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Re: Sell High on Pekovic? 

Post#61 » by Saltine » Mon Mar 5, 2012 8:44 pm

Viljanen wrote:What I´m not sure now is what will happen next year and in what position is Minnesota to resign him. It´s quite clear that to keep the core Rubio/Love/Pekovic/D.Williams(?), the salary cap will have to be well exceeded.


Pek is signed next season for $4,837,200, and his QO for the following season is $6,046,500. He isn't going anywhere or getting expensive for some time.

Williams is here for at least 4 more years;
$4,809,840 - 2012/13
$5,016,960 - 2013/14 - Team Option
$6,331,404 - 2014/15 - Team Option
$8,262,482 - 2015/16 - Qualifying Option

Rubio is in the same position;
$3,741,120 - 2012/13
$4,002,120 - 2013/14 - Team Option
$5,070,686 - 2014/15 - Team Option
$6,723,730 - 2015/16 - Qualifying Option

Love is the expensive one;
$14,150,000 - 2012/13
$15,211,250 - 2013/14
$16,272,500 - 2014/15
$17,333,750 - 2015/16 - Player Early Termination Option

That is only $28 million for those 4 next season. Not too bad :)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... _US&gid=19

I think the minutes and lack of rest, plus his recent illness with the flu, and also his bout the stomach flu, have more to do with Love's shot not being great. I wouldn't call that struggling, it's pretty normal over the course of a season. He is playing great most of the time, so is Pek.
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Re: Sell High on Pekovic? 

Post#62 » by Worm Guts » Mon Mar 5, 2012 8:47 pm

Saltine wrote:
Viljanen wrote:What I´m not sure now is what will happen next year and in what position is Minnesota to resign him. It´s quite clear that to keep the core Rubio/Love/Pekovic/D.Williams(?), the salary cap will have to be well exceeded.


Pek is signed next season for $4,837,200, and his QO for the following season is $6,046,500. He isn't going anywhere or getting expensive for some time.



Pek is cheap for one more year. The qualifying offer just means he's a restricted free agent and we can match any offer. He's going to be expensive if he keeps playing at a high level.
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Re: Sell High on Pekovic? 

Post#63 » by Richard Miller » Mon Mar 5, 2012 9:09 pm

Klomp wrote:Guys, I wasn't saying Love is having a bad year. You can't deny that he had been struggling with his shot.

Prior to last game, in his 5 previous games, Love was just 29-97 (29.9%) from the field. That is struggling.


How is that Pek's fault btw? Love shoots better when Pek is on the bench? :)
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Post#64 » by skorff26 » Tue Mar 6, 2012 5:08 pm

No, unless like with any other player... the offer is to good to refuse.

Unless we get offered a superstar or top tier young SG, I would not move him.
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Re: Sell High on Pekovic? 

Post#65 » by skorff26 » Tue Mar 6, 2012 5:14 pm

Viljanen wrote:This said, I think that Pek has more value for us than trade value for the rest odf the teams. What I´m not sure now is what will happen next year and in what position is Minnesota to resign him. It´s quite clear that to keep the core Rubio/Love/Pekovic/D.Williams(?), the salary cap will have to be well exceeded. Can this market justify such a big investment? i suppose it will if the team is good enough, but I don´t know much about these things. As an example, Memphis could have a contending team the following 2 or 3 years but, instead of keeping the core and adding a littele buit more spark from the bench, they´re trying to trade Mayo for cheap role players not to pay luxury tax next year.

Then almost anyone we trade for Pek will end up costing just as much (I guess we could trade him for a draft pick then the question is who from the draft class are we willing to move him for?) only other option then a draft pick really is to just dump Pek for nothing since anyone else would give us salary problems a few years down the line, I'd much rather have him the next few years and maybe make a tough decision then.
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Re: Sell High on Pekovic? 

Post#66 » by Klomp » Tue Mar 6, 2012 6:06 pm

BTW even though I said I'm not sure about having Pek in our "Big 3", I'd rather have Pek making $4.5m in our big 3 than having DeAndre Jordan making $10m in the Clippers' big 3.
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Re: Sell High on Pekovic? 

Post#67 » by Viljanen » Tue Mar 6, 2012 8:02 pm

skorff26 wrote:
Viljanen wrote:This said, I think that Pek has more value for us than trade value for the rest odf the teams. What I´m not sure now is what will happen next year and in what position is Minnesota to resign him. It´s quite clear that to keep the core Rubio/Love/Pekovic/D.Williams(?), the salary cap will have to be well exceeded. Can this market justify such a big investment? i suppose it will if the team is good enough, but I don´t know much about these things. As an example, Memphis could have a contending team the following 2 or 3 years but, instead of keeping the core and adding a littele buit more spark from the bench, they´re trying to trade Mayo for cheap role players not to pay luxury tax next year.

Then almost anyone we trade for Pek will end up costing just as much (I guess we could trade him for a draft pick then the question is who from the draft class are we willing to move him for?) only other option then a draft pick really is to just dump Pek for nothing since anyone else would give us salary problems a few years down the line, I'd much rather have him the next few years and maybe make a tough decision then.



Yeah, I basically agree. II would really prefer Pek than almost any pick we could get for him.

Just being curious, to keep the line of this thread... would you guys rather keep Pek and paying him something around 11-13M/year or change him for a guy like D.Granger (12M) and use a defensive (cheap) center like Milicic? I know this is just rubish and Indiana wouldn´t need a Center apart from Hibert. Just wondering.
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Re: Sell High on Pekovic? 

Post#68 » by phonzadellika » Tue Mar 6, 2012 9:07 pm

The only Pek trade I'd probably personally endorse would be Pek trade for a signed-for-$12m-per-year Batum. I'd be ok with that.
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Post#69 » by moss_is_1 » Tue Mar 6, 2012 9:14 pm

phonzadellika wrote:The only Pek trade I'd probably personally endorse would be Pek trade for a signed-for-$12m-per-year Batum. I'd be ok with that.
:-? yuck.
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Post#70 » by Narf » Tue Mar 6, 2012 9:42 pm

I'd rather keep Pek and sign Courtney Lee for $7 mil a year than trade good assets for $12 mil a year Batum.

The only Pek trade that really makes sense to me is Pek + Williams + our picks for a signed Dwight Howard.
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Re: Sell High on Pekovic? 

Post#71 » by Krapinsky » Tue Mar 6, 2012 10:38 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:
phonzadellika wrote:The only Pek trade I'd probably personally endorse would be Pek trade for a signed-for-$12m-per-year Batum. I'd be ok with that.
:-? yuck.


I'd be okay paying Batum $12M/year, but I'm not going to also trade Pekovic for that opportunity.

And no thanks for $7M/yr for Courtney Lee.
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Re: Sell High on Pekovic? 

Post#72 » by barickiza » Tue Mar 6, 2012 10:48 pm

I am a big fan of Partizan (Pekovic team in Europe) I follow him for several years. In Europe he had a different role, playing less games, every game is important, the pressure higher, he just needed some time to come into the rhythm.
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Post#73 » by C.lupus » Wed Mar 7, 2012 12:13 am

Krapinsky wrote:
moss_is_1 wrote:
phonzadellika wrote:The only Pek trade I'd probably personally endorse would be Pek trade for a signed-for-$12m-per-year Batum. I'd be ok with that.
:-? yuck.


I'd be okay paying Batum $12M/year, but I'm not going to also trade Pekovic for that opportunity.

And no thanks for $7M/yr for Courtney Lee.

Yeah, I don't even know why we would need to have a trade involved in Batum. If Portland wants to match $12 million, more power to them. He isn't worth that anyway.
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Re: Sell High on Pekovic? 

Post#74 » by miltk » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:43 am

isn't half the wolves roster built on "potential"??
or to put it another way, would you keep 2 pair, or try drawing to a straight.

one problem with the nba is that everyone is infatuated with potential. great if you catch that straight but how often does that happen.
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Post#75 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:47 pm

Don't shoot the messanger. But on the Bucks board there's a "rumor" that there's an offer out there of Pek and Williams for Bogut. Come on over and discuss/rip.
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Post#76 » by guille_4 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:57 pm

DrugBust wrote:Don't shoot the messanger. But on the Bucks board there's a "rumor" that there's an offer out there of Pek and Williams for Bogut. Come on over and discuss/rip.


Kahn would get shot if he pulled that. I'm not sure I'd do Pek for Bogut, let alone both him and Williams. Bogut is more expensive, more injury prone and older.
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Re: Sell High on Pekovic? 

Post#77 » by Marley2Hendrix » Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:10 pm

guille_4 wrote:
DrugBust wrote:Don't shoot the messanger. But on the Bucks board there's a "rumor" that there's an offer out there of Pek and Williams for Bogut. Come on over and discuss/rip.


Kahn would get shot if he pulled that. I'm not sure I'd do Pek for Bogut, let alone both him and Williams. Bogut is more expensive, more injury prone and older.


As an outsider to this board, agreed 100%. Pek alone has >>> value than Bogut.
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Post#78 » by C.lupus » Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:17 pm

Yep, that isn't happening.
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Post#79 » by Devilzsidewalk » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:13 pm

then trade Love for Oden and pick up Jonathan Bender and Roy and we're set
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