Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 7

[Rhettmatic]

This is Part 7 to our NBA Draft Thread after the other thread reached the 100-page mark.

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[Rhettmatic]

Just adding my last post in the other thread, which I put up before I realized how long it was...

Chadrock Ford has a post up about which players are in/out of the draft. Not much new info, but says that MKG could be serious about returning for at least a sophomore year, and Cody Zeller is also considering staying put.

But more comfortingly, his "sources" say that Davis, Barnes, Drummond, Robinson, Beal, Sullinger, Lamb, Leonard and Lillard are all likely to enter.

Here's the post:

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog/_/n ... urn-school

[Reignman]

Without MKG I'd prefer we end up with a top 4 pick. Might be tough with Bargs coming back. Hopefully we move Jose/Barbosa to solidify our spot.

[fredericklove]

Without MKG, then barnes taken, definitely god of lamb for me. Or Beal, either way, please sign chandler!

[ZanTabak2]

Davis, Drummond, BEAL, Barnes, Lamb and PJ3 are the only players I want from this draft, we need the 2 seed to make sure we get one of these players!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sunny]

cody zeller will likely stay. MKG will not stay.

Anyways i haven't changed too much lately

1. anthony davis
2. andre drummond
3. MKG
4. Jeremy Lamb
5. harrison Barnes
6. Jared Sullly
7. Thomas Robinson
8. Brad Beal
9. irrelevent

[StringerBell]

If we're not picking any higher than 5 and MKG stays then it's all about BEAL or PJ3.

[McFurious1]

My Draft board

1. Davis
2. Drummond (too much upside)
3. Beal
4. MKG
5. Barnes
6. Lamb

If we get any one of those 6 I'd be happy.

[Marvin!]

Wow Lamb isn't even in the top 10? With the way some people talk about him here you'd think he is a top 5 talent.

I think many of the people here are just ignoring all the PF prospects (aside from Davis, who is too awesome to ignore) and focusing on the wings.

I think that is exactly what is happening on the board, although in fairness nbadraft.net has Lamb at 5

AD, ADrum, Barnes, Robinson, Lamb, Moultrie, Sully, Beal, MKG, Zeller, Marshall, Jones

The Lamb/Kevin Martin comparison is kind of interesting, although as pointed out Kmart gets to the line at an amazing rate (which is why he's so efficient offensively).

[Waylon Mercy]

If MKG stays in school and Barnes gets taken before we pick were gonna have to choose
between a PF or SG which is the posistions are 2 best players play. Will be interesting
if we sign Chandler as well. If we draft Beal or Lamb I wonder if DeRozan gets traded? if
not hes gonna have quite the duel on his hands to keep his starting job.

[The Duke]

The PG that I want has been playing to well recently, I dont think he'll last till our 2nd pick.

Tyshawn Taylor, PG
Senior, Kansas

On top of that he will get alot of attention in the tournament.

If we can acquire a late pick, this would be my target.

[ATLTimekeeper]

I'm sure there will be at least one disappointing decision to stay in school. I'm not convinced MKG is going back to Kentucky. Cal usually cattle prods his guys out the door to make way for the next recruiting class. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if Barnes or Sullinger stayed.

Still high on MKG, Barnes and AD. Souring on Lamb.

[Indeed]

I'm probably late to this, but when did DX move Barnes down to 6?

Their new top 10:

1. Davis
2. Drummond
3. MKG
4. Robinson
5. Sullinger
6. Barnes
7. PJ3
8. Henson
9. Zeller
10. Beal

He has been dropped for 2 weeks or more, can't remember.

^^ Wow Lamb isn't even in the top 10? With the way some people talk about him here you'd think he is a top 5 talent.

I think many of the people here are just ignoring all the PF prospects (aside from Davis, who is too awesome to ignore) and focusing on the wings.

There are some good PF prospects but man, they are mostly undersized guys and that seem to have low ceilings.

More than PF, those C are serviceable.
PF: Thomas Robinson, Perry Jones
C: John Henson, Tyler Zeller

If you need a big, you need a big. You can't have a SF or SG at the PF spot.

[Waylon Mercy]

Wow Lamb isn't even in the top 10? With the way some people talk about him here you'd think he is a top 5 talent.

I think many of the people here are just ignoring all the PF prospects (aside from Davis, who is too awesome to ignore) and focusing on the wings.

I think that is exactly what is happening on the board, although in fairness nbadraft.net has Lamb at 5

AD, ADrum, Barnes, Robinson, Lamb, Moultrie, Sully, Beal, MKG, Zeller, Marshall, Jones

The Lamb/Kevin Martin comparison is kind of interesting, although as pointed out Kmart gets to the line at an amazing rate (which is why he's so efficient offensively).

I think Lamb is a more complete guard then Martin way more athletic, better passer, better
handles, plays off the ball better actually off the ball and coming off screens hes almost
shows Rip Hamilton and Reggie Millier potential in that area. I also think he'll be a better
defender with his length. Im not sure if he will be the scorer that Martin is/was but
he has the potential to do it. I don't know why Draft Express has him so low on there mock.

[JN]

John Henson would make the rest of the Washington Wizards look smart.

[Dr Positivity]

The guy I think stays is Drummond. He needs it and probably would still be a lotto lock next year even if he sucks (a la PJIII staying high) + freshman don't leave UConn (literally)

[sunny]

uncertainty about coach + lack of ncaa tournament = no

[PowerPhil15]

My Draft board

1. Davis
2. Drummond (too much upside)
3. Beal
4. MKG
5. Barnes
6. Lamb

If we get any one of those 6 I'd be happy.

this is a very good outlook. I watch them all play a few times. Davis is clear number 1, drummound has the potential that you shouldnt pass up on, beal is a leader and very fluid and runs the offence A LOT in games, MKG just has a killer instinct, mobility and heart as well as some great moves. Barnes and lamb are on the same wave length, some great games and some good tools under their belts, but it seems like they are a bit overhyped (even though ive seen some excellent games with them)

[Undefeated]

I don't really care for much of the bigs from this draft besides Anthony Davis, Andre Drummond and maybe Thomas Robinson. I'm all for drafting BPA, but there are simply too many talented wings to be passing up on that would fill a need while at the same time giving the Raptors a major talent upgrade.

Seeing how everyone runs pick-and-rolls as it's a major set of any team's offense, and the Raptors are in the bottom five in pick-and-roll with the ball-handler scoring, it makes me think the Raptors really need a player who can effectively score with the ball in their hands through pick-and-rolls. That's why Harrison Barnes, Jeremy Lamb, and Bradley Beal are at the top of my list. All three have the shooting ability and capable handles that they can trust it enough to put the ball on the floor taking their man off the dribble.

[FluLikeSymptoms]

The guy I think stays is Drummond. He needs it and probably would still be a lotto lock next year even if he sucks (a la PJIII staying high) + freshman don't leave UConn (literally)

Agree on him needing it but I don't know why he'd pay for another year if UCONN can't play in the tournament. He's looking at ~$9.5 mil guaranteed if he goes #2.

Robinson, Sullinger and Henson are really good college bigs but are doomed by their dimensions IMO. 3rd bigs, all.

Leonard and TZeller, who could be a BLopez/Hibbert too-obvious pick this year, are better picks for me but I still like the wings better. Leonard's great size/mobility could work at the back of our zone and TZ has good size, a brain and he scores on baby hooks.

I don't really know what to make of PJ3 and CZeller likely returns but I like them over TR, JS and JH, too. I have to see that Tony Mitchell kid play. If we're taking a chance on undersized, that guy's numbers are crazy.