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2012 NBA Draft - Part II

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Re: 2012 NBA Draft - Part II 

Post#201 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Mar 4, 2012 2:39 am

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closg00 wrote:Marquette handling Georgetown, I know not to pick GT to advance this year, they always disappoint at the dance.


The backcourt of Wright & Freeman IMO were the key culprits in G-Town disappointing during postseason play. They are gone and honestly I'm pretty optimistic about a decent postseason run from this team. One game isn't going to make or break this team.

I think this current team has toughness & teamwork in spades. That trip to China last summer will really help the Hoyas come tourney time.


Hollis Thompson and Jae Crowder especially, didn't hurt their NBA stock. Crowder is another one of those players who is rated way too low in the mocks.
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Re: 2012 NBA Draft - Part II 

Post#202 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Mar 4, 2012 2:48 am

pcbothwel wrote:^^^ I have been touting Barnes all season and ill repeat what i have said before. His audition will be tonight against Duke and throughout the tourney. I am willing to throw out all my pre conceived notions about him and start fresh with him tonight and i think most of you should do the same. But we'll see

I did watch the first half and the end of this game.

Barnes does have a nice jab step and a fluid shooting motion. He really posts up well and attacks smaller defenders off the dribble. He has the measurable size.

theboomking, you're right. Good athlete but not elite athleticism.

I feel like I just watched Jarvis Hayes at U. of Georgia all over again. He's not an NBA three-point shooter. I don't think he's got IT to be a great player at the next level. I still feel pretty much the same way. This is NOT a top-3 pick. I think he's a first rounder, but not necessarily even a top-15 player in this draft. What Barnes does is coast through games. I don't like it one bit. I think Barnes will be a Bobby Simmons-type NBA player. Pretty good, but not great.

This game I came away wondering about Kendall Marshall at the next level. He is an excellent floor general who controls the tempo of the game in half court. Unfortunately, he seems weak and not a great scorer. Defensively, guys like Rivers beat him off the dribble a lot.

Henson played some good defense. He physically resembles Sam Perkins.

UNC just stomped Duke early. Zeller was about what I expected. He doesn't dominate physically, but has so much size and speed at PF that he's a can't miss NBA player.
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Re: 2012 NBA Draft - Part II 

Post#203 » by mhd » Sun Mar 4, 2012 3:16 am

Davis, Drummond, MKG, and Robinson are all clearly ahead of Barnes as picks for the Wiz.
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Post#204 » by Jimmy Recard » Sun Mar 4, 2012 3:25 am

mhd wrote:Davis, Drummond, MKG, and Robinson are all clearly ahead of Barnes as picks for the Wiz.

Isn't Drummond staying in college another year?
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Re: 2012 NBA Draft - Part II 

Post#205 » by miller31time » Sun Mar 4, 2012 3:43 am

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mhd wrote:Davis, Drummond, MKG, and Robinson are all clearly ahead of Barnes as picks for the Wiz.

Isn't Drummond staying in college another year?


I know MKG is considering it. Not sure about Drummond.
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Post#206 » by truwizfan4evr » Sun Mar 4, 2012 3:46 am

I'm watching the Texas vs Kansas game and so far Robinson has 21 point and 11 rebounds 10 mins left in the game. What a beast this dude is.
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Re: 2012 NBA Draft - Part II 

Post#207 » by 7-Day Dray » Sun Mar 4, 2012 4:05 am

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mhd wrote:Davis, Drummond, MKG, and Robinson are all clearly ahead of Barnes as picks for the Wiz.

Isn't Drummond staying in college another year?


He said he is, but I'm not buying it. Same with MKG.
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Re: 2012 NBA Draft - Part II 

Post#208 » by truwizfan4evr » Sun Mar 4, 2012 4:25 am

Does anyone want's Drummond? they say hes the next coming of a Dwight howard. It would be nice to land him he can lock down the middle for us and Rebound very well.
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Re: 2012 NBA Draft - Part II 

Post#209 » by pancakes3 » Sun Mar 4, 2012 5:56 pm

Kentucky/Florida is spoiling Brad Beal for me. The fact that Patric Young is scoring at will inside is also humanizing him for me (but good for Patric's stock).
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Post#210 » by truwizfan4evr » Sun Mar 4, 2012 8:12 pm

What players do you do not want the wizards to get in this year draft?
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Post#211 » by Earth2Ted » Sun Mar 4, 2012 8:28 pm

Sorry if this has already been posted, but Seth Davis at SI wrote a tremendous article (LINK HERE) which has some great insights about some of the top guys in the draft. Apparently it is taken from a bunch of different coaches from 6 of the top NCAA conferences under condition of anonymity.

Some of the highlights:

Austin Rivers- a little overrated and selfish, but gutsy
Tyler Zeller- best player at UNC, tough and versatile
Harrison Barnes- not much said except make him beat you off the dribble
Jeremy Lamb- can't create his own shot
Andre Drummond- no post moves
Sullinger- not as tough as he seems, gets frustrated, has no lift- make him shoot over you
Thomas Robinson- beast, try to deny him position or get him in foul trouble
Anthony Davis- game changer on D, and showing he has game on offense too
MKG- strangely enough, they didn't mention him at all.
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Post#212 » by truwizfan4evr » Sun Mar 4, 2012 8:33 pm

I have heard rumors that Thomas Robinson is staying in school. This could be a disaster if all these top players remain in college.
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Re: 2012 NBA Draft - Part II 

Post#213 » by Dat2U » Sun Mar 4, 2012 9:24 pm

truwizfan4evr wrote:I have heard rumors that Thomas Robinson is staying in school. This could be a disaster if all these top players remain in college.


Meh, what they say now really doesn't mean much. It's standard operating procedure for many of these prospects to toe the line about staying in school in the middle of the season. That tune will change once the tourneys are over and people start focusing on the draft.
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Re: 2012 NBA Draft - Part II 

Post#214 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Mar 4, 2012 10:17 pm

truwizfan4evr wrote:What players do you do not want the wizards to get in this year draft?


Harrison Barnes, Perry Jones III, Andre Drummond, Terrence Jones, Austin Rivers, Jared Sullinger if it is any lower than #6 overall. I don't want Mason Plumlee. I am starting to back off of Jeremy Lamb.

I don't want any players with a questionable motor, or who are overrated relative to where they are projected to go in this draft. I don't want soft players, injury prone players, or players who lack the ability to play assertively at both ends of the court.
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Post#215 » by Ruzious » Mon Mar 5, 2012 12:32 am

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truwizfan4evr wrote:What players do you do not want the wizards to get in this year draft?


Harrison Barnes, Perry Jones III, Andre Drummond, Terrence Jones, Austin Rivers, Jared Sullinger if it is any lower than #6 overall. I don't want Mason Plumlee. I am starting to back off of Jeremy Lamb.

I don't want any players with a questionable motor, or who are overrated relative to where they are projected to go in this draft. I don't want soft players, injury prone players, or players who lack the ability to play assertively at both ends of the court.

Do you think Sullinger and Rivers match your second paragraph?
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Re: 2012 NBA Draft - Part II 

Post#216 » by Dat2U » Mon Mar 5, 2012 12:52 am

i think Sullinger's recent play matches his second paragraph. His motor hasn't been quite up to par lately. And I think it's a huge stretch to conclude that he's assertive on the defensive end of the court.
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Post#217 » by 7-Day Dray » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:01 am

Plus he's had back problems this year.
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Post#218 » by truwizfan4evr » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:09 am

When does draft lottery starts?
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Post#219 » by doclinkin » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:43 am

Earth2Ted wrote:Sorry if this has already been posted, but Seth Davis at SI wrote a tremendous article (LINK HERE) which has some great insights about some of the top guys in the draft. Apparently it is taken from a bunch of different coaches from 6 of the top NCAA conferences under condition of anonymity.


He mentioned two I like:
Terrence Ross of the (other) Huskies.
And the eccentric Royce White of Iowa State.
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Re: 2012 NBA Draft - Part II 

Post#220 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Mar 5, 2012 6:28 am

Unlike issue DeMarcus Cousins, I'm a little leery of Royce White of ISU. White's anxiety disorder sounds to me like it is more rapid cycling and less treatable.

From what I've read of his dismissal from U. Minnesota, and from what I think of his overall game; I don't know if White is a good player to draft when you weigh risks and rewards.

http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article ... &catid=391
http://lacrossetribune.com/sports/artic ... 002e0.html
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/ ... 53196534/1

White's game most closely resembles NBA player James Johnson, of the Toronto Raptors. He's a big man who can do a little bit of everything from scoring, rebounding, to passing. Like Johnson, Royce White doesn't shoot FTs well. In fact, he shoots FTs like Jan Vesely, to the tune of less than 50%. He is very willing to pass (5 assists/game) but he's likely to commit high turnovers (4 turnovers/game).

White's Cylcones have had their way with Perry Jones iii and Baylor in head-to-head. White projects to be a very good defender at SF/PF in the NBA, just like Ron Artest.

I am just scared his problems are deeper than Cousins' doc.

I think a player like Draymond Green is probably a lot better bet to contribute without much problems at the next level.
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