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Re: Bulls (30-8) @ 76ers (22-15) (03/04/2012) on ESPN 

Post#341 » by slowmotion5587 » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:48 am

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nitric0 wrote:Good game guys. I've mentioned it in our GT but you guys are probably the last team I want the Bulls to play in the playoffs aside from the Heat. The defense, the hustle, the teamplay is just built for the playoffs.


you forgot the ability to lose all close games, so you are good, nothing to warry about in Bulls land


If Rose doesn't go bananas today you guys blow us out, that's what I'm most afraid of. D-Rose is clutch, so I'm not usually afraid of close games.
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Post#342 » by ryst » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:50 am

Knux-Future wrote:Man it's gonna be awesome when our FO does not get us another scoring option come the 15th.

gonna be sweet.

But seriously, we don't even need a goto guy (okay we do but hear me out here). We need a guy who can get his own shot. He doesn't need to be a star or even a prolific scorer just another option.

Thad is a good scorer but he has no plays run for him. Iggy is just not consistant offensively. Jrue goes into caliswag mode too much. Turner is a bitch. Meeks spaces floorrrzzz. and Brand is old.

That leaves Lou as the only guy who can really get his own shot. But due to his size and our lack of other options, he can get double teamed or trapped all game.

Just another dude would help us out big time.

Sadly that means we have to get rid of someone. OR we can go after cheaper options like Beasley or Nick Young. If they don't work out they can walk at the end of the year. But they are young, athletic and can score. So they fit in too.

But yeah I'm not wasting my breath...we all know Thorn a'int gon do ****. Dude gets a free paycheck.


i will give a first rounder and Nocioni for Beasley

sooner or later Knux you will come to the realization that i came to , this team cant win with Collins as coach together with the players they have right now
time to blow it up
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Post#343 » by Stills12 » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:50 am

Doug Collins finally doesn't go to Lou to finish the game and everyone else blows it up. From Iggy's air ball down 2 to Young shooting a jumper over Noah and Meeks with the slide to the doghouse (hopefully).

Get to the phones Mr. Thorn and get us a closer.
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Post#344 » by Kobblehead » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:52 am

Getting a closer isn't a realistic goal. Those guys are held onto tightly by their teams. We just need to go get a lead guard to help aid our execution down the stretch. If we're going to continue to jack up jumpshots every game, at least get a guy in here that can generate wide open looks.
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Post#345 » by ryst » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:52 am

Still Desi wrote:Doug Collins finally doesn't go to Lou to finish the game and everyone else blows it up. From Iggy's air ball down 2 to Young shooting a jumper over Noah and Meeks with the slide to the doghouse (hopefully).

Get to the phones Mr. Thorn and get us a closer.


should have went to Holiday , from all this players Holiday is the most likely to make a shot

but you are right,this team is not good enough and a change is needed
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Post#346 » by Stills12 » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:52 am

ryst wrote:time to blow it up

And the whole board thanks the lord that your are not the GM. The only person that says blow it up while leading the divison and with the potential of finally making out of 1st round and getting young guys some more playoffs experience.

Im sorry if i sound like a d*ck but your blow it up idea is so unrealistic that its getting mad annoying.
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Post#347 » by Mik317 » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:53 am

Still Desi wrote:Doug Collins finally doesn't go to Lou to finish the game and everyone else blows it up. From Iggy's air ball down 2 to Young shooting a jumper over Noah and Meeks with the slide to the doghouse (hopefully).

Get to the phones Mr. Thorn and get us a closer.


"I'm sorry but Rod Thorn isn't here right now. I am currently enjoying the free paychecks I receive for sitting on my ass daily. I'll be sure to get back you come March 16th after my planned press conference informing you of the moves we tried to make. Hope to talk to you then."
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Post#348 » by P2K » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:53 am

Still Desi wrote:
ryst wrote:Collins makes me prefer Jordan because Collins is so bad at coaching

22-15 record. Leading Bulls at halftime.

haters gonna hate



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leading Dallas at half time as well how did this turned out?

sixers are shooting way too many jumpers, Chicago will make some changes to the defense to protect that and the sixers will not shoot as good.

second half they need to go the basket as much as possible if they want to win




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Post#349 » by Kobblehead » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:55 am

Still Desi wrote:
ryst wrote:time to blow it up

And the whole board thanks the lord that your are not the GM. The only person that says blow it up while leading the divison and with the potential of finally making out of 1st round and getting young guys some more playoofs experience.


I'm not suggesting that we blow it up, but that "leading the division" card is pretty useless when you've lost 7 of the last 9 and are in danger of being passed up by not only the Celtics, but the Knicks as well.

We've seen the best from the Sixers this year. Do you honestly think we are the same team now as we were earlier in the year with a healthy Spencer Hawes? Because we're not getting that back.
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Post#350 » by Semaj » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:57 am

Wow, we play the Bucks AT their arena tomorrow? I think we all remember what happened last time we played them in Milwaukee on a back-to-back :sigh:

http://www.nba.com/games/20110312/PHIMI ... GIboxscore
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Post#351 » by ryst » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:57 am

Still Desi wrote:
ryst wrote:time to blow it up

And the whole board thanks the lord that your are not the GM. The only person that says blow it up while leading the divison and with the potential of finally making out of 1st round and getting young guys some more playoofs experience.


just like the great playoofs experience they young players got when they went to the playoffs with Cheeks and Dileo,enough with this

if you want to be medicore and never a contending team then thats what you got right now and with the way this team is constructed it will never change.

time to start from scratch
amnesty Brand,trade Lou or let him walk in the summer,trade Iguodala
get as much as draft picks and young players as you can
let the young guys play,lose a lot and hope that you will be able to draft a superstar or two
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Post#352 » by ryst » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:59 am

Trend Settaz wrote:Wow, we play the Bucks AT their arena tomorrow? I think we all remember what happened last time we played them in Milwaukee on a back-to-back :sigh:

http://www.nba.com/games/20110312/PHIMI ... GIboxscore



you know what so funny about this box score?
Meeks the only one to play 34 minutes, everyone else mid 20's tops

lol

i think Meeks is Doug secret lover
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Post#353 » by Stills12 » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:59 am

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Still Desi wrote:
ryst wrote:time to blow it up

And the whole board thanks the lord that your are not the GM. The only person that says blow it up while leading the divison and with the potential of finally making out of 1st round and getting young guys some more playoofs experience.


I'm not suggesting that we blow it up, but that "leading the division" card is pretty useless when you've lost 7 of the last 9 and are in danger of being passed up by not only the Celtics, but the Knicks as well.

We've seen the best from the Sixers this year. Do you honestly think we are the same team now as we were earlier in the year with a healthy Spencer Hawes? Because we're not getting that back.

Nah his idea gets on my nerves because sixers don't need to blow it up. Just make one trade which gets us either a quality big or a closer and we're winning these kind of games.
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Post#354 » by Mik317 » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:00 am

It's more so that it's too late to blow it up now.

Any goodwill the new regime might have gained will go straight out the window. The younger players will get used to losing. And the fact that blowing it up doesn't work.

Look at Detroit, Washington, The Bobcats, Sacramento.

Hell the Wolves are JUST getting out of the hole and who knows how good that team will be.

You might as well play it out and see where this takes you. We are still a work in progress but there is improvement, and we have time.

You figure Brand (and perhaps Iggy) is/are the only toxic contract(s) we have at the moment, so it won't be that hard to fix if it doesn't work out. No need to bail out this early.

But I will agree that some changes need to be made ASAP. But we are moving on up, just gotta hope we can keep it that way.
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Post#355 » by ryst » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:00 am

please Desy let me know which team will give us a quality big man or a closer for the junk that we will offer them

if quality big man and closers were so easy to find they wouldent we have them by now?
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Post#356 » by P2K » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:06 am

Still Desi wrote:Nah his idea gets on my nerves because sixers don't need to blow it up. Just make one trade which gets us either a quality big or a closer and we're winning these kind of games.



And since they won't do that, what else do you suggest?


Wait until the offseason AND THEN blow it up.
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Post#357 » by Stills12 » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:06 am

ryst wrote:
just like the great playoofs experience they young players got when they went to the playoffs with Cheeks and Dileo,enough with this

if you want to be medicore and never a contending team then thats what you got right now and with the way this team is constructed it will never change.

time to start from scratch
amnesty Brand,trade Lou or let him walk in the summer,trade Iguodala
get as much as draft picks and young players as you can
let the young guys play,lose a lot and hope that you will be able to draft a superstar or two

So your idea is to simply tank and tank until you get a superstar? (if that ever happens). As i said before making 1 trade this season is far more realistic and better than trading away players for picks and young payers and watch them lose games for god knows how long.

And even if you try to tank you won't get a high enough pick because the talent level on this team even without Iggy and Brand is still better than about 6 teams.
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Post#358 » by Mik317 » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:07 am

Our past Mediocre teams where built differently.

We had Miller and a bunch of established dudes. Iggy was the up and comer and we had a ton of **** contracts.

This team had Brand, who is basically gone. Iggy who is 28 and is a shut down defender and lolallstar.

Then we have 7 of our rotation under 25/26. No really bad contracts (Iggy is still movable).

So the fact that we are mediocre now (That's up for debate but whatever) means that we haven't hit our ceiling yet. Of course, that asks for a lot of improvement out of said young guys and no bad signings with that Brand Money.

But there is no need to blow it up now.

Make some "major" moves? sure. But blowing it up now is reactionary at best.

Building a team takes time, it doesn't happen overnight guys.
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Post#359 » by Stills12 » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:12 am

ryst wrote:please Desy let me know which team will give us a quality big man or a closer for the junk that we will offer them

if quality big man and closers were so easy to find they wouldent we have them by now?

You are underestimating sixers talent. Iggy's value is at all time high and they also have other pieces (Young, Lou, Turner, Nocioni's expiring contract). Im sure sixers can get a go to scorer with a combination of these pieces (if they wanted).

Problem is you still don't know how good Turner will turn out to be and if a lineup of Holiday, Turner and Iggy can work. Which is why i have a feeling they won't make a trade.
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Post#360 » by Stills12 » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:16 am

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Still Desi wrote:Nah his idea gets on my nerves because sixers don't need to blow it up. Just make one trade which gets us either a quality big or a closer and we're winning these kind of games.



And since they won't do that, what else do you suggest?


Wait until the offseason AND THEN blow it up.

Make a trade next season :dontknow:

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