Official Speculation Thread (Pt XII, Mods Close)

RickB-Orlando · Post #1421 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:44 am

DJRajX wrote:
RickB-Orlando wrote:
DJRajX wrote:I would trade Ryan for Ellis... I'm sorry guys

If Dwight commits, then agreed. Otherwise, I say ship Dwight and rebuild.

Well if we get Ellis... and Dwight is still moronically not committing (which would be baffling)... then we ship Dwight out, and hey!... at least we now have Ellis... and maybe Bynum or Lopez, Brooks, pick in return... depending on which deal we pull... not bad

As I understand it, there's no way the Magic make a trade for a guy to keep Dwight if Dwight hasn't already approved the deal before it is finalized.

So this legwork either is (a) after Dwight has told them go get Ellis and I will not opt out, or
(b) prework on a deal to get an agreement in principle, that can then be finalized pending a commitment from Dwight.

But trading away a young big in Ryno for Ellis if Dwight has not signed on the deal would be foolish, and I don't think that's how this will go down. Just my opinion.

Reverse_Angle · Post #1422 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:44 am

DiplomaticMagic wrote:I wasn't getting my hopes up when I saw Rudolph's tweet, but when I saw Broussard tweet it, that excited me a little. As much as we can talk bad about that guy, Broussard is usually right. I just hope he's not just piggybacking off Rudolph.

man..

DiplomaticMagic · Post #1423 » by **DiplomaticMagic** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:45 am

It'lll be awesome if we can keep Anderson too, I'd really miss him if gone.

arsenal6106 · Post #1424 » by **arsenal6106** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:45 am

Ryno will have to be part of this deal. I'm going to hate see him leave, but at the same time I'll be looking forward to Harper getting some important NBA minutes.

rcklsscognition · Post #1425 » by **rcklsscognition** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:45 am

ClayDavis wrote:
magic111 wrote:Im worried about warriors owners...they are obsessed with the idea they can get Dwight, will they pull off on any trade that helps us keep Dwight??

sam amick is on the level of broussard and stein. he is good. its common sense too. why help the magic when you want howard? unless a 3 team deal can deliver them an elite big its unlikely

If Dwight would take his option for next year it'd help a ton.

Phantom418 · Post #1426 » by **Phantom418** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:45 am

thelead wrote:
94_MagicFan wrote:If we getEllis can we ship off jameer to LA for that trade exception they got from dallas

Why would we do that?

Exactly, just keep both and cut Duhon out of the rotation all together if possible.

arkknight1988 · Post #1427 » by **arkknight1988** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:46 am

otis will need to get creative to get this done

ADRajX · Post #1428 » by **ADRajX** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:46 am

RickB-Orlando wrote:
DJRajX wrote:
RickB-Orlando wrote:If Dwight commits, then agreed. Otherwise, I say ship Dwight and rebuild.

Well if we get Ellis... and Dwight is still moronically not committing (which would be baffling)... then we ship Dwight out, and hey!... at least we now have Ellis... and maybe Bynum or Lopez, Brooks, pick in return... depending on which deal we pull... not bad

As I understand it, there's no way the Magic make a trade for a guy to keep Dwight if Dwight hasn't already approved the deal before it is finalized.

So this legwork either is (a) after Dwight has told them go get Ellis and I will not opt out, or
(b) prework on a deal to get an agreement in principle, that can then be finalized pending a commitment from Dwight.

But trading away a young big in Ryno for Ellis if Dwight has not signed on the deal would be foolish, and I don't think that's how this will go down. Just my opinion.

I mentioned a while back in this thread... there was a news item or quote from late December or early January where it was confirmed that one of the guys that Dwight wanted was Monta Ellis (along with Josh Smith, Iggy, SJax, etc... the usual names). So I think if this deal goes down, Dwight is in the "know" and approved of it

Davidm89 · Post #1429 » by **Davidm89** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:47 am

If we trade both JJ and Ryan and our only reasonable return in Ellis I will be sad, of course if Dwight stays if the before mentioned trade happens then as much as I'll miss Ryan and JJ it's worth it.

ADRajX · Post #1430 » by **ADRajX** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:47 am

Davidm89 wrote:If we trade both JJ and Ryan and our only reasonable return in Ellis I will be sad, of course if Dwight stays if the before mentioned trade happens then as much as I'll miss Ryan and JJ it's worth it.

thelead · Post #1431 » by **thelead** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:47 am

For the record, I do not think Otis can pull this off. I would be ecstatic if he proves me wrong but rarely does.

Reverse_Angle · Post #1432 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:48 am

we can not have a jameer/monta backcourt. no mam, we can not have that.

either monta starts at 1 and jameer comes off the bench a la the jet or no soup for you.

magic111 · Post #1433 » by **magic111** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:48 am

rcklsscognition wrote:
ClayDavis wrote:
magic111 wrote:Im worried about warriors owners...they are obsessed with the idea they can get Dwight, will they pull off on any trade that helps us keep Dwight??

sam amick is on the level of broussard and stein. he is good. its common sense too. why help the magic when you want howard? unless a 3 team deal can deliver them an elite big its unlikely

If Dwight would take his option for next year it'd help a ton.

I hope Otis called up NOH and is trying to send Kamen to GSW. They need a center bad

jjtreyball · Post #1434 » by **jjtreyball** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:48 am

Take lee off their hands as well

D12VCMagic · Post #1435 » by **D12VCMagic** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:48 am

A Warriors beat writer shot this down saying they won't trade us Ellis unless they get Dwight.

Ellis has and still is a longshot IMO. There just isn't much out there for us to improve with Dwight.

mattyBoi · Post #1436 » by **mattyBoi** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:48 am

This is a whole lot of nothing IMO.

DiplomaticMagic · Post #1437 » by **DiplomaticMagic** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:49 am

Wait, I just thought of something. Ryan is a free agent this summer right? Trade him for Ellis than sign him back in the off-season!! Genuis!!!!!!

InFlames · Post #1438 » by **InFlames** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:49 am

This Warriors owner must be on crack.

toquito · Post #1439 » by **toquito** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:49 am

Lol Ellis line: 10-27 21 pts, 8 assts, 4 to... he won't be getting that freedom in Orlando that's for sure

ADRajX · Post #1440 » by **ADRajX** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 2:49 am

thelead wrote:For the record, I do not think Otis can pull this off. I would be ecstatic if he proves me wrong but rarely does.

oh yeah same here... but I'm setting myself for disappointment lol... I'm living in the moment of this "news"... it's been so long since we've heard something like this... it took us 12 parts to get something mentioned worthwhile :lol:

... so F it... I'm riding this storm all the way