rumor: 3 team trade wolves, lakers, magic

mattyBoi · Post #321 » by **mattyBoi** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:15 pm

Wolves fans overrating their players.

trufan24 · Post #322 » by **trufan24** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:15 pm

LOL ofcourse the Lakers had to get rid of Bynum if they were getting Beasley and Barrea ahaha...you all know what i mean

SEBAS-07 · Post #323 » by **SEBAS-07** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:18 pm

I rather let Dwigth walk for nothing than trade him for this package.

Piecake · Post #324 » by **Piecake** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:18 pm

mattyBoi wrote:Wolves fans overrating their players.

Not really, I just dont want Gasol on my team. Why the hell would any team want a 31 year old pf who is already starting to decline and gets paid 20 million when you already have a good center who is a hell of a lot cheaper and younger? And if this trade goes down, why the hell would we trade Pekovic for Martin or Klay? Pekovic right now is worth more than those two. If you think im overrating pekovic in that instance, then you simply havent seen pekovic play the last month. the dude is a beast.

GoldenKnight · Post #325 » by **GoldenKnight** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:19 pm

mattyBoi wrote:Wolves fans overrating their players.

For real man

Fred Williamson · Post #326 » by **Fred Williamson** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:22 pm

SEBAS-07 wrote:I rather let Dwigth walk for nothing than trade him for this package.

so nothing > williams, bynum, huh?

Cultness · Post #327 » by **Cultness** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:23 pm

Wesley Johnson is worthless, Beasely is laughable.

Chosen01 · Post #328 » by **Chosen01** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:23 pm

C'mon now Martin would fit perfectly with Minny, Pek has been good but he hasn't been that good to not give up for a SG in NEED like Martin.

Sasaki · Post #329 » by **Sasaki** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:24 pm

Piecake wrote:
mattyBoi wrote:Wolves fans overrating their players.

Not really, I just dont want Gasol on my team. Why the hell would any team want a 31 year old pf who is already starting to decline and gets paid 20 million when you already have a good center who is a hell of a lot cheaper and younger? And if this trade goes down, why the hell would we trade Pekovic for Martin or Klay? Pekovic right now is worth more than those two. If you think im overrating pekovic in that instance, then you simply havent seen pekovic play the last month. the dude is a beast.

I'll agree that Martin is probably not worth Pekovic ( though I object to your 35 mpg criticism, as there's no reason for Martin to do that given how strenuous this lockout season is especially since we have a great backup in Lee), but Gasol is these days seriously underrated as everyone's obsessed with youth. I don't see him falling off worse than KG, whom even today is a good player. He'll still be fine at 32, 33. He's big and has the footwork, I'd still easily do a Scola-Martin deal for Gasol.

Johnlac1 · Post #330 » by **Johnlac1** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:27 pm

Wolves fans overrating their players? I'm actually a Bucks supporter, but I try to watch all the teams. In Rubio, Love, and possibly Pekovic the Wolves have three players who are among the best at their respective positions. Love is already regarded by many experts as maybe the best power forward in the NBA. Only Steve Nash and maybe Jeremy Lin have Rubio's court vision. Mainly due to Rubio the Wolves are a .500 team and have equaled their win total for all of last year. According to their pts scored against pts allowed, they should be over .500. Yes, and Nikola Pekovic last years benchwarmer. It's not just because of his ability to score points and rebounds against everybody including Howard, he fits in well with the team. And that's why the Wolves don't want to break up the chemistry between their top three players. Everybody else is disposable. The one question is the development of D. Williams. The management is holding their collective breaths hoping he comes along. If he does, then the Wolves only have to get a consistent scoring and defending two guard to make bigger waves. They don't want a player like Gasol who cannot play together at the same time with Love and Pekovic.

SEBAS-07 · Post #331 » by **SEBAS-07** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:30 pm

Fred Williamson wrote:
SEBAS-07 wrote:I rather let Dwigth walk for nothing than trade him for this package.

so nothing > williams, bynum, huh?

Yep this trade does not clear bad contracts, and I don`t see any type of picks. Andrew Bynum is a guy who has skeleton problems and is due for a big contract.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1184609/2/index.htm

Trainers learned that Bynum underwent his first knee operation when he was 12 and were concerned about his Q angle—the relationship between his pelvis, leg and foot. According to head athletic trainer Gary Vitti, a wide Q angle can affect the way the kneecap glides along the thigh bone and can also cause increased foot pronation, both common sources of injuries. "Andrew is challenged in terms of his skeleton," Vitti says. "But we can work with those issues to some degree. What you can't do is take someone with a normal Q angle and make him 7 feet, 285 pounds."

Derrick Williams is a tweener, who I don`t like as a player.

lijoge · Post #332 » by **lijoge** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:34 pm

Muggsy Bogues wrote:
lijoge wrote:terrible trade for the Lakers...

that's essentially Gasol and Bynum both for Dwight... and the Lakers supposedly said they weren't going to do that...

They may have said that, but might've changed their minds after what they've gone through thus far this season. It's not as if proclamations like that are set in stone. What's more, they did that assuming that Dwight would try forcing a trade by claiming that he'd only play for the Lakers, and that's not happening. I say why not swing for the fences? It's worked for them before.

i hear what you're saying, and there is valid logic there...

but to me, if the Lakers make this move they are continuing to forget (aside from Kobe) whats made them so formidable in recent years... superior front court...

Dwight is a beast but he's only one guy...

what made the Lakers unbeatable was throwing Bynum/Gasol/Odom at you...

this move leaves them with only DH... the Lakers should go after dwight but not for both Gasol and Bynum both... it's just sacrificing too much front court...

Dwight for the best F,C (Gasol) and the 2nd best center (Bynum) is paying a kings ransom and moves them backwards imo...

lijoge · Post #333 » by **lijoge** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:38 pm

SEBAS-07 wrote:I rather let Dwigth walk for nothing than trade him for this package.

i can only assume you forgot to make the font green on your post...

thats the only way it makes any sense...

BeasleyTheBeast · Post #334 » by **BeasleyTheBeast** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:39 pm

GoldenKnight wrote:
mattyBoi wrote:Wolves fans overrating their players.

For real man

nobody is overrating anybody here. If you knew how good Pek has been playing lately you'd understand what the Wolves fans are saying.

Plus Pau Gasol contract is huge 18 million a season?

RL34 · Post #335 » by **RL34** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:42 pm

lijoge wrote:i hear what you're saying, and there is valid logic there...

but to me, if the Lakers make this move they are continuing to forget (aside from Kobe) whats made them so formidable in recent years... superior front court...

Dwight is a beast but he's only one guy...

what made the Lakers unbeatable was throwing Bynum/Gasol/Odom at you...

this move leaves them with only DH... the Lakers should go after dwight but not for both Gasol and Bynum both... it's just sacrificing too much front court...

Dwight for the best F,C (Gasol) and the 2nd best center (Bynum) is paying a kings ransom and moves them backwards imo...

I agree. The Lakers get worse short-term with this trade and I have no idea if Dwight would re-sign in a situation no better than Orlando.

TRG · Post #336 » by **TRG** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:45 pm

I don't understand this move for the Wolves at all.

DEEP3CL · Post #337 » by **DEEP3CL** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:47 pm

Ballah wrote:Marshon Brooks, Brooks Lopez, NJ lottery pick (top 5 very likely), houston mid first round pick, Humpy Kardassian >>>>> Bynum/Williams + horrible LA picks. Marshon Brooks is better than Derick Williams by far, Brooks Lopez and LOTTERY pick in a loaded draft is better than Bynum by far, Houston's pick is better than LA's or Minnys pick, and Humpy Kardassian and Memet Okur are just bonus expirings. Nj's deal is faaaar better than this for Orlando.

Ahhh yeah keep making yourself believe that kid. The minute you said Brooks was better than Williams,basketball IQ sunk to levels of transparent.

BeasleyTheBeast · Post #338 » by **BeasleyTheBeast** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:47 pm

TRG wrote:I don't understand this move for the Wolves at all.

they will be a much solid team in the postseason if this deal goes down.

Speedlot · Post #339 » by **Speedlot** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:49 pm

It is amazing how people actually say that bynum and gasol made the lakers gods the lst few years. When in reality bynum was a no show for the lakers in both their title runs. Bynum only ot good and consistent THIS year. Considering that this trade better not happen.. this does not make the lakers better. Ithelps them with money though... As gasol was making mire than dwight.

microfib4thewin · Post #340 » by **microfib4thewin** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:58 pm

SEBAS-07 wrote:Yep this trade does not clear bad contracts, and I don`t see any type of picks. Andrew Bynum is a guy who has skeleton problems and is due for a big contract.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1184609/2/index.htm

Trainers learned that Bynum underwent his first knee operation when he was 12 and were concerned about his Q angle—the relationship between his pelvis, leg and foot. According to head athletic trainer Gary Vitti, a wide Q angle can affect the way the kneecap glides along the thigh bone and can also cause increased foot pronation, both common sources of injuries. "Andrew is challenged in terms of his skeleton," Vitti says. "But we can work with those issues to some degree. What you can't do is take someone with a normal Q angle and make him 7 feet, 285 pounds."

Derrick Williams is a tweener, who I don`t like as a player.

That depends on whether we are talking about an extended Dwight or one that can leave this offseason. Suppose this rumor has any weight and we are talking about a half year rental there is no reason for the Lakers to eat Hedo's contract even if the TPE allows it. If Dwight gets extended in the trade then that's a different scenario.