Who would play at 3? Hedo, Ariza or Beasley?
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KingRobb02 wrote:We make out worst in that trade. Hinrich is worthless at this point, and the hawks would rather let him expire than to take on Big Baby when Al Horford will be back next year. The Wolves won't have a need for Richardson if the rumored, Ridnour for Crawford deal happens. Redick and Beas aren't enough to make the Jazz bite.
Wow, no offense, but you've got to kidding - we get by far the best player in the deal. We'd be nuts not to make this trade, if everyone else would only agree.
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KingRobb02 wrote:magicfan84 wrote:^^ The idea of the Wolves wanting JRich over Beasley is that Derrick Williams is basically the same type player as Beasley and with Rubio hitting JRich for open shots he would be great for them as a bigger spot up shooter who can make the 3 ball on a consistent basis.
Beasely is shooting 42% on 3s, do you think J-Rich is a better option? Or is it just that you think the "SG" next to his name makes him a better fit. They want a creator, and J-Rich isn't that.
As a spot up shooter I do think JRich is the better more consistent shooter. And the problem is Beasley is almost a redundant talent with D Williams and Beas cant play the 2 whereas Rich can. So yes the sg next to his name does make him a better fit with the TWolves
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Beasley is talented... but he's in his 4th year now... I don't know if he's ever going to "get it"
... I don't want to give up Ryan Anderson for him... Minny already has Love and Pekovic.
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JRich/Duhon and a 2013 unprotected 2nd for Beasley and Ridnour.

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DJRajX wrote:Beasley is talented... but he's in his 4th year now... I don't know if he's ever going to "get it"... I don't want to give up Ryan Anderson for him... Minny already has Love and Pekovic.
Yeah, definitely not worth to give up Ryan for Beasly.
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DJRajX wrote:Beasley is talented... but he's in his 4th year now... I don't know if he's ever going to "get it"... I don't want to give up Ryan Anderson for him... Minny already has Love and Pekovic.
Anderson would never be traded for Beasley.
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DJRajX wrote:Beasley is talented... but he's in his 4th year now... I don't know if he's ever going to "get it"... I don't want to give up Ryan Anderson for him... Minny already has Love and Pekovic.
No one would trade Ryan for him, we would send Jrich or JJ, and remember, they were asking for a 1st from LAL for him, so they wont require much for him from us.
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InFlames wrote:DJRajX wrote:Beasley is talented... but he's in his 4th year now... I don't know if he's ever going to "get it"... I don't want to give up Ryan Anderson for him... Minny already has Love and Pekovic.
Anderson would never be traded for Beasley.
I would hope not
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RickB-Orlando wrote:KingRobb02 wrote:We make out worst in that trade. Hinrich is worthless at this point, and the hawks would rather let him expire than to take on Big Baby when Al Horford will be back next year. The Wolves won't have a need for Richardson if the rumored, Ridnour for Crawford deal happens. Redick and Beas aren't enough to make the Jazz bite.
Wow, no offense, but you've got to kidding - we get by far the best player in the deal. We'd be nuts not to make this trade, if everyone else would only agree.
Always getting the best player in the trade was Isaiah Thomas's plan. That never seemed to work out for him. Having backup PF and C would be greatly important, I'm sorry.
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magicfan84 wrote:KingRobb02 wrote:magicfan84 wrote:^^ The idea of the Wolves wanting JRich over Beasley is that Derrick Williams is basically the same type player as Beasley and with Rubio hitting JRich for open shots he would be great for them as a bigger spot up shooter who can make the 3 ball on a consistent basis.
Beasely is shooting 42% on 3s, do you think J-Rich is a better option? Or is it just that you think the "SG" next to his name makes him a better fit. They want a creator, and J-Rich isn't that.
As a spot up shooter I do think JRich is the better more consistent shooter. And the problem is Beasley is almost a redundant talent with D Williams and Beas cant play the 2 whereas Rich can. So yes the sg next to his name does make him a better fit with the TWolves
So a guy has a better 3PT% than Richardson's FG% and you won't acknowledge that he may be the better shooter? Beas and Williams are redundant like Igoudala and Turner. they play the same position, but that doesn't mean you trade get rid of one for nothing. The Wolves are a young team, they know Richardson is not a long term solution for them. Hitching themselves to him for 3 more years is not in their plan. They either want a pick or a young guy like OJ Mayo.
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BOOM!!!!!!
J rich,Fran,bbd(or Hedo) for beasly darko
J rich,Fran,bbd(or Hedo) for beasly darko
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What are the career 3pt% and I am sure JRich is much more consistent and takes many more attempts, also hes only 30 and on a contract thats less per year than Beasleys QO next season, I understand he is the more talented player but still fit accounts for something and the TWolves have been playing Ridnour at the 2 spot and Rich is a major upgrade from him at the 2.
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KingRobb02 wrote:Here's how we make out worst.
if Josh so much as sprains an ankle, Dwight and Ryan are playing 48 mins. Hinrich can't be counted on to play more than 10 mins right now (he does, and it's killing them), how can he be a starter for us? You make our guard rotation worse while sapping the front court of ANY depth.
From the Hawks perspective, they know they can't compete this year, which is why they won't rush Al back from injury. Also, any trade they make will also try to dump Marvin Williams. If Josh and Marvin for Carmelo is really on the table (doubtful) why not jump on that instead?
The Jazz can get more for Al than JJ and Beasely. The motto in this league is never to trade big for small. They definitely say no.
If you don't like me saying the Wolves won't need Richardson if XXXX, then how about the Wolves just don't want Richardson? There are better, younger SG to be had. If they just want scoring, they can just keep Beas.
If BBD so much as sprains an ankle, Dwight and Ryan are playing 48 mins. where's the "depth" i'm "sapping" with this deal?? we end up in the same position, with a player who's going to make a much more dramatic impact on the front court than BBD, even if Dwight's on the bench.
I'm sure the Hawks take the best offer available, if they're looking to move Smith. are better offers on the table, though? (haha, i'm completely aware this is a fictional trade idea)
What more can the Jazz get that teams are willing to give up, though? It's hard for me to argue, because I, personally, think Jefferson is a good talent. BUT, general consensus is he's inefficient, overrated, puts up big numbers on a bad team and not worth his contract. AND, Jazz got him for a TPE. you may not trade big for small, but if the bar has been set at big for nothing, then you kinda know what you're looking at.
Better, younger SG's, yet the deal they're currently looking at is for Jamal Crawford? he's better, albeit slightly, and that's only because he can create his own shot. at this point, i think the Twolves know they're on the cusp of making the playoffs and need a SG to run next to Rubio. who better than JRich, who's had experience running with the best PG in the game?? an Beasley's 3pt% is misleading. if he were a true 40% shooter, he'd have the greenlight to take a whole lot more.
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Look beasly is a small move if we get beasly were not gonna stop there...if we get beasly though I think there is a better shot at nash rather than monta
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Orton is a piece in the offer the magic will make for Beaseley, but 4 a trade to happen Minny would have to take back guys like duhon.
Orton is a piece in the offer the magic will make for Beaseley, but 4 a trade to happen Minny would have to take back guys like duhon.
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So, we went from wanting CP3, then moved to DWill, then moved to Monta, then Nash, back to Monta, then reality hits and we're going to try and get Beasley to save the franchise.
WE ARE IN BIG TROUBLE.
WE ARE IN BIG TROUBLE.

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If the Magic decide to trade Dwight Howard, sources close to the center believe it'll be to a team that'll rent him, not a team on his list
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With that said, the Magic haven't given any indication that they're ready to move Howard. It's very possible they'll keep him past March 15.
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From what I hear, the Houston Rockets and Golden State Warriors are among the teams willing to trade for Dwight Howard as a rental.












