Win totals are out

[HMFFL]

Atlanta Over/Under 86.5

The rest of the teams:
Arizona Diamondbacks 84.5
Baltimore Orioles 70.5
Boston Red Sox 87.5
Chicago Cubs 73.5
Chicago White Sox 76.5
Cincinnati Reds 86.5 (-120o)
Cleveland Indians 75.5
Colorado Rockies 82.5
Detroit Tigers 94.5
Houston Astros 62.5
Kansas City Royals 78.5
Los Angeles Angels 89.5
Los Angeles Dodgers 81.5
Miami Marlins 82.5
Milwaukee Brewers 82.5
Minnesota Twins 74.5 (-120u)
New York Mets 74.5 (-120u)
New York Yankees 93.5 (-120u)
Oakland Athletics 72.5
Philadelphia Phillies 95.5
Pittsburgh Pirates 73.5 (-120u)
San Diego Padres 70.5
San Francisco Giants 87.5
Seattle Mariners 72.5
St. Louis Cardinals 87.5 (-120u)
Tampa Bay Rays 87.5
Texas Rangers 94.5
Toronto Blue Jays 81
Washington Nationals 80.5

[Superiorblogman]

So, if you ask the oddsmakers the Reds, Phillies, Giants, and Cards are the NL teams that they think will be just as good or better than us. With 6 other teams too close for comfort and 2 in our division being Miami and Washington who both upgraded. Looks like a trainwreck waiting to happen if you ask me.

[Nemesis21]

I'm going to say, the Braves win 94 games this season and secure a WC spot. Philly wins the East with 98 wins.

[Superiorblogman]

That's a long time to wait for a bet to cash, but if I could make my way out to Vegas I still would not touch the Braves. Pitching staff health is a question and they are depending on too many young position players. I am scared to go under and not sure about over Braves have a lot to prove that's why they should have made a move or two.

[HMFFL]

I like the over for us.

We have the pitching and I expect the bats to do a better job this season. Of course it depends on if we make a trade during the spring (Prado?) or not. Staying healthy also seems to be an issue for us during recent years.

On the bright side, Lowe is gone, so that guarantees a few more wins..lol

[bstrassburg]

I was thinking 94 wins earlier today as well. This is the EXACT same team as last season, except that got rid of their worst pitcher and swapped out an ok veteran shortstop for an ok rookie shortstop. I would think 90 would be the floor.

Onto other teams, I'd take the under on the Marlins. I think the Marlins are going to lead the NL East for the month of April and lose all their momentum by the all star break. I think they'll be fourth place when it's all said and done. They have too many personalities on that team and I can see Hanley being whiny throughout the season.

I think the Phillies are due for a down year as well, Halladay and Lee aren't getting any younger. Granted they are both dominant starters but I don't think their ERAs are going to be nearly as good as they were last year. Their already declining offense is getting worse and with Howard out a good number of games, the run production is going to suffer. I might not take the under on the Phillies but I definitely wouldn't take the over.

The Nationals scare the crap out of me. If they got Fielder, I would have gave them the division right now. The only thing slowing them down is that terrible Jayson Werth contract and even that isn't terrible at this time. Their pitching is better and they have the Braves number. I'd take the over on them easily, there is no way they won't be above .500. Especially is Bryce Harper is their opening day RF, which I think he is.

The Mets. Invest your life savings in the under, they won't win 65 let alone 75.

[Superiorblogman]

This is one thing that just shows some people aren't thinking straight about this team. How can people keep throwing around how many wins we had last year on the positive side but not mention that epic meltdown. Look how we finished the season with the same time. If those bad feelings carry over and we are more that team than the team that was a sure in for the playoffs before that meltdown then we are like 65 to 70 win team at best. I see us as a mix of both the meltdown and the team that should have cruised into the playoffs. That is why I am somewhere between 65 and 95. 80 wins is not going to get it done.

[Nemesis21]

This is one thing that just shows some people aren't thinking straight about this team. How can people keep throwing around how many wins we had last year on the positive side but not mention that epic meltdown. Look how we finished the season with the same time. If those bad feelings carry over and we are more that team than the team that was a sure in for the playoffs before that meltdown then we are like 65 to 70 win team at best. I see us as a mix of both the meltdown and the team that should have cruised into the playoffs. That is why I am somewhere between 65 and 95. 80 wins is not going to get it done.

Get over it. That was last season. Move on.

[HMFFL]

A ton of money has been wagered on the Nats. The Over/Under is now 84.5 for them.

[Superiorblogman]

This is one thing that just shows some people aren't thinking straight about this team. How can people keep throwing around how many wins we had last year on the positive side but not mention that epic meltdown. Look how we finished the season with the same time. If those bad feelings carry over and we are more that team than the team that was a sure in for the playoffs before that meltdown then we are like 65 to 70 win team at best. I see us as a mix of both the meltdown and the team that should have cruised into the playoffs. That is why I am somewhere between 65 and 95. 80 wins is not going to get it done.

Get over it. That was last season. Move on.

No-one is getting over it and moving on. Why should I? When you say we win 90+ games what do you base it on? What we have coming back and what you think they are capable of, plus the new possible guys to rotation and lineup. You are basing things off of mostly last year, but move on? Come on, it is okay to be a blind fan but when it comes to intelligent discussion your move on argument then citing what we have coming back as hope is just too contradictory.

[ATL Boy]

This is one thing that just shows some people aren't thinking straight about this team. How can people keep throwing around how many wins we had last year on the positive side but not mention that epic meltdown. Look how we finished the season with the same time. If those bad feelings carry over and we are more that team than the team that was a sure in for the playoffs before that meltdown then we are like 65 to 70 win team at best. I see us as a mix of both the meltdown and the team that should have cruised into the playoffs. That is why I am somewhere between 65 and 95. 80 wins is not going to get it done.

Get over it. That was last season. Move on.

No-one is getting over it and moving on. Why should I? When you say we win 90+ games what do you base it on? What we have coming back and what you think they are capable of, plus the new possible guys to rotation and lineup. You are basing things off of mostly last year, but move on? Come on, it is okay to be a blind fan but when it comes to intelligent discussion your move on argument then citing what we have coming back as hope is just too contradictory.

What we base it on is the fact that last year Uggla batted 172 through alot of the first half of the season, he's not gonna bat 172 again this year there'll be more consistency and he won't finish with a 233 average. Moving on, Last year injuries depleted the rotation, Hanson, and JJ 2 of our top 3 starters both missed pretty much all of of September. Staying with the injuries Jason Heyward had serious discomfort with his swing last year due to a big shoulder injury that stayed with him throughout the season, this year he's going back to basics to avoid that discomfort. And finally lets not forget the fact that that the back of the rotation (Kimbrel, Venters, O'flahrity) were all worn down by seasons end and each suffered a collapse because the top of the rotation wasn't that good other than Moylin who was also injured; this year Vizcaino, and Medlen are both there to bolster the top of the rotation and keep that late season collapse from happening.
Is that enough reason for you?

[Superiorblogman]

Get over it. That was last season. Move on.[/quote]

No-one is getting over it and moving on. Why should I? When you say we win 90+ games what do you base it on? What we have coming back and what you think they are capable of, plus the new possible guys to rotation and lineup. You are basing things off of mostly last year, but move on? Come on, it is okay to be a blind fan but when it comes to intelligent discussion your move on argument then citing what we have coming back as hope is just too contradictory.[/quote]
What we base it on is the fact that last year Uggla batted 172 through alot of the first half of the season, he's not gonna bat 172 again this year there'll be more consistency and he won't finish with a 233 average. Moving on, Last year injuries depleted the rotation, Hanson, and JJ 2 of our top 3 starters both missed pretty much all of of September. Staying with the injuries Jason Heyward had serious discomfort with his swing last year due to a big shoulder injury that stayed with him throughout the season, this year he's going back to basics to avoid that discomfort. And finally lets not forget the fact that that the back of the rotation (Kimbrel, Venters, O'flahrity) were all worn down by seasons end and each suffered a collapse because the top of the rotation wasn't that good other than Moylin who was also injured; this year Vizcaino, and Medlen are both there to bolster the top of the rotation and keep that late season collapse from happening.
Is that enough reason for you?[/quote]

All of that is wishy-washy best case scenario mess.

[Nemesis21]

All of that is wishy-washy best case scenario mess.

Just go away blogman. You are annoying.

[Superiorblogman]

All of that is wishy-washy best case scenario mess.

Just go away blogman. You are annoying.

Let's act like everything is okay and sing great uplifting songs.