Austin Daye?

BSM · Post #1 » by **BSM** » Sat Mar 3, 2012 3:44 pm

What happen to this guy, will he ever amount to any thing or will he be out the league pretty soon>?

princeofpalace · Post #2 » by **princeofpalace** » Sat Mar 3, 2012 6:30 pm

I am a huge fan of his.

And I will likely have to eat crow regarding him.

I think he is a comparable player to Gallinari and Ryan Anderson but he is a broke mans version of them at this point. He has all the talent in the world but he's just too mentally weak to be anything special in the league.

Spider156 · Post #3 » by **Spider156** » Sat Mar 3, 2012 7:00 pm

^True. But I think it's mental and physical.

DetroitDon15 · Post #4 » by **DetroitDon15** » Sat Mar 3, 2012 7:18 pm

I think the problem is that Austin Daye really needs to bulk up to play Power Forward. If he could get to 230, I think he would be given the chance to start at PF. He is just too think to play shooting guard. He's basically a weaker version of Prince. I'm willing to wait out his contract and see how he does though.

ComboGuardCity · Post #5 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Sat Mar 3, 2012 7:23 pm

Lawrence Frank needs to tell him to be Steve Novak for a few games. Let him shoot spot up jumpers and try and get his confidence back. Under no circumstances should he be handling the ball.

mercury · Post #6 » by **mercury** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 7:57 am

Thinking he'll be a late bloomer after he's gone... should be a west coast kid...spot up shooter to compliment a true talent.

Dirtgrain · Post #7 » by **Dirtgrain** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 11:49 am

Certainly he has physical limitations, but if he had the right mentality and decision making ability, then he could be a significant contributor. The guy just makes dumb plays.

princeofpalace · Post #8 » by **princeofpalace** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 1:38 pm

We have on the books for one more season. If he wants to be an NBA player, he's gonna need to get it going asap.

Post #9 » by **Cowology** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 2:04 pm

I've more or less given up hope on the kid.

He has the physical tools and skillset to become a Shard/Jamison/Peja style player. He'll never be good defensively, but he has that kinda borderline All-Star offensive potential. Worst case scenario he should be Kyle Korver, which is still a solid rotation player for a team with a dominant bigman. But the kid sucks.

He just looks mentally weak and lazy. He's soft. Doesn't play with a lot of energy or passion, makes the same dumb mistakes over and over. He said himself he doesn't like to think, he just wants to react. But his instincts suck. This is a serious problem.

It's possible he "blossoms" on another team sometime down the line, but at this point I don't have much hope for him in Detroit. Not that I would mind being wrong.

Joe Berry · Post #10 » by **Joe Berry** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 5:21 pm

He needs to focus on being a spot up shooter, and not try to dribble or do other things he is not capable of...we all know he is a liability defensivly, but i still believe he should be given at least consistent minutes for 10-15 games at backup SF, its not like Wilkens is really that much better, also he still has some trade value.
Play him now or trade him, but do something with him, the Pistons lack too much talent to let him rot at the end of the bench.

JD43320 · Post #11 » by **JD43320** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 7:47 pm

Why even talk about Daye? He is done. The only thing he had was his jumper. I put the emphasis on had because his jumper is broken. Without that jumper he is just bad at basketball. He doesn't do anything else well or even half way decent. The Shard/Jamison/Peja comparisons are a joke. His ceiling has always been Channing Frye. A skinny PF that could make jumpers and do nothing else. Now he is just a skinny loser that can't do anything. Daye is probably the dumbest player I have ever seen in a Piston uniform. Anyone else in the conversation for dumbest Piston of all time (save for CV) always gave 100x the effort that Daye has. Daye is rotting on the bench because Daye is rotten. Who gives a **** about a player that is at the end of his contract and doesn't give a ****?

mercury · Post #12 » by **mercury** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 9:11 pm

^ The reason we care is the potential of another wasted 1st rounder... I say play the hell outta the kid... if we lose more games that's not so bad... one last ditch effort to get value back for his expiring next year.

JD43320 · Post #13 » by **JD43320** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 10:06 pm

He's a wasted pick. Time to get over it and start the healing process. Seek counseling if you need it. For years we whined about coaches who handed out PT to guys that didn't earn it. Daye has earned his seat on the bench with his stupid and lazy play. He's shown no effort to improve himself in 3 years. Nothing is going to change with him. He is what he is (a POS). He belongs on the bench.

retrolenny · Post #14 » by **retrolenny** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 10:29 pm

JD43320 wrote:He's a wasted pick. Time to get over it and start the healing process. Seek counseling if you need it. For years we whined about coaches who handed out PT to guys that didn't earn it. Daye has earned his seat on the bench with his stupid and lazy play. He's shown no effort to improve himself in 3 years. Nothing is going to change with him. He is what he is (a POS). He belongs on the bench.

VERY harsh!! Daye was our best player during preseason. He was blocking shots and shooting the lights out of the ball. I'm not sure why such a stark contrast in his ability since preseason. I had an enormous concern regarding his ability to handle the ball and was never crazy about his style of play but when on, Daye is a freak of nature as a shooter. He obviously lost his mojo and his confidence. I think he might need a hypnotist or a shrink to pull him out from 6 feet under but the truth of the matter is he deserves to be a cheer leader and not as a Piston but as a fan in the stands. I certainly hope he can turn it around and make himself productive somewhere but it appears to me he has outstayed his welcome here!!!

ComboGuardCity · Post #15 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Sun Mar 4, 2012 10:39 pm

After Damien Wilkin's game yesterday, Daye might have another shot at getting back into the rotation.

chrbal · Post #16 » by **chrbal** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 5:36 pm

retrolenny wrote:VERY harsh!! Daye was our best player during preseason. He was blocking shots and shooting the lights out of the ball. I'm not sure why such a stark contrast in his ability since preseason.

Google Nikoloz Tskitshvili Preseason 2004. If I remember correctly he did something like 20 pts a game in preseason and was still horrible afterwards.

As far as Daye, I say we ride this out until 2013s' trade deadline. He hasn't figured it out by then, move on.

retrolenny · Post #17 » by **retrolenny** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 7:57 pm

chrbal wrote:
retrolenny wrote:VERY harsh!! Daye was our best player during preseason. He was blocking shots and shooting the lights out of the ball. I'm not sure why such a stark contrast in his ability since preseason.

Google Nikoloz Tskitshvili Preseason 2004. If I remember correctly he did something like 20 pts a game in preseason and was still horrible afterwards.

As far as Daye, I say we ride this out until 2013s' trade deadline. He hasn't figured it out by then, move on.

I think that's a bad idea. We are a crap team now and Daye can't even crack the lineup on a bad team. If I was Frank I would be giving Daye some serious pt from now until the end of the year. It's not like we're playing for a playoff birth. Let's see what the kid is worth and just don't let him dribble the ball. Set him up for the 3 or the open J and let's see if he can show he was worth a 1st round pick instead of a bust..

chrbal · Post #18 » by **chrbal** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 8:13 pm

What kind of trade value do you think Daye has? By himself and included with other players. Because the answer is basically none. The Pistons aren't going to just hand him playing time. If he has any intelligence he would hire a personal trainer to get him up to about 230-240.

As far as just handing him unearned playing time. After the crazy game vs Miami, he got good minutes in about 7 games straight and gradually his play went down. Daye is not going to figure it out if the Pistons hand him playing time, plus thats a horrible lesson; " you shoot about 30% from the field, but lets see what you can do anyway"

Post #19 » by **Cowology** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:01 pm

I got no problems throwing Daye in as sweetener in a bigger deal, but by himself he doesn't have enough value to warrant making a trade. Might as well hang onto him and hope he pans out. Which also means you might as well play him ahead of Wilkins, who is nothing more than a decent practice squad guy.

But I still think he completely sucks and want him off the roster.

Sort · Post #20 » by **Sort** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:55 pm

The more you play Daye, the less trade potential he'll have. Honestly, he'll be gone from this league in three years. Someone will pick him up just because he does have a sweet looking shot, but it won't take long for that to fall short. Partial blame goes to Dumars for drafting someone on talent instead of heart, and then allowing so much dysfunction to happen these last few years.