Official Trade Thread XVIII: 1/20/12 - 5/14/12

[Ruzious]

^ Hmmm...re-read your post and now I think I get it. My issue was that I didn't want to miss out on the chance to amnesty Lewis. But if your math is correct, it's almost like we are amnestying Lewis since he'd only cost $4M against the cap. That's actually VERY interesting, especially if you consider that we could then theoretically amnesty Blatche and have even more cap space than if we'd simply amnestied Lewis.

But would TOR really swap lotto picks or give up JV just to dump Barbosa? They are already $7M under the cap, so they could dump less and still sign him (unless they plan on maxing him out, which would be ridiculous). And it wouldn't make sense for them to clear room to sign him to a Collison-like deal (with a balloon payment up front and cheaper years after that) because DEN would simply match it since Chandler is still RFA.

I guess the bottom line is that I don't get the TOR rumors to begin with, but your idea to buyout Lewis instead of waiting amnesty him is interesting. Heck, we could still do that even if we didn't trade for somebody.

Yeah, I saw a blurb about Toronto trying to do everything they can to get Wilson Chandler (They must really love him.) and remembered Zonker educating me on the buyout rules a couple days ago (which I had never heard of before) and figured maybe there was a way for the Wiz to take advantage of the situation to either get a better shot at Davis or get Jonas V - or both. The blurb I read said that Toronto has to sign Chandler by March 1st to do it this season - because of a free agency due date - even though the trade deadline isn't till March 15th.

[Ruzious]

havent messed w/ the trade machine, but would this work?

blatche to LA

for

McRoberts + filler

It'd be great for the Wiz, but the Lakers would not voluntarily take on Blatche's salary. Remember, they virtually gave away Odom - who had a pretty much expiring contract, and he's like a helluvalot better version of Blatche.

[FAH1223]

Vesley is going to be a pretty good defender esp as he gains experience and some strength. But I have no hope for him offensively. I'm really meh about him. He's a bust for where he was picked but he may be a useful player

that aside, we need two way players

[McGully Culkin]

havent messed w/ the trade machine, but would this work?

blatche to LA

for

McRoberts + filler

It'd be great for the Wiz, but the Lakers would not voluntarily take on Blatche's salary. Remember, they virtually gave away Odom - who had a pretty much expiring contract, and he's like a helluvalot better version of Blatche.

Ahhh, ok.

I brought it up because i read that the Lakers were considering kicking the tires on Rasheed Wallace. I figured if there is one NBA player who could possibly keep Blatche in line and NOT put up w. his lazy play, it would be Kobe.

Lakers do miss the versatility of Odom...Blatche, obviously isn't Odom...but I was curious if he would fit on their roster.

I'd love to land McRoberts. He's a very unselfish player and he can make some smart plays. We need more of those types of players on the roster. He's also has seemed to have fallen out of favor w. Mike Brown. So who knows. Ernie fleeced the Lakers before, so why not again? LOL

I just want Blatche gone.

[woggers]

Would you guys trade Blatche for Biedrens and Dorell Wright?.... Just curious

[TGW]

Would you guys trade Blatche for Biedrens and Dorell Wright?.... Just curious

Of course.

[badinage]

Not only would we, there is not a single person on this board who would not take off several days of work to personally deposit the body -- if that's what it took.

[Jajwanda]

Eh I would consider it for Metta. As a third big man he has potential, but I hate that last year of his salary.

[dangermouse]

Blatche for Metta + 1st rounder + cash for his meds

the only deal i'd consider.

[DaRealHibachi]

Not only would we, there is not a single person on this board who would not take off several days of work to personally deposit the body -- if that's what it took.

[LyricalRico]

Would you guys trade Blatche for Biedrens and Dorell Wright?.... Just curious

We'd have to add more pieces to make the deal work under the cap, but Blatche+Turiaf+Young for Biedrins+Wright works for me.

[MikeTheKid]

Not only would we, there is not a single person on this board who would not take off several days of work to personally deposit the body -- if that's what it took.

Not only would I assist with transferring the body, I would include his lifetime Burger King Membership card.

[rl25g]

if LA gets Sessions...

Young, Blatche, Turiaf, 2012 Second for McRoberts, Blake, Walton, LA 1st.

McRoberts has fallen out of grace with Mike Brown, and Blake would serve as a legit back up point gaurd for wall.

LA trades players who have money to them after this year, who are/would be out of the rotation, while getting quality depth and taking a chance on Blatche. They trade one of their two 1st round picks, but still get a high second out of the deal.

We could then be able to use the pick, or flip it in a future trade.

[LyricalRico]

^ Count me in for that!

[SUPERBALLMAN]

^ Count me in for that!

I 2nd that 2nd! Looks like a good & fair trade. Turaif, a former Laker, would be a good addition to them for the playoffs. Young would learn alot playing with and practicing against Kobe. Mike Brown knows Blatche can play.

Wizards could use all those guys. Lakers possibly like the swap of the unguaranteed salary of the early 2nd rounder for the late 1st.

[fishercob]

I continue to think that Blatche for Ben Gordon has to make sense for the Pistons. They have by far the most future salary committed of any bad team in the league -- already at $63M (!) for next year -- and that's without a high draft pick and perhaps a high second rounder too. That payroll is one thing if you're a quasi-contender or even a playoff team. But for as crappy as they are I just don't see how they can afford to not make some cost-cutting moves.

[LyricalRico]

I've been fine with Blatche-for-Gordon for some time. I think it works well for both teams.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

I continue to think that Blatche for Ben Gordon has to make sense for the Pistons. They have by far the most future salary committed of any bad team in the league -- already at $63M (!) for next year -- and that's without a high draft pick and perhaps a high second rounder too. That payroll is one thing if you're a quasi-contender or even a playoff team. But for as crappy as they are I just don't see how they can afford to not make some cost-cutting moves.

I'd really like to somehow pickup Detroit's pick. What about something like this... Lewis, McGee, 2nd round pick to Detroit for Gordon, Villanueva, Daye, 1st round pick?

Detroit gets out of the Gordon/Villanueva money a year earlier, get McGee to pair inside w/ Monroe. Plus another trade option I think is possible, but not sure, is Wizards could amnesty Lewis and essentially deal the empty cap space to Detroit and just absorb the Gordon/Villenueva contracts if Detroit doesn't want Lewis' 1 yr deal. Wizards add a couple proven vets to their roster, add Daye and another high pick.

[LyricalRico]

^ Wow, that's really interesting. If we can get Maxiell instead of Charlie V, I wouldn't be upset if it happened.

[fishercob]

Dumars may be stupid but he's not a complete idiot. He's not giving up their lotto pick without a really good player coming back.