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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#981 » by hands11 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:16 am

closg00 wrote:
Nivek wrote:Rookies with at least 200 minutes. Per minute production using my PER-like stat:

1. Faried
2. Ayon
3. Vucevic
4. Leonard
5. Irving
6. Rubio
7. Lavoy Allen, PHI
8. Josh Harrellson, NYK
9. Tobias Harris, MIL
10. Enes Kanter, UTA


Vucevic is another name that was kicked-around pre-draft for our 6th pick.


Yeep.

I really liked this last draft class and really wanted us to trade down and get an extra pick. Center help would have been really nice. As we are seeing more and more with this team, they have one starter right now and center has been an issue with this team since Haywood left.

I posted a lot of this kid after seeing this video. I liked how the kid worked and how he had the whole diet worked out. Someone who puts in that much work and has all those details worked out is bound to make it. The kid seems focused and mature.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcgpIuD_JyQ[/youtube]
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#982 » by verbal8 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:56 pm

Do rumors of a Howard to Lakers deal mean he gets dealt soon?

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... kers_Trade

Not necessarily the deal as rumored, but the rumor might indicate that something is going on. Or we might just be subjected to Howard rumors for the next 4 months.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#983 » by LyricalRico » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:03 pm

Otis Smith intends to "aggressively" pursue a trade for Steve Nash, according to multiple sources.

Nash is in the final season of his contract with the Suns, while Orlando is attempting to make a last ditch effort to improve their roster to keep Dwight Howard.


Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... z1nbQ4M5hx

Interesting, especially since I posted this back on Jan 20 in the trade thread:

LyricalRico wrote:Assuming the C's decide it's over and blow it up, Phoenix moves Nash, and Orlando goes all in for a run with Howard...can we get in on that?

Wizards trade: Blatche and Young
Wizards receive: JRich and Duhon

Suns trade: Nash and Lopez
Suns receive: Nelson and Blatche

Celtics trade: Garnett
Celtics receve: Young, Lopez, Redick, Anderson, Orton

Magic trade: Nelson, Redick, JRich, Anderson, Orton
Magic receive: Garnett and Nash


Maybe it doesn't go down exactly like that, but I definitely saw something there with a Nash/Howard combo. Hey Otis - you're welcome. 8-)
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#984 » by closg00 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:37 pm

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Post#985 » by closg00 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:57 pm

Nets sign Gerald Green, is it a 10-day? Curious move considering they already have Brooks. I guess they are looking past DS or Morrow.
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Post#986 » by hands11 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:10 am

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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#987 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:21 am

closg00 wrote:Nets sign Gerald Green, is it a 10-day? Curious move considering they already have Brooks. I guess they are looking past DS or Morrow.
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1164091


Green is in double figures and has hit a couple threes for the Nets. He's having a better game so far than Brooks.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#988 » by hands11 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:09 am

So Mike Dunleavy only cost $3,750,000

Hey Nick. Take notes and change your game. You are worth no more then 5M, that is what Kyle Korver gets.

Change your shot from that leaning away thing and stop shooting when you are covered. Lean to run around and spot up. Take open shot and take them balanced and mostly from 3 land. Become a pure shooter. Stop dribbling. Stop calling for the ball. And stop holding it. Catch and shot when you are open. And focus on your D. That is your roll in this league. And it you will be coming off the bench. Do this, and you can have a good career and maybe play of a winning team.

Ignore this and you will always play on crap teams, find yourself at the end of the bench or even out of the league in 2-3 years.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#989 » by closg00 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:19 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
closg00 wrote:Nets sign Gerald Green, is it a 10-day? Curious move considering they already have Brooks. I guess they are looking past DS or Morrow.
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1164091


Green is in double figures and has hit a couple threes for the Nets. He's having a better game so far than Brooks.


:o Just read the box score, dude stepped off the street and they played him 18 minutes...nice stats for him tonight. If Green keeps this up they will lock him up obviously.
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Post#990 » by tontoz » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:16 pm

I remember watching Green in the HS McD's game. He can definitely shoot even though he is missing a finger on his shooting hand. He has no handle or court awareness though.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#991 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Mar 1, 2012 8:19 am

Kenneth Faried's line as a starter tonight:

6-6FG, 1-2 FT, 13 points, 10 rebounds, 1 steal, 1 turnover, 2 fouls and ... only 17:23 playing time.

Seven other Denver players played more minutes.

George Karl shouldn't have been the one whose team drafted Faried. :(

It's a shame.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#992 » by closg00 » Thu Mar 1, 2012 1:03 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Kenneth Faried's line as a starter tonight:

6-6FG, 1-2 FT, 13 points, 10 rebounds, 1 steal, 1 turnover, 2 fouls and ... only 17:23 playing time.

Seven other Denver players played more minutes.

George Karl shouldn't have been the one whose team drafted Faried. :(

It's a shame.


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Post#993 » by tontoz » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:15 pm

It must be nice to have a job where you can get paid to be wrong consistently.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#994 » by Rafael122 » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:43 pm

Always confused when you hear Rondo trade rumors. He's the Celtics best player, probably their best trading chip but you trade him and what are you going to get back? Curry? He can't stay on the court, and he's not the type of guy you'd have as a centerpiece.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#995 » by Nivek » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:49 pm

The guys at the Wins Produced blog have up an interesting blog about George Karl's distribution of playing time for his bigs.

In order by minutes:

- Al Harrington
- Nene
- Mozgov
- Koufos
- Andersen
- Faried

In order by production (as measured by WP48) with minutes order following:

- Faried (6)
- Andersen (5)
- Koufos (4)
- Nene (2)
- Harrington (1)
- Mozgov (3)
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Post#996 » by tontoz » Thu Mar 1, 2012 4:07 pm

I think Harrington has been playing out of position most of his career. He is much better at the 3 on both ends but keeps getting stuck at the 4. He struggles to finish inside against 4s and can't defend the position at all. Watching him try to defend in the post is just....ugh.

At the 3 he can frequently overpower guys inside and is actually a decent defender on the perimeter.
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Post#997 » by Nivek » Thu Mar 1, 2012 4:50 pm

Harrington is just not good. He's in his 14th season -- you'd figure by now some coach would have figured out how to use him. But he's never been efficient. He's never been much of a rebounder. He shoots a lot.
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Post#998 » by tontoz » Thu Mar 1, 2012 5:11 pm

His lack of rebounding is one reason why he doesn't belong at the 4. He simply doesn't have the length or hops to handle other 4s. His lateral quickness is respectable though and he is pretty strong relative to other 3s.

Playing for coaches like MDA and Nelson hasn't helped since they love small ball.

With his ability to hit 3s and post up smaller players he seems such a natural fit at the 3. Obviously he wouldn't be a star or anything at any position but his TS% hasn't been that bad. He has been around 54% in several seasons including this one.

I hated him at the 4 on the Hawks. He made Blatche look like a defensive stopper. But when he played the 3 guys actually had a hard time beating him off the dribble. he said himself that he preferred playing the 3.

I wouldn't want him here even though he would be a huge upgrade.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#999 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Mar 1, 2012 5:14 pm

tontoz wrote:It must be nice to have a job where you can get paid to be wrong consistently.



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Post#1000 » by LyricalRico » Thu Mar 1, 2012 6:30 pm

Rafael122 wrote:Always confused when you hear Rondo trade rumors. He's the Celtics best player, probably their best trading chip but you trade him and what are you going to get back? Curry? He can't stay on the court, and he's not the type of guy you'd have as a centerpiece.


What's more curious is that they are already set up to have room to sign a big money free agent in the offseason (or trade for a disgruntled yet productive vet). Adding another star to Pierce/Rondo seems like the natural progression, but apparently that's not how they feel. Man, that organization must really hate the guy. LOL

I'd be interested to see if BOS can get in on the Nash sweepstakes (if he does end up wanting out). Rondo for Nash would seem to help both teams. PHX gets a young PG, and BOS gets to take one more run with the old guys before having almost enough cap room to sign 2 max FAs in the offseason.

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