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Post#1 » by dlts20 » Thu Mar 1, 2012 6:31 pm

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The Washington Wizards continue to falter, due largely to an inability to make plays when it counts most.

A visit from the scuffling Cleveland Cavaliers -- in addition to Andray Blatche's likely return -- could help them get back on track.

Trying to avoid a seventh consecutive defeat, the Wizards look Saturday night to continue their home dominance of the Cavaliers, who are hoping to have rookie standout Kyrie Irving available.

Washington (7-28) has been outscored by an average of 10.6 points during its six-game skid, but has had a chance to win each of its last three contests before ultimately coming up short.

After getting outscored 27-18 in the fourth quarter of a 115-107 loss to Sacramento on Feb. 22, the Wizards continued to come up short following the All-Star break. Washington rallied from a 22-point deficit only to fall 119-118 at Milwaukee in the final seconds Tuesday before suffering a 102-95 defeat to Orlando on Wednesday.

The Wizards were within one point of the Magic after three quarters of play but couldn't keep up in the final minutes.

"I think we've been in a lot of games this year, I think we need to start winning them," guard Jordan Crawford said. "All the comebacks and the 'Wizards hung in there, they're a young team', that's old. You can only use that for so long. We gotta start putting wins on the board."

"The thing that we struggle with is in the fourth quarter when (teams) really lock down on us and we gotta execute, I think that's when we struggle and it's hard to get points."

Crawford started Wednesday over Nick Young, who along with center JaVale McGee was demoted to a reserve role due to undisciplined play.

Crawford has been a bright spot during the six-game skid, averaging 20.3 points including a season-high 32 in a Feb. 22 loss to Sacramento. He's likely to get another start after Young left the loss to Orlando in the fourth quarter with a bruised right knee. Young is not expected to play Saturday.

The Wizards should receive a boost from Blatche, who is expected to return after a 15-game absence due to a strained left calf. The power forward was averaging 10.3 points and 7.1 rebounds before he went down.

Washington has won 21 of 26 meetings with Cleveland (13-21) in the nation's capital -- including six of the last seven. The Wizards have to like their chances all the more Saturday if Irving can't go.

The No. 1 overall pick in last June's draft missed Friday's 112-91 loss to Chicago with the flu and is uncertain for this contest. With their leading scorer (18.5 ppg) sidelined, the Cavaliers got outscored 82-63 in the final three quarters.

"It's disappointing," said Antawn Jamison, who scored a team-high 22 points. "Against a team like that you have to bring it for 48 minutes. We only did it for 12. It's the realization that we've got a long way to go."

Cleveland will now try to avoid losing five straight for the first time since its NBA-record 26-game skid Dec. 20-Feb. 9, 2011.

Jamison, who spent five-plus seasons with the Wizards before getting traded to Cleveland during 2009-10, is averaging 22.2 points versus his former team -- his third-highest mark against any opponent. Jamison has scored at least 21 points in five of his last six games overall.


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Dray returns. The last 2 #1 pics against eachother. Both guys seem to be really good friends which I didnt know. They were hanging around eachother alot All Star Weekend and even sat together for the All Star game. I heard someone ask Irving a question about something and he started glowingly talking about Wall out the blue.

The Cavs are playing very well but will be playing there 4th game in 5 nights, the first 3 all against pretty good teams so maybe we're catching them at the right time but they are playing good ball right now so who knows.

I also have McGee starting because I think JC was going to take over for NY anyways but I think McGee was just being sent a message and wouldve started last game if we had played any team other then the Magic since Howard kills him anyways. They wanted Seraphin's beef. We played well so you never know but I think McGee will start.

Cavs were playing like an 8th seed and still kinda are but have lost 4 straight, all to very good teams though. I was really confident about this win but Im getting less & less confident. I stil think we'll find a way to pull it out. Wiz 109-98 with Wall outplaying either Irving or Sessions
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Post#2 » by GhostsOfGil » Thu Mar 1, 2012 8:48 pm

via mike lee

"Nick Young (bruised right knee) didn't practice Thurs; will have MRI today. Rashard Lewis also sat out. Andray Blatche returned"
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Post#3 » by Munson79rip » Thu Mar 1, 2012 9:29 pm

zaRdsAndZeRos wrote:via mike lee

"Nick Young (bruised right knee) didn't practice Thurs; will have MRI today. Rashard Lewis also sat out. Andray Blatche returned"


I guess bruised right knee sounds better than bruised ego.
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Post#4 » by dlts20 » Thu Mar 1, 2012 10:22 pm

Munson79rip wrote:
zaRdsAndZeRos wrote:via mike lee

"Nick Young (bruised right knee) didn't practice Thurs; will have MRI today. Rashard Lewis also sat out. Andray Blatche returned"


I guess bruised right knee sounds better than bruised ego.

lol........I was thinking the same thing. Its amazing how guys always seem to go on the injuried list after being benched
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Post#5 » by nate33 » Thu Mar 1, 2012 10:48 pm

To be fair, it's possible that his bum knee could explain his poor shooting. There is definitely something wrong with Young's shot. He hasn't had a single good shooting outing since Portland. He has missed 60 of his last 83 shots.

I'm not defending Young's decision-making; he has a terrible bball IQ and that alone is certainly a reason to consider letting him go this summer. But he's not THIS bad of a player.
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Post#6 » by dlts20 » Thu Mar 1, 2012 11:03 pm

nate33 wrote:To be fair, it's possible that his bum knee could explain his poor shooting. There is definitely something wrong with Young's shot. He hasn't had a single good shooting outing since Portland. He has missed 60 of his last 83 shots.

I'm not defending Young's decision-making; he has a terrible bball IQ and that alone is certainly a reason to consider letting him go this summer. But he's not THIS bad of a player.

he did look hurt last game. I was doing something so I couldnt tell if he hurt his knee on a specific play or did he already have a knee injury but even if he's hurt, his shot selection is the biggest reason for his bad shooting. Plus I think he's mentally starting to feel the pressure of millions slippin away which is making him press. The best thing for him would be to take some time off, come back healthy, and finish the season strong
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Post#7 » by BigA » Fri Mar 2, 2012 12:12 pm

Glad to see Jackie Gleason is coming back.
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Post#8 » by Zonkerbl » Fri Mar 2, 2012 2:48 pm

Huh, Erden starts but only plays 12 minutes per game. Tristan Thomas plays 19 minutes per game. So their starting and backup center on the depth chart play a combined 31 minutes per game...
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Post#9 » by hands11 » Fri Mar 2, 2012 4:04 pm

It is possible you can stop the cute game thread titles and fit Wiz vs Cavs in there somewhere.

Irving at Wall an The Return Of The Great One ? That can go in your first post.
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Post#10 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Mar 2, 2012 4:14 pm

Looking at Cleveland's record, it dawns on me that Parker, Casspi, and Jamison can all shoot from long range. So can Gibson. Sessions is an experienced playmaker who has been mentioned in trades. I would rather have Gee at SG than what the Wizards have--at least he plays defense first and won't shoot a team out of games.

I'm really hard on Wall, but if you put him in Irving's place, Cleveland probably has the same record or close, if not better.
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Post#11 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Fri Mar 2, 2012 4:23 pm

I'm looking forward to this game. Hope Wall tears up Irving. Irving is overrated.
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Post#12 » by llcc25 » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:22 pm

TheKingOfVa360 wrote:I'm looking forward to this game. Hope Wall tears up Irving. Irving is overrated.

Nonsense! How is Irving overrated? If anything, hes exceeded everyone's expectations of his impact.
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Post#13 » by dlts20 » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:33 pm

hands11 wrote:It is possible you can stop the cute game thread titles and fit Wiz vs Cavs in there somewhere.

Irving at Wall an The Return Of The Great One ? That can go in your first post.

Stop hating on everything all the time. 9 times out of 10 people put the names of the teams. I dont make a thread for every game so I will do it how I like. Even myself still put the team names most of the time. I only do it like this when its a special type of matchup. Next game we play the Warriors so I wouldnt put any other name because there is nothing special about it. Plus when you start losing alot, you wanna switch things up because it gets old & boring. You can do yours how you like and Ill do mine how I like. Its not that serious
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Post#14 » by hands11 » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:58 pm

dlts20 wrote:
hands11 wrote:It is possible you can stop the cute game thread titles and fit Wiz vs Cavs in there somewhere.

Irving at Wall an The Return Of The Great One ? That can go in your first post.

Stop hating on everything all the time. 9 times out of 10 people put the names of the teams. I dont make a thread for every game so I will do it how I like. Even myself still put the team names most of the time. I only do it like this when its a special type of matchup. Next game we play the Warriors so I wouldnt put any other name because there is nothing special about it. Plus when you start losing alot, you wanna switch things up because it gets old & boring. You can do yours how you like and Ill do mine how I like. Its not that serious


Oh stop. That is complete nonsense. I don't hate on everyone.

And yes, you are right. It is not that serious. No reason to dig your heels in and over react with "I'll do as a like" type comments.
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Post#15 » by closg00 » Fri Mar 2, 2012 6:28 pm

dlts20 wrote:
hands11 wrote:It is possible you can stop the cute game thread titles and fit Wiz vs Cavs in there somewhere.

Irving at Wall an The Return Of The Great One ? That can go in your first post.

Stop hating on everything all the time. 9 times out of 10 people put the names of the teams. I dont make a thread for every game so I will do it how I like. Even myself still put the team names most of the time. I only do it like this when its a special type of matchup. Next game we play the Warriors so I wouldnt put any other name because there is nothing special about it. Plus when you start losing alot, you wanna switch things up because it gets old & boring. You can do yours how you like and Ill do mine how I like. Its not that serious


Don't change anything dlts, no-one cares about the GT title and at-least you make a proper GT.
As-long as people know it's a GT (which they did), then roll with it IMO.
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Post#16 » by dlts20 » Fri Mar 2, 2012 6:45 pm

hands11 wrote:
dlts20 wrote:
hands11 wrote:It is possible you can stop the cute game thread titles and fit Wiz vs Cavs in there somewhere.

Irving at Wall an The Return Of The Great One ? That can go in your first post.

Stop hating on everything all the time. 9 times out of 10 people put the names of the teams. I dont make a thread for every game so I will do it how I like. Even myself still put the team names most of the time. I only do it like this when its a special type of matchup. Next game we play the Warriors so I wouldnt put any other name because there is nothing special about it. Plus when you start losing alot, you wanna switch things up because it gets old & boring. You can do yours how you like and Ill do mine how I like. Its not that serious


Oh stop. That is complete nonsense. I don't hate on everyone.

And yes, you are right. It is not that serious. No reason to dig your heels in and over react with "I'll do as a like" type comments.

Its all good. Im not above criticism or someone asking me to do something a certain way but I just didnt like the cute comment
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Post#17 » by dlts20 » Fri Mar 2, 2012 6:56 pm

I dont think Irving is overrated but I think Wall is better and has a higher upside. Still, I love Kyrie's silky smooth game, his J, ability to change speeds & manipulate the D. This should be a great matchup
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Post#18 » by closg00 » Fri Mar 2, 2012 7:33 pm

dlts20 wrote:I dont think Irving is overrated but I think Wall is better and has a higher upside. Still, I love Kyrie's silky smooth game, his J, ability to change speeds & manipulate the D. This should be a great matchup


Splain-why. Irving has exceeded excpectations, he has a jumpshot, and he has plenty of upside left as-well.
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Post#19 » by dlts20 » Fri Mar 2, 2012 7:44 pm

closg00 wrote:
dlts20 wrote:I dont think Irving is overrated but I think Wall is better and has a higher upside. Still, I love Kyrie's silky smooth game, his J, ability to change speeds & manipulate the D. This should be a great matchup


Splain-why. Irving has exceeded excpectations, he has a jumpshot, and he has plenty of upside left as-well.

no doubt. I think they could easily be 1 & 2 one day. I think a jumper can be learned or improved. However, I think Wall is bigger, far more explosive, has a far better defensive upside, and I think he is the better pure passer. I cant stress it enough, I think if he gets the right system around him he will look great.

With that being said, I love Irving's game and it wouldnt shocked me if he ends up better then Wall or the best in the league. I love his cerebral approach & attitude while I even moreso love Wall's fire and unwillingness to lose. I think once we do or if we ever get a good team, we will be hard to beat with Wall's passion.
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Post#20 » by dlts20 » Fri Mar 2, 2012 7:46 pm

also, its very possible that there games are so different that there will always be a debate to some degree, like Williams vs Paul or do you prefer a guy like Paul or guys like Rose & Westbrook. The styles are just so different.

Oh yeah, I like Wall's size better also. He could guard the 2 while I dont think Irving can

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