Your take on Corbin so far (mid-season report)

[Jazzfan Bayamon]

At the begining of the season, I was a big doubter. Comming off of Jerry Sloan, and his all out effort teams, and the crap that was late last season, I was really doubting the HC ability we now had, not the talent. As it turned out, in January, this team started playing like a team, we had good wins and things looked good. I applauded Corbin for what looked to be a remarkable job integrating all of our guys into games and them producing. Still, some guys were still playing sub par but it was put on not being fully acclimated, etc. However, some tough home losses to LA, Dallas and Toronto where he choked those games away changed everything as it seems now. Those games IMO, broke the teams spirit and confidence in Ty, or just his confidence in himself as a HC. From there on he has looked tentative, unsure and has put up more excuses than you'd imagine for our recent fade off.

So now, as I see it, and the more this season plays out, the more I believe most of our struggles are more on Corbin than anything else.

Since our "slump" began, Corbin really hasn't tried ANYTHING new. The biggest (gasp) thing he did was play Burks more minutes (which he had already done and had proven succesful). But, what else has he done? You know, for all of Jerry Sloan's critiques of him being inflexible and such, he sure did tinker lineups and rotations when thing weren't really working out (and when he had options to do so). But Corbin looks afraid. He looks afraid to give Favors more responsability. He looks afraid to use different combinations on different settings. He now even looks afraid to make simple subs (like last night).

And all of that while not getting the most out of our players. Harris is a talented played, a former AllStar that is still young. What has Corbin gotten out of him? Millsap's numbers are down, Haywards shooting is down, Favors really isn't anywhere near where people thought him to be. Is there a single player that you can say we have capitalized on their ability this season? If anything, I feel this team has underachieved with the amount of talent we have available. And that's not mentioning the games we've come out like we don't give a **** like NY and NO.

So, as of today, I really can't see anything positive from Corbin as HC. What good he did in January has completly vanished and now I feel he is hurting our team's development and current performance of our player.

I understand that the players ultimately are the ones who play, but when you see players playing out of their strengths, you wonder. Hayward's strength is at 2 guard. He's been our starting SF all year. Harris is better as a slasher driving to the basket. The offensive scheme of our SL consists almost 80 % in posting up ISOS. How the hell can Harris drive and slash to the basket when OUR GUYS are there already asking for the ball?? Millsap has shown he can't hold up at the high level consistantly. Even Corbin said he was banged up as a reason for his dip in play. Yet he still playes Millsap 35 + minutes, even when he's strugglin. Favors, Howard, Burks... The list goes on and on. I, right now, don't trust this coaching staff to know how to get the most out of our players. It doesn't metter who is on the team.

BTW, If Jerry Sloan was coaching this group, how do you think things would be?? Just remember 03-04.

[babyjax13]

I think it's just as important for us to develop Corbin as it is to develop our young players. He has proven to at least be an average coach in his first half season, so I'm not going to complain too much. Yes, I wish Favors were starting instead of Millsap, and yes, I wish that Josh Howard never saw the court - but I can't say that there is a whole lot that he is doing wrong. I think he'll learn to adjust the lineups more...

I like that we are starting to see Burks running Ronnie Brewer's patented baseline play that worked so well when Boozer was here. I think that Jefferson will recognize when to pass it more, it's a new wrinkle in the offense, and that will help us out a bit. Remember that we are halfway through the season (already) and still in the playoff hunt, this team can do something still.....

Also, I think if Sloan were coaching Favors, Kanter and Burks would be getting more minutes. Remember how much he used Brewer/Millsap, I think Enes and Alec fill those same roles. He's also the guy who began to start Hayward....he gave rookies (in his later years) a lot longer leash than people gave him credit for. I don't know if that would result in more wins, but I think it would.

[Jazzfan12]

He's fine as a game to game coach.

He seems like a pretty terrible player development coach which is sort of an issue for a team that's about to have six lottery picks on the roster.

[Spottieottie]

He gets a solid D from me. And I was on board at first.

The Jazz's frail mentality, complete inability on the road and constant numbskullery at finishing games are all a reflection of the coach IMO.

[HolyToledo]

B+

He has done a good job trying developing players while getting veterans their minutes. He has got the Jazz to play some defense. Last year the Jazz, even under Sloan, was the one of the worst if not the worst defensive team. He is a poor game manager and user of timeouts. Unfortunately, he picked that up from Sloan as well.

Generally, I am happy with his job. KOC can make his job easier by trading away some of the dead weight veterans in Millsap, Jefferson, Harris, Bell, and Miles.

[Jazzfan12]

The Jazz have gone from 23rd in defense last year to 24th this year.

[UtahJazzV4FTW]

C-

I've gone off in him in other threads. Thing that bugs me the most is the 15 minutes on the bench for Hayward and Harris who then come back in with only 3 minutes left in the half.

[blackham9258]

We were supposed to be the bottom 2 or 3 teams in the league. Why many including Locke believed that that could be the case is beyond me. But, to be in position to contend for a playoff spot is impressive.

I like how the guys are playing, however giving the upcoming (road heavy) schedule I hope we move Jefferson or Millsap or Harris for picks and expirings to allow the youngs to get more playing time.

If Cleveland would give up their pick #1 protected for a Jefferson/Jamison swap that would be fine with me.

[StocktonShorts]

C seems about right. Seems like a very poor game manager and it doesn't seem like he's getting any help from his assistants in this regard. It would really be nice if the Jazz had a veteran presence on the bench to help him.

He does a very poor job of recognizing momentum shifts in games and doing anything to combat it.

He does a poor job of recognizing mismatches on the court and directing the team to take advantage of them.

He's awful at managing minutes. Whatever your philosophy is on playing young guys vs. vets, Corbin's riding Jefferson and Millsap for 38 minutes a night in an uber-compressed season.

[Soul Patch]

I really don't like no sub third quarters. Other than that I'm on the Corbin bandwagon. This is his first season and he got **** with the shortened training camp. And he doesn't really have grizzled assistants he can turn to.

[Jazzfan Bayamon]

I don't like the fact that he has yet to figure out this team. The reason we have sucked closing out games is because he's the one that's tentative and unsure of himself. For example, yesterday, down by 2, he calls a time out. The "supposed" play he drew up ended up being an iso by Al 18 ft from the basket. Really??

He really hasn't put our guys in spots where they can maximize their abilitites to the benefit of the team, or held them accountable if they are put in those spots but don't deliver.

Last night, we're up 16 playing good basketball with our 2nd unit. They make two 3 pt plays and cut it down to 10, timeout. Right after the timeout, with about 9 minutes left, he brings in Al and Millsap back in. It's like he's afraid. I mean, Al and Paul played a LOT of minutes monday, the barely got any rest and because the other team scored 2 baskets, he decides to pull out Favors (who was having a good game) and Kanter to go to the overworked and overtaxed undersized big men with 9 minytes to go. What happens next is they make their run and we don't have ANYONE on our bench to bring in because he already did. It was such a bad decision and it cost us the game IMO.

Al and Paul have held a lot of responsability and taken a lot of hate down here, but the fact is, it's not their fault our stupid ass coach keeps putting them in that position to begin with, especially having all the alternatives and options Corbin has on this team.

Man, do I miss Jerry Sloan.

[The59Sound]

I'm not in "Ty will never amount to anything" mode, but there's certainly some problems.

One is that he doesn't ride guys that are playing well. For instance, during the stretch this season when Devin was really struggling and Earl was playing great, Ty would always pull Earl in the fourth quarter, no matter how fresh he was. This is compounded by the fact that he would wait to make the substitution until there were only 3 or 4 minutes left. How is Devin supposed to come in and have his legs underneath him at that point?

[Ming Kong!]

I wont lie, for stretches I'm a fan of him, but then there moments where I can't stand him. Sloan to me was a far superior coach in everything. Though I never liked the rotations and subsitition patterns for either. Seems like neighter call a timeout at the right time nor make timely substitutions to remove scrubs. Hate how they remove a hot rookie or sophmore in place for a vet to follow substitution patterns they have in place. I would really some of the reasoning explained to me. I know on the whole these guys are 100 times the coach I could ever be, but some of these things just baffle me.

I would give Corbin a B-/C+. I am not overly excited about him, but I think he's done fairly well in short stint with the situations he's been presented. I would probably give him another year before deciding to shake it up. Do you guys think Stockton would ever be inclined to coach? I would love to see him go for it.

[jazzgasm]

C-

[BarneyGumble]

Ty sucks.