Cammo's MMA Rankings

[Cammo101]

Pound for Pound

1. Anderson Silva
2. Jon Jones
3. Georges St. Pierre
4. Jose Aldo
5. Dominick Cruz
6. Junior dos Santos
7. Rashad Evans
8. Gilbert Melendez
9. Carlos Condit
10. Dan Henderson
11. Chael Sonnen
12. Ben Henderson
13. Frank Edgar
14. Alistair Overeem
15. Josh Barnett
16. Cain Velasquez
17. Gray Maynard
18. Hatsu Hioki
19. Jake Ellenberger
20. Josh Koscheck
21. Vitor Belfort
22. Joseph Benavidez
23. Mauricio Rua
24. Shinya Aoki
25. Nick Diaz


Heavyweight (265 lbs.)

1. Junior dos Santos
2. Alistair Overeem
3. Josh Barnett
4. Cain Velasquez
5. Fabricio Werdum
6. Frank Mir
7. Shane Carwin
8. Daniel Cormier
9. Antonio Silva
10. Fedor Emelianenko
11. Antonio "Minotauro" Nogueira
12. Cole Konrad
13. Mike Russow
14. Brendan Schaub
15. Sergei Kharitonov
16. Gabriel Gonzaga
17. Travis Browne
18. Roy Nelson
19. Stefan Struve
20. Shane del Rosario
21. Mark Hunt
22. Cheick Kongo
23. Matt Mitrione
24. Thiago Santos
25. Stipe Miocic


Light Heavyweight (205 lbs.)

1. Jon Jones
2. Rashad Evans
3. Dan Henderson
4. Mauricio Rua
5. Lyoto Machida
6. Gegard Mousasi
7. Alexander Gustafsson
8. Forrest Griffin
9. Thiago Silva
10. Ryan Bader
11. Quentin Jackson
12. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
13. Rich Franklin
14. Phil Davis
15. Rafael Cavalcante
16. Muhammed Lawal
17. Renato “Babalu” Sobral
18. Stanislav Nedkov
19. Stephen Bonnar
20. Vladimir Matyushenko
21. Ryan Jimmo
22. Roger Gracie
23. Attila Vegh
24. Tito Ortiz
25. James Te Huna


Middleweight (185 lbs.)

1. Anderson Silva
2. Chael Sonnen
3. Vitor Belfort
4. Nate Marquardt
5. Mark Munoz
6. Hector Lombard
7. Luke Rockhold
8. Yushin Okami
9. Mamed Khalidov
10. Michael Bisping
11. Rousimar Palhares
12. Chris Weidman
13. Tim Boetsch
14. Brian Stann
15. Ronaldo "Jacare" Souza
16. Chris Leben
17. Demian Maia
18. Tim Kennedy
19. Robbie Lawler
20. Alan Belcher
21. Wanderlei Silva
22. Alexander Shlemenko
23. Anthony Johnson
24. Costa Philippou
25. Ronny Markes


Welterweight (170 lbs.)

1. Georges St. Pierre
2. Carlos Condit
3. Jake Ellenberger
4. Josh Koscheck
5. Nick Diaz
6. Jon Fitch
7. Jake Shields
8. BJ Penn
9. Ben Askren
10. Martin Kampmann
11. Rory MacDonald
12. Johny Hendricks
13. Thiago Alves
14. Matt Hughes
15. Dong Hyun Kim
16. Rick Story
17. Diego Sanchez
18. Paulo Thiago
19. Jay Hieron
20. Tyron Woodley
21. Mike Pyle
22. Siyar Bahadurzada
23. Douglas Lima
24. Charlie Brenneman
25. Brian Ebersole


Lightweight (155 lbs.)

1. Gilbert Melendez
2. Ben Henderson
3. Frank Edgar
4. Gray Maynard
5. Shinya Aoki
6. Anthony Pettis
7. Jim Miller
8. Eddie Alvarez
9. Clay Guida
10. Michael Chandler
11. Nate Diaz
12. Jacob Volkmann
13. Melvin Guillard
14. Evan Dunham
15. Joe Lauzon
16. Donald Cerrone
17. Dennis Siver
18. Mizuto Hirota
19. Jadamba Narantungalag
20. Gleison Tibau
21. George Sotiropoulos
22. Sean Sherk
23. Jeremy Stephens
24. Thiago Tavares
25. Edson Barbosa


Featherweight (145 lbs.)

1. Jose Aldo
2. Hatsu Hioki
3. Kenny Florian
4. Marlon Sandro
5. Pat Curran
6. Tatsuya Kawajiri
7. Chad Mendes
8. Diego Nunes
9. Erik Koch
10. Joe Warren
11. Dustin Poirier
12. Patricio "Pitbull" Freire
13. Joachim Hansen
14. Robert Peralta
15. Yuri Alcantara
16. Chan Sung Jung
17. Mark Hominick
18. Hiroyuki Takaya
19. Bart Palaszewski
20. Tyson Griffin
21. Manny Gamburyan
22. Jim Hettes
23. Ross Pearson
24. Charles Oliveira
25. Jonathan Brookins


Bantamweight (135 lbs.)

1. Dominick Cruz
2. Urijah Faber
3. Bibiano Fernandes
4. Renan Barao
5. Brian Bowles
6. Scott Jorgensen
7. Miguel Angel Torres
8. Michael McDonald
9. Zach Makovsky
10. Eduardo Dantas
11. Masakatsu Ueda
12. Antonio Banuelos
13. Eddie Wineland
14. Yusup Saadulaev
15. Alexis Vila
16. Brad Pickett
17. Ivan Menjivar
18. Takeya Mizugaki
19. Masakazu Imanari
20. Koetsu Okazaki
21. Hiroshi Nakamura
22. Mike Easton
23. Chris Cariaso
24. Wagnney Fabiano
25. Raphael Assuncao


Flyweight (125 lbs.)

1. Joseph Benavidez
2. Ian McCall
3. Demetrious Johnson
4. Jussier da Silva
5. Yasuhiro Urushitani
6. Shinichi Kojima
7. Mamoru Yamaguchi
8. Mitsuhisa Sunabe
9. Rambaa Somdet
10. Kiyotaka Shimizu
11. Haruo Ochi
12. Darrell Montague
13. Dustin Ortiz
14. Yuki Shojo
15. Josh Rave
16. Will Campuzano
17. Sean Santella
18. Akira Kibe
19. Brandon Merkt
20. Fumihiro Kitahara
21. Yuki Yasunaga
22. Roy Docyogen
23. Artemij Sitenkov
24. Seiji Ozuka
25. Jose Maria Tome


Women's Pound for Pound

1. Cristiane “Cyborg” Santos
2. Megumi Fujii
3. Zoila Gurgel
4. Ronda Rousey
5. Sarah Kaufman
6. Tara LaRosa
7. Miesha Tate
8. Marloes Coenen
9. Rosi Sexton
10. Jessica Aguilar


Women (145 lbs.)

1. Cristiane “Cyborg” Santos
2. Rin Nakai
3. Hiroko Yamanaka
4. Gina Carano
5. Milana Dudieva
6. Yana Kunitskaya
7. Romy Ruyssen
8. Cindy Dandois
9. Kelly Kobold
10. Lauren Taylor


Women (135 lbs.)

1. Ronda Rousey
2. Sarah Kaufman
3. Miesha Tate
4. Marloes Coenen
5. Alexis Davis
6. Sarah McMann
7. Liz Carmouche
8. Shayna Baszler
9. Hitomi Akano
10. Amanda Nunes


Women (125 lbs.)

1. Tara LaRosa
2. Rosi Sexton
3. Cat Zingano
4. Barb Honchak
5. Sheila Gaff
6. Aisling Daly
7. Takayo Hashi
8. Marianna Kheyfets
9. Roxanne Modafferi
10. Jessica Eye


Women (115 lbs.)

1. Megumi Fujii
2. Zoila Gurgel
3. Jessica Aguilar
4. Ayaka Hamasaki
5. Yuka Tsuji
6. Mei Yamaguchi
7. Seo Hee Ham
8. Kyoko Takabayashi
9. Lisa Ellis-Ward
10. Carla Esparza

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[Cammo101]

I used to post these from time to time and it always made for some interesting conversation. Whatcha think?

[CPT]

BJ Penn has no business being ranked in the top 10 at WW. I'm pretty sure he's only ever beaten Matt Hughes at WW. Plus he's semi-retired.

Nate Marquardt should probably be removed for inactivity, but even if you're including him, I don't see how he's still #4.

Florian #3 FW? He's 1-1. Insulting to the other guys who actually fight regularly at that weight class.

[damo[23]]

Awesome cammo was actually meaning to ask if you were going to restart them mate.

Think your top 3 is very fair right now in p4p. Anderson really is at that stage where as long as he keeps winning its hard to question him. GSP honestly has to go behind Jones purely because Jones finishes fights, despite his lack of experience (and lets face it Jones is pretty damn experienced now given his recent competition, Shogun, Machida and Rampage, that's a pretty good cross section of ex-champs).

Do you feel Aldo can creep into 3rd if he gets enough activity while GSP is off?

Also I hope you never meet Rampage, as he takes things very personally, I bet he wouldn't like you having him in 12th lol.

[NZB2323]

Not sure how you ranked Mike Russow as the 13th best HW...he's 35, gassed in his last fight and he's gone 4-0 in the UFC against weak competition. I don't even know if Mike Russow belongs on the top 25 HW list...

[cowboyronnie]

Nick Diaz needs to face one of those heavyhanded wrestlers. That'll sort the division out some, I think.

Gustaffson is no good. And has beaten no one. He shouldn't be ranked that highly in a stacked division. Rich Franklin would spank him, for example.

[High 5]

I can't think of Rashad as #7 P4P, but I can't really dispute it either.

[Cammo101]

BJ Penn has no business being ranked in the top 10 at WW. I'm pretty sure he's only ever beaten Matt Hughes at WW. Plus he's semi-retired.

Nate Marquardt should probably be removed for inactivity, but even if you're including him, I don't see how he's still #4.

Florian #3 FW? He's 1-1. Insulting to the other guys who actually fight regularly at that weight class.

Any time guys move divisions it is tricky. You have to take into account both what they have done in the division, and what they have done outside of the division. With guys like Penn and Florian, despite limited fights in the division, do you really see many of the guys rated below them beating them? I don't. Benavidez is only 1-0 at Flyweight, should he not be #1 there?

I try to avoid taking guys off for inactivity when I know they are not retired. If Marquardt would hurry up and fight at 170, I could move him down there.

[Cammo101]

Awesome cammo was actually meaning to ask if you were going to restart them mate.

Think your top 3 is very fair right now in p4p. Anderson really is at that stage where as long as he keeps winning its hard to question him. GSP honestly has to go behind Jones purely because Jones finishes fights, despite his lack of experience (and lets face it Jones is pretty damn experienced now given his recent competition, Shogun, Machida and Rampage, that's a pretty good cross section of ex-champs).

Do you feel Aldo can creep into 3rd if he gets enough activity while GSP is off?

Also I hope you never meet Rampage, as he takes things very personally, I bet he wouldn't like you having him in 12th lol.

I don't know that Aldo has the level of competition to make a run at the top 3 until someone in the top 3 loses. There is just so much more talent at LHW, MW, and WW than their is at FW. Aldo is a fantastic fighter, and an Edgar fight would help cement his legacy, but I can't see it moving him over GSP. Same goes for Cruz.

Rampage and I have something in common, neither of us can make 205 lbs.

[Cammo101]

Not sure how you ranked Mike Russow as the 13th best HW...he's 35, gassed in his last fight and he's gone 4-0 in the UFC against weak competition. I don't even know if Mike Russow belongs on the top 25 HW list...

He don't win pretty, but he does win.

[jTF2]

Not sure how you ranked Mike Russow as the 13th best HW...he's 35, gassed in his last fight and he's gone 4-0 in the UFC against weak competition. I don't even know if Mike Russow belongs on the top 25 HW list...

its cuz HWs are **** outside of the top 7ish.

edit. not ****.. but average and certainly of a lower fight skill level than other divisions.

[CPT]

BJ Penn has no business being ranked in the top 10 at WW. I'm pretty sure he's only ever beaten Matt Hughes at WW. Plus he's semi-retired.

Nate Marquardt should probably be removed for inactivity, but even if you're including him, I don't see how he's still #4.

Florian #3 FW? He's 1-1. Insulting to the other guys who actually fight regularly at that weight class.

Any time guys move divisions it is tricky. You have to take into account both what they have done in the division, and what they have done outside of the division. With guys like Penn and Florian, despite limited fights in the division, do you really see many of the guys rated below them beating them? I don't. Benavidez is only 1-0 at Flyweight, should he not be #1 there?

I try to avoid taking guys off for inactivity when I know they are not retired. If Marquardt would hurry up and fight at 170, I could move him down there.

Fair point regarding Benavidez, but to me the difference is, he's 1-0, with the win being a dominant one over probably the #2 guy in the division (before the UFC guys dropped down). He's also never lost to anyone other than the BW champion. It's more reasonable to assume he'll continue to excel at FLW than it is to assume the 1-1 at FW Florian would remain at #3 in the division when he's been proven to fall short against the elite in other divisions, and likewise for the 2-3-1 (by my count) BJ Penn at WW.

[REDDzone]

its cuz HWs are **** outside of the top 7ish.

edit. not ****.. but average and certainly of a lower fight skill level than other divisions.

No, you had it right the first time...they're ****.

[REDDzone]

I'd have Ortiz ranked higher at FLW. But then, I'm a homer like that.

Also, cbr, you think lhw is a stacked division? I mean it has star power at the top, but no depth imo.

[Bernman]

8. Eddie Alvarez
10. Michael Chandler

It's just hard for me to look beyond that. Chandler was lighting him up before he gassed, then went back to lighting him up again after receiving second wind, and finished the guy. Plus I know you respect Woodard, and he beat him. In addition he subbed a BJJ prodigy in Held. I also think it's probable Patricky proves to be better than anyone Alvarez has beaten, including Kawa. He has better striking and sub defense. Kawa only has a little edge in wrestling and cardio, but I think that issue is overblown when it comes to Patricky. BFC has AT LEAST 4 of the top 25 LW's between Chandler, Alvarez, Freire, and Tirloni (although I'm not going to begrudge you on that one given his lack of sample thus far). Hawn could prove to be worthy as well.

Also, cbr, you think lhw is a stacked division? I mean it has star power at the top, but no depth imo.[/quote]

I agree with CBR that it is indeed stacked. JBJ is just making everybody else look bad right now. LHW almost always has to be a strong division because just about anybody who can cut to below the 206-lb limit will to avoid huge weight disadvantages against 280-290 lb heavies.

[REDDzone]

It really is insane just how good LW is in general. Just ridiculous.

[Bernman]

It really is insane just how good LW is in general. Just ridiculous.

I edited in a response to you about your assessment of the LHW division.

How did you respond to my post so quickly? I hate when that happens because then an editing note winds up on the bottom. I thought that was easily quick enough.

[REDDzone]

Just bored at the office, and the Bucks don't interest as much anymore so I just chill on this board.

I just think lhw is pretty top heavy, with guys that are below the top 3-4 guys who have talent but haven't really made the leap yet (Mousasi, Gustaffson, Davis, etc). Also a lot of guys exiting their primes right now as well who used to make the division more rich (e.g., Quinton, Ace). When I think stacked I think deep I guess and I'm not seeing too much there, yet. I agree with your reasoning as to why its an exciting division though. Its like the big guys with knockout power who aren't too fat to run.

[Bernman]

I think that's the reason why it's exciting too, but you brought that conversation to the table my friend. I was arguing why I think it's DEEP.

In regards to the depth debate, I do think you have a point on the timing of greats now being passed their primes. UFC/Zuffa is allowing them to compete in relevant matches for too long for marketing purposes. But conversely they are holding their up and comers back as a result. If they were getting bigger matches they'd be viewed as the top of the division instead.

[duppyy]

I personally would of ranked Rory Mcdonald higher but I can understand why he's so low.

They need to do a better job of putting him against better fighters.

Its as if UFC doesnt want to rush his development.