(Building Around Wall) no pun, but what need to be done?

[BanndNDC]

Saying that the Wizards need shooting and rebounding is technically accurate, but kinda misses the point at the same time. They need PLAYERS. They don't need specialists -- adding a Reggie Evans and a Kyle Korver would add rebounding and shooting, but wouldn't be an advancement of the rebuild. They need an top-shelf, all-around, do-everything TALENT at a position other than PG.

who said anything about one skill specialists? Kevins Durant and Love would certainly fit the bill.

The Wizards need NBA level players at pretty much every position that's a given. I've never been under any delusion that the squad has been lacking in that regard since the blowup. Shooting and rebounding doesn't automatically mean Reggie Evans and Kyle Korver when it could just as easily mean Kevins Love and Durant. NBA top talent is obviously needed. The issue is what skills can maximize the lackluster extra pieces (Ves, Booker, McGee) and Wall that we have. A stud rebounder would make McGee seem better. A stud shooter would make Wall more effective. That being said I would hope you'd agree that the last thing we need is a PF who's a lackluster rebounder or a wing who's a lackluster shooter.

[Dat2U]

NBA top talent is obviously needed. The issue is what skills can maximize the lackluster extra pieces (Ves, Booker, McGee) and Wall that we have. A stud rebounder would make McGee seem better. A stud shooter would make Wall more effective. That being said I would hope you'd agree that the last thing we need is a PF who's a lackluster rebounder or a wing who's a lackluster shooter.

We need everything. We need the best talent possible irregardless of skillset or even position. Is it ideal to draft a perimeter player who doesn't have ideal range from deep? I really don't think it matters. We need toughness as much as we outside shooting. We need high basketball IQ as much as we need rebounding. We guys who will do anything to win and hold others accountable as much as we need talented scorers.

By overly focusing on one particular skill we may be missing out on someone who's more of a complete package.

And right now we can't afford to do that. Wall is only real piece we can legitimately say is a part of our future core. McGee is a huge questionmark and no one else is even worth mentioning at this point. Get talent first, worry about how it fits later when it really matters.

[closg00]

While we need better talent all-round, one position that should be scrutinized a bit more is the back-up PG position. With Wall's offensive deficiencies, Wall needs a Yang to his Ying. Mack compounds our offensive woes because his offensive out-put is anemic, he essentially is almost never a threat to score. We need ta better back-up PG to balance-out Wall, and potentially be closer for us.

[queridiculo]

Irks me a bit that the Wizards wouldn't jump at the opportunity to add Wilson Chandler to this roster..

Until Leonsis demonstrates that he's serious about building a winner rather than letting the chips fall where they may, I don't see much changing around here.

Seems like Leonsis already wasted a pretty good opportunity with the Caps, let's hope he isn't going to be as apathetic with the Wizards.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

While we need better talent all-round, one position that should be scrutinized a bit more is the back-up PG position. With Wall's offensive deficiencies, Wall needs a Yang to his Ying. Mack compounds our offensive woes because his offensive out-put is anemic, he essentially is almost never a threat to score. We need ta better back-up PG to balance-out Wall, and potentially be closer for us.

+1

Any new backup PG has to have three-point range, hopefully with good athleticism and a scorer's mentality. It would be extremely helpful if the backup plays good defense. There are several PGs in this draft I like and several NBA PGs who will be FAs.

From this draft:
Damian Lillard will likely be gone sometime in the first round. I would love the Wizards to trade Singleton or Vesely just to get another pick to get Lillard.

Scott Machado is the nation's assist leader, and he has worked to improve his 3PT shooting to over 40%. He is also a good defender. He is a player I would love for the Wizards to draft. Here's a complete scouting report on Machado.

http://hoopprospect.com/2012/02/15/scou ... t-machado/

Another prospect no one is talking about, but they should be IMO, is Reggie Hamilton, of Oakland (MI). He is the nation's scoring leader, averaging 25 ppg+. Hamilton also shoots 3PT Fg at nearly 40% and shoots FTs at nearly 90%. He scored 30+ on Arizona and Tennessee. Hamilton plays in the Summit Conference, where NBA prospect Gs Nate Wolters (SD St) and Alex Young (IUPI) also play.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... e-hamilton

Hamiton would be a perfect pick at the end of round two with the Dallas pick the Wizards acquired. Seeing little guys like Isaiah Thomas have success, I feel pretty confident Hamilton would make the Wizards team.

There are other PGs I like, but Lillard, Machado, and Hamilton are IMO great prospects in this draft.

In free agency: Jordan Farmar makes a ton of sense to add to this lineup. Sundiata Gaines, Aaron Brooks, and A J Price are also young, veteran PGs who will be available.

[Ruzious]

-1. Mack's nothing special, but we're talking about a 12 minute a game position - backup PG - and we do have Crawford. We might as well see how Mack does the rest of the season before deciding he's not good enough and spending resources on a position that might be covered adequately.

[tontoz]

-1. Mack's nothing special, but we're talking about a 12 minute a game position - backup PG - and we do have Crawford. We might as well see how Mack does the rest of the season before deciding he's not good enough and spending resources on a position that might be covered adequately.

yeah i don't see why there would be any sense of urgency to get a backup pg. It isn't like the Wizards are pushing to get home court for the playoffs.

[dobrojim]

we need 3-4 starters before we start worrying about backups

Mack is adequate for now

[The Consiglieri]

We really need another thread for this ?

I guess CCJ first post pretty much summaries most of my positions so no real need to retype all of that.

What needs to be done ? Short term ? By trade deadline ? Long term ? These things are interconnected and should be fluid depending on updated information and what specific long term plan you have.

There isnt any one set answer for the long term build. It depends on how the pieces fit together. What I do know is this. Between the SG and SF position you need some pure shooting, maturity/star power, ball handing and ability to score off the drive. This team doesnt have that and until they add it, they will suck.

SG and SF: Nick, Crawford, Mason, Singleton, Lewis

That is not nearly enough. You have one ball handler and two streaky shooters.

I've certainly enjoyed reading it, it's a nice collection of fan/GM ideas. Makes for enjoyable reading and thinking.

[Liverbird]

For me, 2012/13 should be about consolidation as we all (and hopefully management) understand the weaknesses of this team. I also believe we need to surround Wall and the rest of the kids with young but seasoned veterans. In my ideal NBA2Kx scenario and incorporating multiple RealGM ideas into a single off season plan:

- Trade for Batum before the trade deadline this year. Offer Tufiaf's expiring and Singleton. Do they bite? Resign Batum.
- Trade Blatche + NY1 for Okafor.

Draft:
- BPA. I suspect it would be one of MKG, Robinson, or Barnes. For conversations sake let's assume my favorite MKG
- Consolidate the 2nd round draft picks + a lottery protected future 1st for Utah's highest pick. Should be in the lottery. Draft The best SG available, perhaps Bradley Beal.

2013 Roster:

PG: Wall/Crawford/Mack
SG: Batum/Beal/Crawford
SF: MKG/Batum/Vesely
PF: Okafor/Booker/Vesely
C: McGee/Okafor/Seraphin

Flame away.

[ty123]

I don't get the infatuation with Mcgee. Sure he's athletic but he's a bigger version of Gerald Green. He doesn't understand how to play the game properly. He'll never understand on this team anyway. Ask yourself this, would Mcgee start on a team like the Spurs, Bulls or Celtics?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I could definitely see him starting next to Tim Duncan. He's way taller than Blair and is a good shot blocker, which SA needs in addition to Duncan to get out of the West. I think they would rather have Javale than Tiago Splitter.

I could also see McGee starting next to KG. Javale would be automatic on offense with a PG like Rondo and having the big three all commanding defensive attention. The Celtics would leap with joy if they had McGee instead of Jermaine O'Neal, IMO.

McGee would not start on Chicago. Noah is flat better and a many times a smarter player than Javale.

ty123, I have this pipe dream of putting Pau Gasol at PF next to McGee. Javale makes a ton of mistakes but he catches everything thrown near the rim and he blocks whatever he can. I think a PF like Pau would make Javale a whole lot less of a liability defensively and also much more efficient offensively. Gasol is a terrific passer, unlike any big Javale has ever played with. Gasol also is efficient.

There are many teams that would love McGee. Dallas has Haywood starting at C, but I bet they would prefer McGee to Brendan at this point. McGee isn't too much different from Serge Ibaka. Javale just doesn't have teammates like Durant and Harden, and Wall isn't Westbrook yet.

I only want them to trade McGee instead of losing him for nothing as a free agent. The Wizards are foolish to think nobody is going to offer Javale what DeAndre Jordan got. I think the Wizards are foolish to keep pointing out McGee's mistakes, too. Either he's got a mental condition that might be treatable or he's got a severe attention deficit, or he just lacks intelligence. Work with it and around it. Do so knowing the guy still has the highest PER, the highest WS/48, the highest rebound rate, the highest block potential, and a developing offensive game.

The smartest thing they could have done IMO is offer Javale a contract at 8Mil a year when he might have taken it. McGee will get that somewhere. If he had balked and wanted more, at least the Wizards made a gesture and let McGee know they value his contribution.

In order to get Hibbert, the Wizards will have to bid higher.

[Silvie Lysandra]

Why the hell should the Wizards work around an inefficient scorer and awful defender who makes 2 to 4 horrible plays each and every game? Because he blocks a lot of shots?

Javale McGee is the Wizards' version of Jason Campbell. No matter how obvious it becomes that he can't play at a high level, you will have lots of people making excuses for him because he wasn't bad enough to be run out of the NBA.

[ty123]

I could definitely see him starting next to Tim Duncan. He's way taller than Blair and is a good shot blocker, which SA needs in addition to Duncan to get out of the West. I think they would rather have Javale than Tiago Splitter.

I could also see McGee starting next to KG. Javale would be automatic on offense with a PG like Rondo and having the big three all commanding defensive attention. The Celtics would leap with joy if they had McGee instead of Jermaine O'Neal, IMO.

McGee would not start on Chicago. Noah is flat better and a many times a smarter player than Javale.

ty123, I have this pipe dream of putting Pau Gasol at PF next to McGee. Javale makes a ton of mistakes but he catches everything thrown near the rim and he blocks whatever he can. I think a PF like Pau would make Javale a whole lot less of a liability defensively and also much more efficient offensively. Gasol is a terrific passer, unlike any big Javale has ever played with. Gasol also is efficient.

There are many teams that would love McGee. Dallas has Haywood starting at C, but I bet they would prefer McGee to Brendan at this point. McGee isn't too much different from Serge Ibaka. Javale just doesn't have teammates like Durant and Harden, and Wall isn't Westbrook yet.

I only want them to trade McGee instead of losing him for nothing as a free agent. The Wizards are foolish to think nobody is going to offer Javale what DeAndre Jordan got. I think the Wizards are foolish to keep pointing out McGee's mistakes, too. Either he's got a mental condition that might be treatable or he's got a severe attention deficit, or he just lacks intelligence. Work with it and around it. Do so knowing the guy still has the highest PER, the highest WS/48, the highest rebound rate, the highest block potential, and a developing offensive game.

The smartest thing they could have done IMO is offer Javale a contract at 8Mil a year when he might have taken it. McGee will get that somewhere. If he had balked and wanted more, at least the Wizards made a gesture and let McGee know they value his contribution.

In order to get Hibbert, the Wizards will have to bid higher.

I disagree with your opinion.

I'm pretty sure Mcgee wouldn't start over Blair & Duncan nor KG & JO. It's not because of talent, it's because Doc Rivers and coach Pop aren't stupid.

Mcgee isn't just going to turn it around and develop good basketball IQ. Defense is all about basketball IQ, you can block as many shots as you want but if you have poor defensive awareness you'll be a piss poor defender.

Sure he blocks a lot of shots but how many offensive rebounds does he give up?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

It helps if you read what I said. If you're going to misquote or not really read it, I won't bother to comment.

[ty123]

It helps if you read what I said. If you're going to misquote or not really read it, I won't bother to comment.

I don't think Mcgee is a hot commodity in the league and teams are going to lowball for him. No team is going to give him Deandre Jordan type money. Primarily because 1) He's a knucklehead 2)he's dumb as rocks.

You trade him for whatever you can get as long as its not negative value.

[Zonkerbl]

Wait for him to get an offer, match it if it's not too high, let him walk otherwise.

Free agent market is set up so that the incumbent team has the advantage.

Our problem is we're so used to bumping up against the luxury cap we've forgotten that we're in a completely different situation now. When you're under the cap, you lose NOTHING by letting a free agent walk. NOTHING!! It is a win win situation -- you either match the guy, or let him walk and sign someone else for the money you were willing to spend on him. Pure and simple. It's not like Arenas where we absolutely had to sign him or he would walk and we couldn't replace him. We're in a completely different situation now.

[Severn Hoos]

It helps if you read what I said. If you're going to misquote or not really read it, I won't bother to comment.

I don't think Mcgee is a hot commodity in the league and teams are going to lowball for him. No team is going to give him Deandre Jordan type money. Primarily because 1) He's a knucklehead 2)he's dumb as rocks.

You trade him for whatever you can get as long as its not negative value.

I'm confused - no one is going to give him Deandre Jordan money ($10M). So, what will it be? $8M? $7M? Are you saying you'd walk away from a $7M price tag for a 24-year old 7-footer who has a PER of almost 20, is top 10 in the league in Blocks and FG%, and is more durable than just about any other C in the game?

Look, I get it that he's incredibly frustrating, mostly because of what he could - no, should - be capable of providing. And I would probably let him walk if he gets an offer north of $10M. But if he could be had for, say, 4 years & $30M? Yes, I definitely keep him. And after jettisoning Blatche & Young, plus getting a new coach who will implement solid system-oriented basketball, I see what he can do in better circumstances. I'd even be OK with the 1-year tender. At least that would let us see him in an entirely new situation before making a longer-term commitment.

If they can make a good deal right now, I'd listen to offers, but I doubt any are coming in. Otherwise, keep him and see what the summer brings.

[closg00]

we need 3-4 starters before we start worrying about backups

Mack is adequate for now

We can't walk and chew-gum at the same time? Everything is up for evaluation including Mack, he does not have a multi-year contract.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Thank you, Sev.

I said they should have offered him around 8Mil per, just in good faith. That would have made sense.