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Re: Nash to Orlando rumors thread 

Post#41 » by Kerrsed » Tue Mar 6, 2012 5:20 am

sunsfan88 wrote:Do you guys think we can trade Nash/Hill to Philly and get Young/Holliday/Allen back? Fillers included?


I doubt it. 2 reasons.

1. Philly loves Holiday. The FO, the coach, everybody. I cant blame them. Thad has been having a break out year as well. He's really picked up his scoring, picked up his rebounding, and picked up his defense this year as well.

2. Money doesnt match up at all what so ever. In order to make a Nash/Hill trade work (close to what you had), it would have to be Nash/Hill for Holiday/Young/Nocioni. I loathe Noc. Hate him with a passion. No way would i want him nor his over-inflated contract near this team.
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Re: Nash to Orlando rumors thread 

Post#42 » by Kerrsed » Tue Mar 6, 2012 5:25 am

Philly scares me, because i could see the Suns FO making a deal with them like
Morris/Dudley/Lopez/Brown for Iggy, then sell the fans on how its not a rebuild, it a reload. :roll:

And knowing the FO, we would probably roll with a Nash/Redd/Hill/Iggy/Gortat lineup. :x
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Re: Nash to Orlando rumors thread 

Post#43 » by DirtyDez » Tue Mar 6, 2012 5:39 am

I think Iggy was more of a Kerr guy, but yeah a move similar to that wouldn't surprise me. As i said before we don't have basketball guys running this team.
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Re: Nash to Orlando rumors thread 

Post#44 » by Frank Lee » Tue Mar 6, 2012 1:20 pm

GrantHill wrote:Redick's next year is unguaranteed so is has basically an expiring contract.


Ugh... thats why I hate playing the trade game. Out of habit I check Hoopshype, but they are apparently inaccurate.



It is still a debate with those who are hellbent on dealing Nash for something/anything and those who would keep him/sign him.

I of course, am of the latter faction, but acknowledge the possibilities of trading him.

I however, do not think it is worth absorbing bad contracts that effect next yrs Free Agency / trade flexibility just to glean a late pick. The odds say that rookie will be a marginal contributor at best. That is factual evidence outlined a couple of times on this board.

I would much rather wait until draft day and then see who is willing to barter with their bad deals for picks.
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Re: Nash to Orlando rumors thread 

Post#45 » by YFZblu » Tue Mar 6, 2012 1:26 pm

Frank Lee wrote:
If Nash walks, he walks. But he goes clean.


Part of me agrees with this. The other part will look back and be pissed that Phoenix let Amar'e Stoudemire and Steve Nash dissolve into thin air, with nothing in return.
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Re: Nash to Orlando rumors thread 

Post#46 » by Frank Lee » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:09 pm

I am sure, as Stat did, Nash would accommodate a TPE coming back to us.
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Re: Nash to Orlando rumors thread 

Post#47 » by Revived » Wed Mar 7, 2012 12:08 am

Kerrsed wrote:
sunsfan88 wrote:Do you guys think we can trade Nash/Hill to Philly and get Young/Holliday/Allen back? Fillers included?


I doubt it. 2 reasons.

1. Philly loves Holiday. The FO, the coach, everybody. I cant blame them. Thad has been having a break out year as well. He's really picked up his scoring, picked up his rebounding, and picked up his defense this year as well.

2. Money doesnt match up at all what so ever. In order to make a Nash/Hill trade work (close to what you had), it would have to be Nash/Hill for Holiday/Young/Nocioni. I loathe Noc. Hate him with a passion. No way would i want him nor his over-inflated contract near this team.

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Re: Nash to Orlando rumors thread 

Post#48 » by Cash » Wed Mar 7, 2012 8:50 pm

YFZblu wrote:
Frank Lee wrote:
If Nash walks, he walks. But he goes clean.


Part of me agrees with this. The other part will look back and be pissed that Phoenix let Amar'e Stoudemire and Steve Nash dissolve into thin air, with nothing in return.


I get where that second part is coming from, but try to remind it that getting crap in return (from worst to best: bad contracts, expirings, late picks) is hardly better (and sometimes worse) than getting an extra 25ish games of Nash and then getting nothing. In fact, as FrankLee pointed out, there's a strong chance that Nash could leave in a sign & trade anyway, which would grant at least a TPE and maybe also one of those late picks we're talking about dealing him for now.

The Amare situation is a little tougher, since the Suns probably could've gotten something of real value for him, but I don't begrudge them hanging on for another run with Amare instead of bailing out. In any case, I've yet to see a Nash trade scenario that results in the Suns getting back either a likely lotto pick or a player with legitimate star potential. (Well, except trades proposed by Suns homers, of course.) I'd rather lose Nash for nothing than trade him for junk. I'm more torn about the more realistic scenario of Nash + Chilly/Warrick for nothing, because that scenario actually gives some justification for the trade. But frankly, I think FrankLee's posts in this thread convinced me that it's still not worth it.
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Re: Nash to Orlando rumors thread 

Post#49 » by nevetsov » Thu Mar 8, 2012 9:21 am

Wow, a rare Cash sighting :)

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