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Post#41 » by iamworthy » Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:55 am

I spoke on the buss family going cheap last year after we got swept. Check the GT if you dont believe me. But I will say, if the right pieces come here they might spend.
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Post#42 » by dockingsched » Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:00 am

kobeaki wrote:Jetset....did you ever watch the movie the godfather?


If so, did you ever wonder what the sequel would've been like if fredo took over the family instead of michael? You have? Cool, I Present you ; Jim buss... And we ain't seen nothin yet, wait till the old man dies... And yr beloved jimmy sells the team ala Peter " the pussay" omalley... You know the wilderness the dodgers have been in since the Kirk Gibson year? Yeah that one... Remember the look on eckersleys face? That will be how lakers fans will look... Unless Jeanie and Phil pull some sort of coup that's what we're up against.... Sucks to write, but might as well soften the blow now...


the problem with the godfather reference is that jerry buss hand picked jim buss, just like don vito hand picked michael, not fredo. also helps that jerry isn't dead yet, so he's still acting as the consigliere just like don vito did for michael.
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Re: "... a steaming pool of nepotism and nincompoops" 

Post#43 » by DEEP3CL » Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:09 am

iamworthy wrote:I spoke on the buss family going cheap last year after we got swept. Check the GT if you dont believe me. But I will say, if the right pieces come here they might spend.
I do recall that Big Game, in fact we've been the only two with the guts to admit as much here. Some times facing reality is hard as hell when you steadily want to deny the facts. The proof of them riding on the cheap is valid by looking at our roster. Now it seems to have spread to personnel that work off the court...that's bad news if you ask me.
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Re: "... a steaming pool of nepotism and nincompoops" 

Post#44 » by yows » Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:46 pm

i'm going to keep a cool head about this and reserve judgement until after trade deadline. no use in reading articles and making assumptions. if we still have the same roster come march, then ill pissed.
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Post#45 » by Jetset » Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:09 pm

dockingsched wrote:
kobeaki wrote:Jetset....did you ever watch the movie the godfather?


If so, did you ever wonder what the sequel would've been like if fredo took over the family instead of michael? You have? Cool, I Present you ; Jim buss... And we ain't seen nothin yet, wait till the old man dies... And yr beloved jimmy sells the team ala Peter " the pussay" omalley... You know the wilderness the dodgers have been in since the Kirk Gibson year? Yeah that one... Remember the look on eckersleys face? That will be how lakers fans will look... Unless Jeanie and Phil pull some sort of coup that's what we're up against.... Sucks to write, but might as well soften the blow now...


the problem with the godfather reference is that jerry buss hand picked jim buss, just like don vito hand picked michael, not fredo. also helps that jerry isn't dead yet, so he's still acting as the consigliere just like don vito did for michael.


I don't even know what you two are talking about but regardless from that analogy, you should still give the man a chance. If he does nothing then hate away.

yows wrote:i'm going to keep a cool head about this and reserve judgement until after trade deadline. no use in reading articles and making assumptions. if we still have the same roster come march, then ill pissed.


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Post#46 » by Sedale Threatt » Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:05 pm

iamworthy wrote:I spoke on the buss family going cheap last year after we got swept. Check the GT if you dont believe me. But I will say, if the right pieces come here they might spend.


And the sad thing is, it should never even come to that. Once this new TV deal kicks in they're going to be clearing $200 million a year in pure profit for the next two decades, with the guarantee of an even bigger deal once it's over. (Thank you, inflation.) That's more than enough bread for hookers and blow while also maintaining a viable scouting departnment.
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Post#47 » by iamworthy » Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:14 pm

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iamworthy wrote:I spoke on the buss family going cheap last year after we got swept. Check the GT if you dont believe me. But I will say, if the right pieces come here they might spend.


And the sad thing is, it should never even come to that. Once this new TV deal kicks in they're going to be clearing $200 million a year in pure profit for the next two decades, with the guarantee of an even bigger deal once it's over. (Thank you, inflation.) That's more than enough bread for hookers and blow while also maintaining a viable scouting departnment.


:lol: :lol: Agree. Thats more than enough money to do the things you stated and some...
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Post#48 » by kobeaki » Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:54 am

dockingsched wrote:
kobeaki wrote:Jetset....did you ever watch the movie the godfather?


If so, did you ever wonder what the sequel would've been like if fredo took over the family instead of michael? You have? Cool, I Present you ; Jim buss... And we ain't seen nothin yet, wait till the old man dies... And yr beloved jimmy sells the team ala Peter " the pussay" omalley... You know the wilderness the dodgers have been in since the Kirk Gibson year? Yeah that one... Remember the look on eckersleys face? That will be how lakers fans will look... Unless Jeanie and Phil pull some sort of coup that's what we're up against.... Sucks to write, but might as well soften the blow now...


the problem with the godfather reference is that jerry buss hand picked jim buss, just like don vito hand picked michael, not fredo. also helps that jerry isn't dead yet, so he's still acting as the consigliere just like don vito did for michael.

well, the consigliere w/in the lakers was west/phil...ala tom hayden...and michael kept tom around, but would fredo have kept tom? or would he have let fat clemenza or even the jew hyman roth run the business? see jimmy has already gotten rid of many of the old mans support systems...

also, don vito chose michael because he was the best choice, don jerry has chosen jimmy because he loves his son and wants him to succeed in something, even though the entire world knows that jeannie probably is the most qualified of the original buss children...
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Post#49 » by kobeaki » Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:56 am

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iamworthy wrote:I spoke on the buss family going cheap last year after we got swept. Check the GT if you dont believe me. But I will say, if the right pieces come here they might spend.
I do recall that Big Game, in fact we've been the only two with the guts to admit as much here. Some times facing reality is hard as hell when you steadily want to deny the facts. The proof of them riding on the cheap is valid by looking at our roster. Now it seems to have spread to personnel that work off the court...that's bad news if you ask me.

its in line with my godfather analogy...the old men werent greedy, winning is what mattered, the younger generation want wealth, winning is secondary...especially in light of the time warner deal...
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Post#50 » by DrewBynum77 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:54 pm

DEEP3CL wrote:I tried alerting you guys that the Buss family was going on the cheap for a long time now. All I have to say to this is if Philip Anschutz sells his 40 something percent stake, then you'll know things have hit the toilet. Mr.Anschutz is a guy with deep pockets....way more deeper than ODB's, he's the one I wanted to take full ownership one day.


you were right. that's why jerry assigned shortbuss Jim to do the job.

so sad, guys :( They got a big TV contract now they'll coast for a decade like bulls did after Jordan...
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Post#51 » by So Gutta » Thu Mar 1, 2012 7:02 am

DrewBynum77 wrote:
DEEP3CL wrote:I tried alerting you guys that the Buss family was going on the cheap for a long time now. All I have to say to this is if Philip Anschutz sells his 40 something percent stake, then you'll know things have hit the toilet. Mr.Anschutz is a guy with deep pockets....way more deeper than ODB's, he's the one I wanted to take full ownership one day.


you were right. that's why jerry assigned shortbuss Jim to do the job.

so sad, guys :( They got a big TV contract now they'll coast for a decade like bulls did after Jordan...


Why are you predicting a decade down the line? Do you think they don't want to win or something? :roll:

The new CBA is essentially a hard cap, so the Lakers have some tough choices to make. Getting 1st round picks is always a good idea, IMO. Especially when people keep saying we need to get younger & faster. Buss is a draft guy. Teams build through the Draft all the time.

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Post#52 » by DrewBynum77 » Thu Mar 1, 2012 3:16 pm

because it's jim buss running the show and everything people said about him is getting confirmed. I wonder what'll happen when kobe retires.
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Post#53 » by Kilroy » Thu Mar 1, 2012 4:51 pm

Dr Buss always let his team and the opportunities it had dictate his spending... If the team had the core pieces to contend, he was willing to spend, but if it didn't and there weren't any opportunities out there to get a superstar to help, he generally tried to roll back the spending...

Adding Beasley is not going to get us over the hump to contention and adding that much salary and cap doesn't make sense. If they were willing to take a little back in return, that'd be different.

I just don't think anything that's happened to date is a clear sign Jim Buss is running the team into the ground...

Now if we land Dwight, and we still hear that the FO doesn't want to spend to build around him, I'll be changing my tune.

But right now, not taking on a whole lot of Cap Tax for Beasley of all players, sounds like good sense to me.
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Post#54 » by desertlakerfan » Thu Mar 1, 2012 5:43 pm

When the Odom trade went through Mitch was quoted as saying the main reason why financial decisions like that were going to take place was due to the new CBA restrictions on teams that are way over the luxury cap like LA. It's no longer just costing us more money to be over the tax, we also miss out on our full MLE and I think it also puts us at the bottom of the list for claiming released players.

Point being, lets all not focus just on the dollar aspect of decisions since the new CBA hurts luxury taxed teams in other ways as well. That was one of the main points of the new CBA from small market teams, ways so the large market teams can't just spend their way through the luxury tax without any non financial repercussions.
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Post#55 » by Frosty » Thu Mar 1, 2012 5:50 pm

desertlakerfan wrote:When the Odom trade went through Mitch was quoted as saying the main reason why financial decisions like that were going to take place was due to the new CBA restrictions on teams that are way over the luxury cap like LA. .


All I have to say is that if the recent rumor about Lamar for NAsh goes through I'll be happy for the nincompoops that traded Lamar. Nash on LA would be scary. 8-)
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Post#56 » by madmaxmedia » Fri Mar 2, 2012 12:33 am

I would have liked to see Jeannie take over, I think she would have the sense to keep the basketball people and let them do their job, instead of thinking random guys from a bar could do the same thing.

She seems to have a lot of business and PR sense, and has (had) been involved with the team for awhile and would have made for a more natural progression. But I think Jerry picked Jim over Jeannie because Jim is male and Jeannie is not.

All that being said, we'll see what happens. It's easy to jump to conclusions based on that article (well a couple of articles actually), but it's just one article.
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Post#57 » by PurpleGold » Sun Mar 4, 2012 1:23 am

I wish some of you would have more sense than to call a team that is eighteen million over the tax line "cheap."
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Post#58 » by Sedale Threatt » Sun Mar 4, 2012 6:04 am

They're about to start cashing in on one of the richest TV deals in pro sports. They'd have to double their payroll to make a dent in the bottom line.

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