Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIV, Mods Close))

MagicFan32 · Post #441 » by **MagicFan32** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:12 am

[quote="NW"

Not rally considering the Warriors are getting good play out of Lee, have around $10 mil in cap space this summer and like Lee. So why trade him for a similar player? Even with a difference in contracts?[/quote]

Anderson=almost 23 PER
Lee=Under 20

And no way Anderson commands 10-15 million

rcklsscognition · Post #442 » by **rcklsscognition** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:13 am

I just want something to happen. Anything. Please.

NW · Post #443 » by NW » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:15 am

MagicFan32 wrote:[quote="NW"

Not rally considering the Warriors are getting good play out of Lee, have around $10 mil in cap space this summer and like Lee. So why trade him for a similar player? Even with a difference in contracts?

Anderson=almost 23 PER
Lee=Under 20

And no way Anderson commands 10-15 million[/quote]

Trades and decisions on players aren't decided by PER.

Mrrags009 · Post #444 » by **Mrrags009** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:15 am

i like the idea of beans/ellis/ airza to orlando makes us way more formidable and addresses a few weaknesses ,plus at least we can compete with the toher good teams in the east

arkknight1988 · Post #445 » by **arkknight1988** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:17 am

Nyce_1 wrote:
arkknight1988 wrote:i think the kings would LOVE to pair anderson with cousins. The kings are desperate for ticket sales and anderson is a hometown kid.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7sjj5b9

not bad. however, I'd keep Thorton in Sac-town and ship JRich to Golden State.

gs would rather have thorton. gives them a starting 5 of:
curry/nelson
thorton/klay
wright/rush
lee/hickson
thompson/kwame

bigger and better defensive/rebounding team, possible playoff team. what does that gs fan think

NW · Post #446 » by NW » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:17 am

arkknight1988 wrote:
PeePee la Fritz wrote:
arkknight1988 wrote:i think the kings would LOVE to pair anderson with cousins. The kings are desperate for ticket sales and anderson is a hometown kid.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7sjj5b9

I honestly think this is the most feasible Monta proposal yet. I'd prefer Lee to Biedrins, but I am sure GS would rather dump Andres

gs gets a platoon of young bigs and a nice starting sg in thorton. also nelson would be a great fit there. SAC gets a great pf to compliment cousins game and a starting sg in jrich. orlando gets their man ellis and a backup center. next move would be get a better backup pg and possibly get sjax.

Still doesn't solve the Warriors problem at center. As for the Kaman rumors, the reason the Warriors have pursued him is the belief they can get him without giving up a valuable piece like Ellis.

jjtreyball · Post #447 » by **jjtreyball** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:23 am

MagicFan32 wrote:
Orlando Prodigy wrote:
SEBAS-07 wrote:Sorry but I`m not trading Nelson, Jason Richardson and Ryan Anderson for Monta Ellis.

Monta > Nelson at point guard.
JJ/Wafer might be > J-Rich/JJ.
Getting Lee might be > Anderson come playoff time.
Monta is not a PG, he's a scorer, he's like Gilbert Arenas, he doesn't have the PG mindset, atleast Nelson will try to get his teammates involved, and is traditionally a good 3 point shooter. Monta is a 2, not a 1.

Gilbert was a very good Pg and averaged 30-6-6 he knew how to get people involved and Ellis played pg before curry...also do u expect ellis to guard wade?

arkknight1988 · Post #448 » by **arkknight1988** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:27 am

^@NW:i think thats more than enough return for ellis. thorton could match ellis's scoring while letting curry dominate the ball and jason thompson is way better than andris. curry could shift to sg when nelson comes in and they wouldn't have to play nate rob anymore

mattyBoi · Post #449 » by **mattyBoi** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:27 am

If Lopez is out for the season we are ****.

NW · Post #450 » by NW » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:28 am

jjtreyball wrote:Gilbert was a very good Pg and averaged 30-6-6 he knew how to get people involved and Ellis played pg before curry...also do u expect ellis to guard wade?

He didn't play it well. Hence why the Warriors got Curry and would have taken Flynn or Jennings had Curry not been available

NW · Post #451 » by NW » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:29 am

arkknight1988 wrote:^@NW:i think thats more than enough return for ellis. thorton could match ellis's scoring while letting curry dominate the ball and jason thompson is way better than andris. curry could shift to sg when nelson comes in and they wouldn't have to play nate rob anymore

Being better than the suck that is Andris doesn't make you the answer at center

OMPunk · Post #452 » by **OMPunk** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:31 am

mattyBoi wrote:If Lopez is out for the season we are ****.

No we're not......rather not have him at all if we lose D12. If we have to choose between injury prone centers that have structural problems I'll take a poor mans Dwight over Rony Seikaly 2.0 with a bad foot.

arkknight1988 · Post #453 » by **arkknight1988** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:32 am

NW wrote:
arkknight1988 wrote:^@NW:i think thats more than enough return for ellis. thorton could match ellis's scoring while letting curry dominate the ball and jason thompson is way better than andris. curry could shift to sg when nelson comes in and they wouldn't have to play nate rob anymore

Being better than the suck that is Andris doesn't make you the answer at center

let me rephrase that: j.thompson could be the young center that the warriors desperately need.

NW · Post #454 » by NW » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:34 am

arkknight1988 wrote:
NW wrote:
arkknight1988 wrote:^@NW:i think thats more than enough return for ellis. thorton could match ellis's scoring while letting curry dominate the ball and jason thompson is way better than andris. curry could shift to sg when nelson comes in and they wouldn't have to play nate rob anymore

Being better than the suck that is Andris doesn't make you the answer at center

let me rephrase that: j.thompson could be the young center that the warriors desperately need.

He wasn't that for the Kings (Dalembert and Cousins were preferable), doubt he is for anyone else.

Post #455 » by **Def Swami** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:38 am

Just curious, why are some proposing trades including Bogut? Why would the Bucks deal him and why would a team deal for an injured player?

Phantom418 · Post #456 » by **Phantom418** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:39 am

NW wrote:
jjtreyball wrote:Gilbert was a very good Pg and averaged 30-6-6 he knew how to get people involved and Ellis played pg before curry...also do u expect ellis to guard wade?

He didn't play it well. Hence why the Warriors got Curry and would have taken Flynn or Jennings had Curry not been available

Like Jennings is a better playmaker than Monta?

NW · Post #457 » by NW » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:40 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:Just curious, why are some proposing trades including Bogut? Why would the Bucks deal him and why would a team deal for an injured player?

Bogut's the kind of center GS would deal Ellis for, the injury actually helps as it would give the Warriors a legit excuse to tank for their pick, the Bucks pretty much are looking at a rebuild with practically their whole team wanting out.

NW · Post #458 » by NW » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:41 am

Phantom418 wrote:
NW wrote:
jjtreyball wrote:Gilbert was a very good Pg and averaged 30-6-6 he knew how to get people involved and Ellis played pg before curry...also do u expect ellis to guard wade?

He didn't play it well. Hence why the Warriors got Curry and would have taken Flynn or Jennings had Curry not been available

Like Jennings is a better playmaker than Monta?

Better PG

WeAreVenom · Post #459 » by **WeAreVenom** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:42 am

Jareth, yyou think we could get Evan Turner?

PeePee la Fritz · Post #460 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:42 am

Jesus even the Warriors fans way overrate Ellis!!!!!! He is not worth anywhere near what you think you'll get for him from any team. There is a reason he has been shopped now for 2+ years. He is not worth multiple starters let alone an All Star. The only reason I am ok with Monta on this team is because it probably keeps Howard around.