The Official Draft Thread

Ryu · Post #161 » by **Ryu** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:49 am

1. Anthony Davis
2. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
3. Thomas Robinson
4. Jeremy Lamb
5. Brad Beal
6. Harrison Barnes
7. Austin Rivers
8. Jarred Sullinger
9. Quincy Miller
10. Perry Jones
11. Andre Drummond
12. Arnett Moultrie
13. Tony Wroten
14. John Henson
15. Terrence Ross

thamadkant · Post #162 » by **thamadkant** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:18 am

1. Anthony Davis
2. Michael Kidd Gilchrist
3. Andre Drummond
4. Harrison Barnes
5. Quincy Miller
6. Perry Jones (Just purely because he is the most gifted player offensively, accounting his size, in this draft)
7. Jared Sullinger
8. Thomas Robinson
9. Brad Beal
10. Jeremy Lamb
11. Austin Rivers
12. John Henson
13. Meyers Leonard
14. Arnett Moultrie
15. Terence Ross

Frank Lee · Post #163 » by **Frank Lee** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:54 am

Now list the ones who wont come out....

and then the one or two likely busts.....

thamadkant · Post #164 » by **thamadkant** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:56 am

Perry Jones is 50/50 bust

Drummond has a good chance he will come out this season, if he knows he is top 3, he will come out.... too much money on the table, hearing his interviews tell me he is craving the money.

Sullinger is a 50/50 bust too.... doesnt have the athletics, fundamentally sound but against stronger and more athletic guys he may get exposed.... and whats the chances of having two Kevin Loves in the league 3 years apart from being drafted?....

Thomas Robinson too can be a bust, he is too reliant in his athletics and size.... but Horford turned out okay.... I can see Robinson following Horford's development.... so Horford best case...

the rest will be solid starters.... Immediate "GOOD" borderline star players are, Anthony Davis is almost a shoe in to be a DPOY candidate by his 3rd season barring injuries.... MKG's motor and leadership will translate well in the pros, he is a borderline star by his 3rd season I think and may turn out to be the "harder" "tougher" Iguadala v2.0

Harrison Barnes will be a decent scorer, he at worst, he puts up 16-17ppg and be a starter for many teams...

Quincy Miller was a former No.1 projected player before injuries, they say he is Durant-lite.... has dropped down the rankings due to his knee surgery... but he had it when he was very very young.... He could be a star, too skilled to be a bust.

SunZel · Post #165 » by **SunZel** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:27 am

Meyers Leonard was compared to Robin Lopez.....

All i needed to hear.

Avp115 · Post #166 » by **Avp115** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:35 pm

I think Drummond will definitely come out now that UConn is banned from the 2013 postseason. He also knows he's a lottery pick so there would be no reason for him to risk lowering his stock.

1UPZ wrote:Perry Jones is 50/50 bust

Drummond has a good chance he will come out this season, if he knows he is top 3, he will come out.... too much money on the table, hearing his interviews tell me he is craving the money.

Sullinger is a 50/50 bust too.... doesnt have the athletics, fundamentally sound but against stronger and more athletic guys he may get exposed.... and whats the chances of having two Kevin Loves in the league 3 years apart from being drafted?....

Thomas Robinson too can be a bust, he is too reliant in his athletics and size.... but Horford turned out okay.... I can see Robinson following Horford's development.... so Horford best case...

the rest will be solid starters.... Immediate "GOOD" borderline star players are, Anthony Davis is almost a shoe in to be a DPOY candidate by his 3rd season barring injuries.... MKG's motor and leadership will translate well in the pros, he is a borderline star by his 3rd season I think and may turn out to be the "harder" "tougher" Iguadala v2.0

Harrison Barnes will be a decent scorer, he at worst, he puts up 16-17ppg and be a starter for many teams...

Quincy Miller was a former No.1 projected player before injuries, they say he is Durant-lite.... has dropped down the rankings due to his knee surgery... but he had it when he was very very young.... He could be a star, too skilled to be a bust.

Cutter · Post #167 » by **Cutter** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:54 pm

I think the Suns medical staff and their non-traditional approach to "core strengthening" would be very career friendly for Quincy Miller and his knees. Regardless of who drafts him, it would be great if he would raise a stink (a la rookie Kobe Bryant) and force a trade to the Suns. In the long run it would be the best career decision he could make.

MrMiyagi · Post #168 » by **MrMiyagi** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:10 am

Cutter wrote:I think the Suns medical staff and their non-traditional approach to "core strengthening" would be very career friendly for Quincy Miller and his knees. Regardless of who drafts him, it would be great if he would raise a stink (a la rookie Kobe Bryant) and force a trade to the Suns. In the long run it would be the best career decision he could make.

I think his knee is looking pretty good. I wouldn't be too concerned, but having out medical staff would be a plus.

I think Perry Jones will bust. Drummond has a good chance of being a bust too, unless you have some good vets/coaches surrounding him. They don't seem like self starters to me, like they'll need to be pushed in order to reach those high ceilings.

MKG and Davis are the ones who can become superstars. Both are driven and have a great attitude towards defense. Offensively there is still room to grow, but as is they'll probably get around 15ppg just on their athletic ability and easy fast break buckets.

Guys who'll be solid are Barnes, Sullinger, Lamb, Beal and Rivers. I see these guys being #2 options.

Some interesting guys to me are Moultrie, Miller, and LeBryan Nash. I think Nash can be a better player than he's shown this year. He might stay another season to make it into the lottery next year. I think Miller is better than PJIII and will show it next level. Moultrie is looking pretty good, but one of the knocks on him is defense, especially the lack of blocked shots with his athleticism, size and minutes played.

SunZel · Post #169 » by **SunZel** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:42 am

I like Wroten. Averages 16 pts per games and he is a point guard. Imagine him at the sg position with nash =)

JohnVancouver · Post #170 » by **JohnVancouver** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:35 pm

I have finally come tot he realization that we ought to trade Nash asap. Look for a deal at the ASG

we need to add picks. I just don;t see any way around it.

Now, ask me in 5 minutes if I still think this way ......

SunZel · Post #171 » by **SunZel** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:37 pm

JohnVancouver wrote:I have finally come tot he realization that we ought to trade Nash asap. Look for a deal at the ASG

we need to add picks. I just don;t see any way around it.

Now, ask me in 5 minutes if I still think this way ......

I dont really want to trade Nash but, how about Nash to The jazz for Milsap and a pick.

Jazz can start favors and i think they are in the playoff run so, good for Nash

doubt they take it tho...

BringinDaRuckus · Post #172 » by **BringinDaRuckus** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:53 pm

SunZel wrote:
JohnVancouver wrote:I have finally come tot he realization that we ought to trade Nash asap. Look for a deal at the ASG

we need to add picks. I just don;t see any way around it.

Now, ask me in 5 minutes if I still think this way ......

I dont really want to trade Nash but, how about Nash to The jazz for Milsap and a pick.

Jazz can start favors and i think they are in the playoff run so, good for Nash

doubt they take it tho...

I don't see why they would say no to this offer. The Jazz are really good when they are on the fast break and are absolutely horrible in the half-court and with Devin Harris running point. They have a lot in the front court depth that they can afford to trade one of their bigs.

Ryu · Post #173 » by **Ryu** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:07 pm

I watched first half of Baylor - Texas game last night and my main impression is that Perry Jones simply doesn`t know how to play basketball yet and use his strengths. This kid plays with zero motor. Shame, bearing in mind that he does have premier physics.

Also, Quincy Miller was beyond terrible, 0 points for 22 mins.

Post #174 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:58 pm

Damian Lillard is now the highest ranking pg in the draft. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Suns end up with him, if they don't win a top three pick and if Beal is gone when they pick.

Here is what Ford wrote about him today

"We've profiled Weber State guard Damian Lillard twice this season, once as a sleeper and again when looking at the top point guard prospects in the country. Lillard has been a little hard to get a read on because, frankly, a lot of the top decision-makers just didn't know much about him.

Over the course of the past month, that's changed. A number of NBA GMs and head scouts have now either seen Lillard in person or have done extensive scouting work on Synergy. The result?

The GMs and scouts I spoke with were virtually unanimous that Lillard is a potential lottery pick in this year's draft. Teams always have loved Lillard's scoring ability. It's been the other areas of his game that have given them pause.

Lillard has improved in virtually every aspect of his game. He's now a much more consistent threat from behind the arc (he's shooting 45 percent from 3 this season). His turnovers have decreased despite his high usage rate, and he's proved to be a capable floor general when he isn't carrying the team's scoring load.

He's second to Kentucky's Anthony Davis in PER and is the second-leading scorer in college basketball.

In a draft devoid of elite point guard prospects, more and more teams are talking themselves into Lillard. His closest competition is Washington's Tony Wroten Jr. But Lillard's steadiness, maturity and his jump shot make him a better bet right now. We've had Lillard in the mid- to late-first round most of the year, but after an extensive round of calls this week, we're putting him in the lottery for the first time.

With a great tournament run and great workouts, it's not out of the question that he could work himself even a bit higher. Several potential lottery teams, including the Suns, Hornets and Jazz, will be in the market for a point guard this year. All three teams like him. It's hard to see him slipping by all three -- especially when you consider that the Hornets and Jazz have multiple first-round picks."

jcsunsfan · Post #175 » by **jcsunsfan** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:32 pm

Ryu wrote:I watched first half of Baylor - Texas game last night and my main impression is that Perry Jones simply doesn`t know how to play basketball yet and use his strengths. This kid plays with zero motor. Shame, bearing in mind that he does have premier physics.

Also, Quincy Miller was beyond terrible, 0 points for 22 mins.

Sounds like Earl Clark

thamadkant · Post #176 » by **thamadkant** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:37 pm

JohnVancouver wrote:I have finally come tot he realization that we ought to trade Nash asap. Look for a deal at the ASG

we need to add picks. I just don;t see any way around it.

Now, ask me in 5 minutes if I still think this way ......

They really do.

9th or 10th spot is most likely best case for this suns team.
They will most likely miss out on the better prospects.

Also Nash value before trade deadline will peak and get worse next season. Suns extending 10 million a year lowers his appeal amongst the contending teams with no cap and not willing to trade key pieces.

Post #177 » by **ATTL** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:49 pm

SunZel wrote:
JohnVancouver wrote:I have finally come tot he realization that we ought to trade Nash asap. Look for a deal at the ASG

we need to add picks. I just don;t see any way around it.

Now, ask me in 5 minutes if I still think this way ......

I dont really want to trade Nash but, how about Nash to The jazz for Milsap and a pick.

Jazz can start favors and i think they are in the playoff run so, good for Nash

doubt they take it tho...

Make it a three way sending Millsap to a team with cap space for picks. That might be best case scenario for the Suns.

JohnVancouver · Post #178 » by **JohnVancouver** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:54 am

I'd go further - Lopez, Nash and Warrick for Milsap, Harris and Burks. Harris only has one year left after this season. If he sucks, buy him out. Or he can ride pine behind the excellent PG we draft with Utah's pick.

Brown, Telfair will be gone - but I really do like Price.Depend son roster and what room there is

One thing that has nto been mentioned, that i recall, in all this talk of draft picks and tanking and rebuilding - the teams we are pointing to now as having been successful in this all accumulated multiple picks each year, including second rounders. Portland, Minny, Seattle/OKC - all of them had 3-5 picks at times in the last 5-6 drafts.

We need a Presti or the PTL guy - Kevin ????

Ryu · Post #179 » by **Ryu** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:35 pm

Watching Kentucky - Miss St, I am really impressed with this Moultrie kid, he`ll be legit starter at pf in the NBA.

It would be great if we could trade Brooks to Lakers for both of their 1. round picks. We can than pick Lillard and Moultrie and with our own lottery pick (sg or sf) we would have 3 positions set for the future.

JohnVancouver · Post #180 » by **JohnVancouver** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:34 pm

Ryu wrote:Watching Kentucky - Miss St, I am really impressed with this Moultrie kid, he`ll be legit starter at pf in the NBA.

It would be great if we could trade Brooks to Lakers for both of their 1. round picks. We can than pick Lillard and Moultrie and with our own lottery pick (sg or sf) we would have 3 positions set for the future.

I approve this idea

we will likely be what, anywhere from 7-12, plus 19 and 22.
Ask for Caracter, too.

somewhere in 8-12 would be Sullinger, Beal, MKG, Moultrie
19 and 22 would be guys like Wroten, Teague, Lillard

That's a nice haul