Pacers Ready to Take On Salaries - Bird

Moooose · Post #1 » by **Moooose** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:56 am

http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/nba/news?slug=ycn-11008220&active_dimension=carousel_fantasy_nba_top_headlines&ysp_frm_woah=1

I've seen this the other day at the wiretap too and i'm just surprised it isn't being discussed in our forum.
Couple of names mentioned in the article: Rashard Lewis and Antawn Jamison.

Post #2 » by **Miller4ever** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:57 am

We're looking for scoring bigs to come off the bench, I think.

Indy2thaWindy · Post #3 » by **Indy2thaWindy** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:00 am

Wall and Lewis for Granger, Collison, and a 1st.

I'm so excited!

We just need to fool the Wizards into accepting.

Indy2thaWindy · Post #4 » by **Indy2thaWindy** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:06 am

No offense but his source is a RealGM Wiretap, but the thing that makes this hard to believe is that he calls Collison a "solid starter." :lol:

So is Solo Jones.

Moooose · Post #5 » by **Moooose** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:49 am

Indy2thaWindy wrote:No offense but his source is a RealGM Wiretap, but the thing that makes this hard to believe is that he calls Collison a "solid starter." So is Solo Jones.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/219187/Pacers_Willing_To_Take_On_More_Salary_Before_Trade_Deadline

Here is a more believable one with Larry Bird himself. Collison would be too good to come off the bench IMO, so in that case i believe he's a starter, a little more experience and he could be a solid starter.

Wizop · Post #6 » by **Wizop** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:55 pm

Here's the link to the full story.

http://www.nba.com/pacers/caught_web_pa ... 02_23.html

I like that he's saying we might pick up a piece but not make a trade. the only deal I'd want to see is one that makes us better this year. I don't expect to be offered any deals that would make me want to give up any of the guys that are actually playing. someone could surprise me and make us a deal that we can't refuse that would involve Dahntay or Psycho, but I don't think I'd want to give up even Lou unless we were getting someone that would take all his PT. that leaves Pendergraph and the Euros as about the only throw ins. the good news is that Larry seems to be saying there has already been talk about deals where the other team's benefit is salary or tax saving.

Post #7 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:46 pm

Looks like Larry is talking about being involved in a trade, but in not giving up someone in that trade (i.e., absorbing a contract and being the 3rd party to a trade).

Starkiller · Post #8 » by **Starkiller** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:37 pm

There's no way it would actually happen, but I'd give up nearly the farm to get Kyrie Irving from Cleveland. DC, West, Tyler and both picks this year for Kyrie lol.

laydo · Post #9 » by **laydo** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:55 am

The Pacers could just bring the Mayo trade back again.

2013 1st round pick, the right to swap 2012 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick(or Lance Stephenson) for O.J. Mayo.

Memphis is now overing the luxury tax level, and they will pay twice more to match any Mayo's offer this summer. Trading picks for them will help their cap under the level. Plus, Sam Young and Pondexter could get more playing time. Young was really efficient last season.

basketballwacko2 · Post #10 » by **basketballwacko2** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:45 am

Moooose wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/nba/news?slug=ycn-11008220&active_dimension=carousel_fantasy_nba_top_headlines&ysp_frm_woah=1

I've seen this the other day at the wiretap too and i'm just surprised it isn't being discussed in our forum.
Couple of names mentioned in the article: Rashard Lewis and Antawn Jamison.

There is no way in hale that the Pacers take on Rashard Lewis' ghost and pay him money. Jamison is a pretty good player still but I hear the Cavs fans saying their team will not dump salary. I would bet that there are 3 or 4 teams wanting to dump salary thats the Lakers, Celts, Spurs, and Mavs and maybe the Griz. Look at each one of them.

Boston if they believe the season is shot they might trade Rondo for Collison, Hansbrough and #1 pick, they'd save about $6 million in Luxury tax and get some youth. I gurantee you they want to dump JO which has been discussed a bit. I don't really want JO unless they are paying us to take him.

Lakers, have nothing we'd be interested in they contracts are all 2-3 yrs and players they'd move stink.

Mavs, I'm betting they like to move Lamar Odom because he's be in full pouty brat mode since being trade from lala land, :brokenheart:

I'm betting he won't want to be in Indiana either.

The Spurs would love to trade Richard Jefferson.

And the Grizz need to cut about $1 million to get under the tax leve and not have to pay plus get the rebate. I'm bettin they are shopping OJ Mayo.

Post #11 » by **Miller4ever** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:57 am

Dat OJ Mayo. Third time's the charm, right?

Wizop · Post #12 » by **Wizop** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:05 pm

if Mayo would be such a great help, why is he expendable in Memphis?

granger05 · Post #13 » by **granger05** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:01 pm

They are the team that traded Pau Gasol for money reasons.

Boneman2 · Post #14 » by **Boneman2** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:25 pm

Larry Bird never actually offered a 1st for Mayo, his trade featured the Pacers getting back a 1st from NO's. So essentially it was a pick swap. I believe Bird offered Rush/ McBob/ 1st (15) for Mayo/1st (19)/ Salary from NO's.

Memphis will not match any offer for him. Basically if the Pacers want OJ, they can soon get him for the capspace required to sign him. In turn, you can say goodbye to George Hill.

There is a reason why Bird stated he would take on salary. A trade like this does not fit that description. The only asset I'd give is capspace, of which everbody is underestimating.

Last year Cleveland hustled hard using this technique.

basketballwacko2 · Post #15 » by **basketballwacko2** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:37 pm

Wizop wrote:if Mayo would be such a great help, why is he expendable in Memphis?

With their salary structure they will not be able to resign Mayo unless they are paying a load of Luxury tax next season. With Randolph, Gay, Gasol and Conley under long term deals they have no room to pay him the money he's gonna want so I'm thinking they trade him for what they can and call it a day. Or they might attempt to move Conley, I'd do Collison and Pendergraph plus a #1 for Mike Conley.

basketballwacko2 · Post #16 » by **basketballwacko2** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:55 pm

I'd still be looking at a Kaman trade we can get him for cheap and he fills a need. Question is who wants to dump a player that has more than one year left on his contract so that they can get after a big free agent next season. If Howard is not traded and Opts out of his deal in Orlando that would be 4-5 teams. Lakers, Boston who will have some space with Garnett and Allen expiring, New Jersey, New York, and who else is in the running I'm drawing a blank.

Still I think Dallas wants to dump Odom but would he flip if traded here?

Wizop · Post #17 » by **Wizop** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:07 pm

I like Kaman better than Odom. we need another 5 with Foster being so iffy.

Post #18 » by **Miller4ever** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:48 pm

It's really hard to say how Odom does outside of the Lakers at 32 year old. Kaman, though, is inefficient and not really the kind of big I'd want. I'd want the athletic-type rebounding and defense big. Tyson Chandler made that a hot commodity, but I do think that's what we need. West is an offensive player who uses moves and savvy, Hibbert is a fundamental big, and Hansbrough is frenetic, but can't finish inside. So Dalembert is someone I'd look at. I also like what I've seen from Pendergraph, but I'm not sure how he'd do with extended minutes. he seems really raw, but promising.

Reginald Wayne · Post #19 » by **Reginald Wayne** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:28 am

LOL

source: real gm wiretap.