Official thread for hypothetical FA and D-league ideas

[TheProfessor]

Okay I dont seem to understand the thinking here, people on this board are reluctant to pay 13m to Harden but yet are willing to trade for Rudy Gay??

I dont mind throwing money at Harden but Rudy Gay is legit too though, he is a borderline all star SF. I totally understand why people want him on our team.

I dont want to derail the thread but really 15m for a player with a TS of 51.3% really, I understand Rudy does play good defense, but still 5/75m for a guy that shoots below the league average of 52.4%(TS) this season. He is a good player, but I would rather not deal with Memphis's mess.He's not exactly a young prospect as he turns 26 soon.

[SkywalkerAC]

Harden is not gettable. Everyone on this board needs to stop posting about him.

Max out EG? I guess the Hornets might not match but that's a questionable deal to be sure. Not sure he's a better two-way player than WC.

[TheProfessor]

Harden is not gettable. Everyone on this board needs to stop posting about him.

Max out EG? I guess the Hornets might not match but that's a questionable deal to be sure. Not sure he's a better two-way player than WC.

pretty sure if we max out harden okc cant do anything.

[JamesNaismith]

As for Gordon, he's not for me. He's too small for the 2.

Couldnt disagree more.

Gordon is strong enough, quick enough and has long enough arms to defend other SGs. I have never heard of him struggling to guard his position and on the flip side other SGs have had a hard time defending Gordon.

[bigbadstevenson]

Terrible comparison...Harden can be much better then Barbosa is.


I would also be very reluctant to give Harden $13mill/yr BUT I would be willing to pay him slightly more then Bargnani if that's what it took to get him on our roster. You're talking about a guy that could probably average 23-24ppg at the level of a Ginobilli and is still young and going into his prime.

He will demand more then Bargnani and his paygrade will be in the neighborhood of Noah, Horford and Rondo who are ALL getting $11+ mill/yr. Also keep in mind that this is the FIRST season people have actually thought Bargnani has been considered to actually be WORTH his contract. Rewind this board to last year and everyone is claiming he's overpaid.

**to the OP....this board ALWAYS talks about these 2 btw, you just clearly haven't looked.

Than.

Than!

THAN!!!!!

[SkywalkerAC]

Harden is not gettable. Everyone on this board needs to stop posting about him.

Max out EG? I guess the Hornets might not match but that's a questionable deal to be sure. Not sure he's a better two-way player than WC.

pretty sure if we max out harden okc cant do anything.

pretty sure they could just match. and would.

[timdunkit]

You'd probably have a higher chance of trading for Harden then signing him out right.

Presti is smart and he'll know OKC's budget in terms of resigning Harden. He'll want to sign Harden before he hits the market because if Harden hit the market, he'd get close to the max. If he can't come to an agreement with Harden, I'd expect a trade.

Its totally possible that Presti lets Harden hit the open market but it would be a really dumb move if the organization isn't ready to match everything.

That saying, if your going to pay Harden 13-15 mill a year, your hoping that he is lead-guard material. I think he'll be an excellent #2 option. He's a high efficiency player (lots of PnRs, drives or takes a ton of 3s) but he has a weak midrange game.

[TheProfessor]

Harden is not gettable. Everyone on this board needs to stop posting about him.

Max out EG? I guess the Hornets might not match but that's a questionable deal to be sure. Not sure he's a better two-way player than WC.

pretty sure if we max out harden okc cant do anything.

pretty sure they could just match. and would.

They can but I doubt they do, they would be hitting luxury tax territory.

[JamesNaismith]

Personally I love the idea of going after Harden and recommended it long time ago.

I like EG almost as much but there is no denying his injury history is a MAJOR concern. Even though I dont think he is going to have such a severe injury that he is not the same; I do not like the thought of paying a ton for a guy who misses good chunks of various seasons.

If we somehow fluked into the area of drafting Barnes...or even MKG; under Casey`s system that would be a helluva tough, young team.

FA
Harden
Barnes or MKG
Bargnani
Valanciunas

Fap! fap! lol

[SkywalkerAC]

They can but I doubt they do, they would be hitting luxury tax territory.

They're gunning for a championship, they should be prepared to pay the tax.

[Throwback24]

I'd give up DD for harden any day of the week and twice on sunday. As for Gordon, he's not for me. He's too small for the 2.

What? Gordons the better player, and by better I mean in nearly all facets of the game. What's not to like? I'm also talking about his defense which goes against your point of him being too small to guard opposing 2's. I've seen him guard the likes of Kobe and Wade and do an above average job of it as well.

[dTox]

I wrote this in another thread but I think is more appropriate here:

One guy I think Raps should target and is gettable: Evan Turner, I've seen enough of him to realize that he's severely being underused in Philly's system and is out of place playing next to Iggy. I think a package of Demar + filler can get it done, he's exactly the type of ball handler/play making two guard this team sorely lacks.

[TheProfessor]

You'd probably have a higher chance of trading for Harden then signing him out right.

Presti is smart and he'll know OKC's budget in terms of resigning Harden. He'll want to sign Harden before he hits the market because if Harden hit the market, he'd get close to the max. If he can't come to an agreement with Harden, I'd expect a trade.

Its totally possible that Presti lets Harden hit the open market but it would be a really dumb move if the organization isn't ready to match everything.

That saying, if your going to pay Harden 13-15 mill a year, your hoping that he is lead-guard material. I think he'll be an excellent #2 option. He's a high efficiency player (lots of PnRs, drives or takes a ton of 3s) but he has a weak midrange game.

Utah: DD,
Toronto: Harden
OKC: Millsap+ toronto top 8 protected first 2013
Get'er done BC

[JamesNaismith]

They can but I doubt they do, they would be hitting luxury tax territory.

They're gunning for a championship, they should be prepared to pay the tax.

They SHOULD be but they may not.

Keep in mind even a team like the Chicago Bulls prefers to avoid the luxury tax and they are easily a bigger market and have arguebly been closer to making it to the Finals then the Thunder have. Also its excellent having such a high calibre 6th man (who could easily be a 2nd option on almost any other roster) but how valuable that is to be determined. I actually believe their greater issue is they dont have a post scorer so teams are able to load up on the perimeter.

For example, if they had someone like Horford, Love or Aldridge I think they would be a much more serious threat to win it all (multiple times) then if they renewed Harden but thats just my 2c.

[JamesNaismith]

I wrote this in another thread but I think is more appropriate here:

One guy I think Raps should target and is gettable: Evan Turner, I've seen enough of him to realize that he's severely being underused in Philly's system and is out of place playing next to Iggy. I think a package of Demar + filler can get it done, he's exactly the type of ball handler/play making two guard this team sorely lacks.

+1000

I brought up this idea in the Trade thread a ton of times cuz I really believe he can be a STUD in this league but Collins has the weirdest beef with him. He is also an EXCELLENT rebounder for the position. I would see what Philly thinks about a deal including Davis since Brand`s contract is up this year. I like him so much that if they didnt bite at some package with Ed then I would also create a package (not just) that includes DeRozan to get him. Not only has Turner shown more skill and ability than DeMar but that he can LEAD a team and step up in the clutch.

[TheProfessor]

I wrote this in another thread but I think is more appropriate here:

One guy I think Raps should target and is gettable: Evan Turner, I've seen enough of him to realize that he's severely being underused in Philly's system and is out of place playing next to Iggy. I think a package of Demar + filler can get it done, he's exactly the type of ball handler/play making two guard this team sorely lacks.

+1000

I brought up this idea in the Trade thread a ton of times cuz I really believe he can be a STUD in this league but Collins has the weirdest beef with him. He is also an EXCELLENT rebounder for the position. I would see what Philly thinks about a deal including Davis since Brand`s contract is up this year. I like him so much that if they didnt bite at some package with Ed then I would also create a package (not just) that includes DeRozan to get him. Not only has Turner shown more skill and ability than DeMar but that he can LEAD a team and step up in the clutch.

If you play evan turner with DD we would lack perimeter shooting.

[JamesNaismith]

+1000

I brought up this idea in the Trade thread a ton of times cuz I really believe he can be a STUD in this league but Collins has the weirdest beef with him. He is also an EXCELLENT rebounder for the position. I would see what Philly thinks about a deal including Davis since Brand`s contract is up this year. I like him so much that if they didnt bite at some package with Ed then I would also create a package (not just) that includes DeRozan to get him. Not only has Turner shown more skill and ability than DeMar but that he can LEAD a team and step up in the clutch.

If you play evan turner with DD we would lack perimeter shooting.

I wouldn`t.

I would trade DeMar for him; if necessary or let DeRozan come off the bench.

[peteyjones13]

I LOVE James Harden...probably most underrated player in the league...would LOVE LOVE LOVE him as our starting 3

[DreamTeam09]

I think Harden gets way too much love around here but w/e. I can see why... As for Evan Turner, I really don't get whats that about. I wouldn't give up Demar for him at all. I personally develop a bond with all of our lotto picks except Ed Davis and thats prolly cuz of the log jam we have at the 4. But Bargs, Demar, Val, and prolly whoever we draft this yr is the squad I wanna run with..

[JamesNaismith]

I think Harden gets way too much love around here but w/e. I can see why... As for Evan Turner, I really don't get whats that about. I wouldn't give up Demar for him at all. I personally develop a bond with all of our lotto picks except Ed Davis and thats prolly cuz of the log jam we have at the 4. But Bargs, Demar, Val, and prolly whoever we draft this yr is the squad I wanna run with..

You don't hold back on trades for better talent due to personal "bonds" lol