Random Thoughts XI

[Vertical Limit]

Yeah it is but what ever, I also broke the ToS or what ever they call it by making a multiple account and the cool Heat mods here helped keep me here with the condition I will be permanently banned from the GB.

But what triggered the ban in the first place was a harmless joke after Noah racked up 10 assists or so for the Bulls. Seriously didn't think it was worth a warning nor ban, and not cool I had to miss out a night of Knicks bashing after we kicked their asses.

[Vertical Limit]

Anyways, Peyton to Miami!

[Heat3]

I'm quite conflicted...

Part of me is sad for Colts fans. I hated the idea of Marino not being allowed to finish on his own terms and possibly going to Minny.

Another part of me makes me angry at the clowns running the Dolphins. We could have had Luck but no they had to on and try to win. When a team that has Peyton Manning is practically throwing him away for Luck but our sorry sack of an org is content with being mediocre.

Now what are we hoping for? To take their scraps

At the same time...hell yeah lets get Peyton! Don't care if it's one or two years of glory before we go back to sucking again.

Then to tie it into the Heat. People bash the Big 3 for taking their future into their own hands. Look at what loyalty got Peyton from the Colts....

[Vertical Limit]

Well, I blame Sparano and all the desperate losers trying to win meaningless games to save their jobs. At 0-7, you should fire everyone, demand Pat Devlin the starter and let him tank us to a Top 2 pick.

I think RGIII and Luck aren't that far apart. Luck is more polished but RGIII is most talented.

[Heat3]

Well, I blame Sparano and all the desperate losers trying to win meaningless games to save their jobs. At 0-7, you should fire everyone, demand Pat Devlin the starter and let him tank us to a Top 2 pick.

I think RGIII and Luck aren't that far apart. Luck is more polished but RGIII is most talented.

but there are reports that the Dolphins won't trade for the #2 pick because the owner now has a personal vendetta against Fisher. Sad part is I believe it!

[WD]

OT - Can't wait to see who the Dolphins get this off season

[ScreaminCmen]

Here goes the dolphins fans grabing someone's leftovers only to get their hopes snatched away

[GreenHat]

I'm quite conflicted...

Part of me is sad for Colts fans. I hated the idea of Marino not being allowed to finish on his own terms and possibly going to Minny.

Another part of me makes me angry at the clowns running the Dolphins. We could have had Luck but no they had to on and try to win. When a team that has Peyton Manning is practically throwing him away for Luck but our sorry sack of an org is content with being mediocre.

Now what are we hoping for? To take their scraps

At the same time...hell yeah lets get Peyton! Don't care if it's one or two years of glory before we go back to sucking again.

Then to tie it into the Heat. People bash the Big 3 for taking their future into their own hands. Look at what loyalty got Peyton from the Colts....

In reality the Dolphins were much BETTER than they showed in the beginning of the season, they were just unucky (You could tell by their early season point differential). There was no way they were going to keep up that bad of a pace.

And you can't really expect players/coaches to lose on purpose. Its a lot easier to tank in basketball because you can just like sit Wade. You can't really do that in football because there are so many players.

[HeatFanSince87]

Love our teams closeness...


"Family comes first before anything. He was able to come back today and that's when we want him back," teammate LeBron James said. "Before, if he wasn't ready, we didn't want him back."

"Very good to see him," Heat guard Dwyane Wade said Tuesday morning after Miami's game-day shootaround practice. "You realize how much you missed the guy. Had a little bromance moment for a minute. Wanted to hug him. But I didn't. I kept it cool."

"These are my guys," Bosh said. "We're all family here. It's just really good to be back."

[GreenHat]

You watch interviews on the guy and you would know he does what his coaches ask him to do, he's not chucking away on his own terms. They want him to be a scoring threat off the bench.

And yes he has the right attitude for this team, he's already a very good defensive point guard, he is only a rookie, he will learn and fit better with us after having a real offseason. Kid only had like 4 days training camp with this team. How many practice days have we had so far this season? 3? Give him some slack, he's been very good despite so many roadblocks.

I think you are projecting a lot when you say you can tell by his interviews that he has the right attitude for the team.

I also find it hard to believe that the best offense in the league is asking their 8th man to chuck away inefficiently when they have so many much more efficient options. That makes no sense at all.

I also don't understand your use of "very good". You say Cole is a very good defensive point guard but he hasn't been this year. He's been a typical rookie point guard maybe even a little below average, I don't see the very good defender part.

And you're definitely overrating him to say he's been "very good" overall. Who counts as just "good" for you? What has Kyrie Irving or Rubio been if Cole has been "very good"?


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He will be fine. I still like him as defense off the bench especially in relief of Chalmers.

Again this makes no sense since Chalmers has been much better than him on defense.

I honestly wonder what you guys (not you specifically VL) watch on defense to think Cole is better than Chalmers, Miller is average but Jones is below average and Battier/Anthony aren't great defenders

[GreenHat]

Not gonna lie, my understanding of the term "DST" was not clear so my original post wasn't phrased well. After doing some Wikipedia-ing I think we are on the same page.

DST or "Summer Time" is good. It's the fall time change that I don't like. Bush (Not even close to being a fan of his) extended DST by 4 weeks in total. So yeah, I'd love for DST to be made even longer.

Not sure what you mean by that lol.

They have to push the time back in the fall otherwise after a few years the time would be way off.

Basically if you like the forward hour you have to also have the back hour (and vice versa) otherwise the system doesn't really work.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you though.

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RE: Cole...

Chalmers has shown who the better player is at this point and deserves more minutes. Cole will get better but it'll take a while. His shot mechanics are good but he needs to become a more consistent shooter and take better shots. An off-season of training, plus a "normal" season with proper practices will do him good. I still wouldn't mind us looking for a vet PG just for this season. It's not required though. Like VL said, at least he plays defense.
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I still don't get the consensus that Cole is a good defender. To me he is average and possibly below. People just like him and he's quick so they think he's better than he is.

[GreenHat]

I still believe in Cole. Kid has the right attitude and he's in the right organization to cultivate it. Just needs to keep working, improve on the mental aspect of the game. In the offseason he'll have time to work on his NBA range and beef up a little.

Dex...eh. Just doesn't seem to be very skilled at all around the hoop.

I think most people just claim someone has "the right attitude" if they like them.

If anything I believe Cole has the wrong attitude for this team. He has a shoot first mentality which is the opposite of what we would want from a point guard, especially one who can't shoot.

I think you are misunderstanding what I meant by attitude. By attitude I mean work ethic, desire to get better, tenacity, love of the game, having a good head on your shoulders, etc. Just generally being a positive, strong-willed kind of guy.

I don't mean his basketball tendencies. That's something entirely different. And yes, I believe that he does need to improve the basketball aspect of "attitude." Needs to improve his shot selection and expand his game a lot, among other things.

Really, the distinction between the two "attitudes" is that one in the former paragraph is something you are born with, something you come into the league with, something that usually cannot be changed (think Beasley, Cousins). The latter is something that can improve in time.

That's kind of my point. You're attaching all of those good qualities to Cole based on what exactly?

For all we know he could be lazy, not care about getting better, gives up easily, hates basketball, doesn't have a good head on his shoulders, is always negative and is weak-willed.

I have only slightly less evidence that he is those things than you do for your list.

I could also say he's selfish (8 shots on crappy efficiency in only 20 mins a game) and wants too much glory.

See how easy it is to attach traits to someone with little evidence?

Again I think people just say that players they like have "good attitudes"

You like Cole therefore you will project all of these positive traits onto him and give him the benefit of the doubt on the negative things.

For example I am pretty sure Demarcus Cousins is a little bit farther down your list of favorite players from Cole

Someone who likes Cousins would say he is tenacious (you don't average 4.6 orb in less than 30 mins without getting after it), wants to get better (he's improved from last year), is a gym rat (he's in much better shape), wants to win (he chose Kentucky), doesn't mind sharing the spotlight (again went to Kentucky who had other stars), doesn't have that big of an ego (joined a team with the #1 prospect, when he would have been the best player on almost any other team)

But you don't like him as much so you just see the negative aspects.

That's my point, all of this pseudo-psychology and character analysis based on a couple of short interviews is bunk and driven mainly by how much we like the player.

[DefenseWins]

I got banned because some sensitive Bulls mod got mad that I called Joakim Noah the best option at PG for the Bulls and they said something that little is "baiting".

Yes, a small joke like that is SOOO baiting. But when people want to talk **** about Lebron's mom, Lebron's 4th quarter problems, Chris Bosh's personality, Wade's personality, it's all fine and good to them.

Can't talk about King Rose in the GB. So watch out.

this is old but I saw even a Knicks fan complaining saying you can say this and that, but you get banned for saying Rose is a SG. LMAO this stuff must be true. It's a bit sad and hilarious at the same time.

[Vertical Limit]

Philbin go get your quarterback!!!