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Re: The Amazingly Sucky Andray Blatche Thread 

Post#281 » by nate33 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:07 pm

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nate33 wrote:I actually think he can help us if he is utilized solely as our backup center. He's better than Seraphin or an out-of-position Booker at that spot. Just keep a quick hook ready to discipline the sense of entitlement out of him. Bench every time he makes a selfish or lazy play.


If Blatche didn't make selfish or lazy plays then he wouldn't be Blatche, he would be someone else. You might as well ask a fish to stop swimming.

Blatche's idea of help D is to stand around and watch while someone gets an uncontested dunk. That isn't what i want at center, the last line of defense.

Seraphin's idea is to foul somebody. That's not really much more effective. At least Blatche can space the floor at the other end.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not going to sit here and say that Blatche is a good player or anything. I just think there's now a way to utilize some of the skills he brings, without his negative attitude being a detriment to the team. The team is succeeding without Blatche; that makes it so much easier to discipline Blatche and force Blatche to live up to the new standards of the team.
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Re: The Amazingly Sucky Andray Blatche Thread 

Post#282 » by 7-Day Dray » Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:15 pm

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nate33 wrote:I actually think he can help us if he is utilized solely as our backup center. He's better than Seraphin or an out-of-position Booker at that spot. Just keep a quick hook ready to discipline the sense of entitlement out of him. Bench every time he makes a selfish or lazy play.


If Blatche didn't make selfish or lazy plays then he wouldn't be Blatche, he would be someone else. You might as well ask a fish to stop swimming.

Blatche's idea of help D is to stand around and watch while someone gets an uncontested dunk. That isn't what i want at center, the last line of defense.


Exactly. Playing Blatche at center would make the hoop a lay-up line for the other team.
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Post#283 » by tontoz » Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:17 pm

nate33 wrote:Seraphin's idea is to foul somebody. That's not really much more effective.



Yes it is. A foul is always better than a dunk/layup, especially since a lot of fouls don't get called. At least Seraphin is trying to cut off people driving to the rim.


I just think there's now a way to utilize some of the skills he brings, without his negative attitude being a detriment to the team.



I don't think that is possible. He is what he is. He will continue to be a ball stopper, dribbling between his legs several times before launching a fadeaway. He isn't going to change.

he had an attitude problem when he was getting big minutes. What makes you think he won't have one when his minutes/shots are significantly reduced?

His only value is tank value.
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Re: The Amazingly Sucky Andray Blatche Thread 

Post#284 » by nate33 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:50 pm

tontoz wrote:he had an attitude problem when he was getting big minutes. What makes you think he won't have one when his minutes/shots are significantly reduced?

His only value is tank value.

For a while, Blatche was arguably the best player on the team after Jamison, Butler and Haywood were traded. Even last year, he had reason to believe he was the best big man on the roster and the most capable offensive player. This impression was reinforced by Flip who appeared afraid to put a lineup on the floor that didn't involve Blatche as a primary offensive threat.

With Flip gone and the team succeeding without Blatche, I think Blatche is confronted for the first time with the idea that he is no longer essential to the team's success. That gives Wittman a lot of leverage, leverage that Flip never had. Wittman can credibly threaten to bench him if he doesn't do his job exactly as Wittman tells him. I'd like to see what Wittman can do with him. I'm not convinced that Blatche isn't salvageable. I've seen Blatche play good defense and hit the boards hard for short periods of time in the past. If Wittman pushes the right buttons, Blatche is capable of doing it again.

Don't get me wrong. Any playing time for Blatche must come after Blatche has first demonstrated some work ethic and dedication in his "rehab" from his "injury". If Blatche is still an out of shape piece of dough, then he shouldn't even be allowed near the bench.
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Re: The Amazingly Sucky Andray Blatche Thread 

Post#285 » by tontoz » Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:55 pm

I'm not convinced that Blatche isn't salvageable.



We'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't think a leopard can change it's spots, especially in his 7th season.
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Post#286 » by Nivek » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:26 pm

There's nothing wrong with Blatche that can't be fixed by him losing weight, getting stronger, changing his mental approach to the game, changing his decision-making, fixing his diet (including cutting way back on the drinking), getting proper rest, and giving full effort. Nothing major.
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Post#287 » by Ruzious » Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:36 pm

When Mullens looked like an all-star against Blatche, that pretty much convinced me that Blatche at center is literally a non-starter.
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Post#288 » by Knighthonor » Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:12 am

I would like to know,, but what is wrong with Blatche, in your opinion? He seem pretty good. Not sure I understand the hate
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Re: The Amazingly Sucky Andray Blatche Thread 

Post#289 » by queridiculo » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:14 am

Way to put in some work... How about taking a gander in this very thread your post ended up in?

There's plenty of wrong with him, and around these parts he might as well be he-who-must-not-be-named.
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Post#290 » by Marlo Stanfield » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:46 pm

When is Blatche due back?
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Post#291 » by Dat2U » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:11 am

Nivek wrote:There's nothing wrong with Blatche that can't be fixed by him losing weight, getting stronger, changing his mental approach to the game, changing his decision-making, fixing his diet (including cutting way back on the drinking), getting proper rest, and giving full effort. Nothing major.


Nothing major that involves both a brain & heart transplant. :wink:
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Post#292 » by FAH1223 » Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:42 am

Nivek wrote:There's nothing wrong with Blatche that can't be fixed by him losing weight, getting stronger, changing his mental approach to the game, changing his decision-making, fixing his diet (including cutting way back on the drinking), getting proper rest, and giving full effort. Nothing major.

:lol: :lol: :lol: nothing major for most of us
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Re: The Amazingly Sucky Andray Blatche Thread 

Post#293 » by Marlo Stanfield » Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:24 pm

Is he due back anytime soon?
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Post#294 » by GhostsOfGil » Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:26 pm

Marlo Stanfield wrote:Is he due back anytime soon?

Unfortunately yes
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Post#295 » by hands11 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:58 am

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... _blog.html

Well, if he is ever going to get it, this is the type of thing that would do it.

He is now at the point that no one wants him and all for the same reason. He has to be waking up to the fake that he is no longer a starter on a bad team so it isnt likely he is going to be one anywhere. That has got to be a cold shower realizing that. I'm sure he can stick around as a back up though so maybe he wont get it.

I guess he gets paid either way. Hey. Not a bad deal if you can get it. Get fired and still make millions.

So now what Dray? You going to flame out or you going to finally get serious ? It's all up to you. You had your "fun", so now get focused and get down to business.
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Re: The Amazingly Sucky Andray Blatche Thread 

Post#296 » by queridiculo » Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:43 am

If the Blatche contract extension isn't the nail in EGs coffin then I don't know what else could possibly qualify.
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Post#297 » by nate33 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:46 pm

hermitkid wrote:If the Blatche contract extension isn't the nail in EGs coffin then I don't know what else could possibly qualify.

Blatche's extension was praised by nearly everyone on this board other than Nivek. And I don't think Nivek was all that critical, just a bit skeptical.

The nail in EG's coffin is that this team is still absolute dreck. We only have two players that a good team would happily add to their existing rotation: Wall and Booker. And even those two guys have caveats. Wall doesn't count as a positive for EG because he was a no-brainer pick at the top of the draft. And Booker would only be a backup for a good team.
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Post#298 » by Ruzious » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:52 pm

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hermitkid wrote:If the Blatche contract extension isn't the nail in EGs coffin then I don't know what else could possibly qualify.

Blatche's extension was praised by nearly everyone on this board other than Nivek. And I don't think Nivek was all that critical, just a bit skeptical.

The nail in EG's coffin is that this team is still absolute dreck. We only have two players that a good team would happily add to their existing rotation: Wall and Booker. And even those two guys have caveats. Wall doesn't count as a positive for EG because he was a no-brainer pick at the top of the draft. And Booker would only be a backup for a good team.

We didn't get paid to be right about the Blatche extension - he did.

Btw, Rico - who's been EG's biggest fan - was critical of the extension. I wasn't crazy about it, myself.
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Re: The Amazingly Sucky Andray Blatche Thread 

Post#299 » by nate33 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:04 pm

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hermitkid wrote:If the Blatche contract extension isn't the nail in EGs coffin then I don't know what else could possibly qualify.

Blatche's extension was praised by nearly everyone on this board other than Nivek. And I don't think Nivek was all that critical, just a bit skeptical.

The nail in EG's coffin is that this team is still absolute dreck. We only have two players that a good team would happily add to their existing rotation: Wall and Booker. And even those two guys have caveats. Wall doesn't count as a positive for EG because he was a no-brainer pick at the top of the draft. And Booker would only be a backup for a good team.

We didn't get paid to be right about the Blatche extension - he did.

Btw, Rico - who's been EG's biggest fan - was critical of the extension. I wasn't crazy about it, myself.

Ruzious wrote:Either way, it's a very good move by the Wiz and gives Dray financial security - a win/win. They avoid the potential huge problem in less than 2 years of having to try to sign both Dray and Jav at the same time.

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