Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 7

Indeed · Post #1021 » by **Indeed** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:53 pm

ty123 wrote:Not liking what I'm seeing from Burke right now.

They have no big to play with, which is pretty tough for Burke and Hardaway Jr.

nahom1319 · Post #1022 » by **nahom1319** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:58 pm

highness wrote:Is this a NBA draft thread or an anti Demar thread?

Don't they go hand in hand? :wink:

JamesNaismith · Post #1023 » by **JamesNaismith** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:24 pm

LOL at posters that were so adament that Davis was Camby 2.0

I told you he had MUCH more offensive game...

He's hitting 3s and creating more; all things you could see in his highschool days and he does it with ease. Said way before the problem was Callipari NOT Davis. He didn't know how to use him properly (if at all) offensively and seems to now be understanding that AD can be a major weapon on the offence as well. There's reason when AD was asked who he likened his game to before the season he said Kevin Durant not Garnett. While he's probably overstating himself the point is he's very capable offensively and more skilled now then Camby ever was and you can hold me to that.

StringerBell · Post #1024 » by **StringerBell** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:29 pm

Kind of surprised to hear Steve Kerr just compare Sullinger to Love in his last year at UCLA. I know he's lost some weight but has his game really improved that much since last year?

Indeed · Post #1025 » by **Indeed** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:32 pm

Perhaps of the competition level, I would have Sullinger ahead of Beal slightly due to his size.
I think it depends on his quickness on pre-draft measurement, but his quick reaction and basketball IQ seems to be a good pick. His awareness is pretty good.

StringerBell · Post #1026 » by **StringerBell** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:37 pm

Yeah, he has looked pretty good from what I've seen this game. Not like the Raps need a PF like Sullinger but he could be a sleeper big in this years draft.

JamesNaismith · Post #1027 » by **JamesNaismith** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:42 pm

StringerBell wrote:Kind of surprised to hear Steve Kerr just compare Sullinger to Love in his last year at UCLA. I know he's lost some weight but has his game really improved that much since last year?

That's because their style of play IS similar....Love developed that 3pt shot.

But they are both under-the-rim, crafty post players that rebound well. Jared may not be quite as good but that`s no insult to not be at the level of arguebly the best PF in the NBA. The fact that he plays similar to him is very encouraging to say the least.

College Stats:
Kevin Love - 17.5ppg, 10.6rpg and 1.9apg
Jared Sullinger - 17.2ppg, 10.2rpg and 1.2apg (last year) and 17.3ppg, 9.4rpg and 1.2apg

...and NO Sullinger is not a `sleeper`in this draft. He was anticipated to be in the top 5 last year (while Thomas Robinson was NOT) and this year he is still in the top 8.

fredericklove · Post #1028 » by **fredericklove** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:47 pm

JamesNaismith wrote:
StringerBell wrote:Kind of surprised to hear Steve Kerr just compare Sullinger to Love in his last year at UCLA. I know he's lost some weight but has his game really improved that much since last year?

That's because their style of play IS similar....Love developed that 3pt shot.

But they are both under-the-rim, crafty post players that rebound well. Jared may not be quite as good but that`s no insult to not be at the level of arguebly the best PF in the NBA. The fact that he plays similar to him is very encouraging to say the least.

College Stats:
Kevin Love - 17.5ppg, 10.6rpg and 1.9apg
Jared Sullinger - 17.2ppg, 10.2rpg and 1.2apg (last year) and 17.3ppg, 9.4rpg and 1.2apg

...and NO Sullinger is not a `sleeper`in this draft. He was anticipated to be in the top 5 last year (while Thomas Robinson was NOT) and this year he is still in the top 8 this year.

Yup, this is what I like about Sully, craftiness with a lot of post moves accompanied by maturity, leadership and poise. Too bad we really need a good wing or else I will be alright with him in our lineup. He and Love are pretty similar in a lot of ways. I think a team like wizards and NO would love to draft a guy like him.

StringerBell · Post #1029 » by **StringerBell** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:49 pm

JamesNaismith wrote:
StringerBell wrote:Kind of surprised to hear Steve Kerr just compare Sullinger to Love in his last year at UCLA. I know he's lost some weight but has his game really improved that much since last year?

That's because their style of play IS similar....Love developed that 3pt shot.

But they are both under-the-rim, crafty post players that rebound well. Jared may not be quite as good but that`s no insult to not be at the level of arguebly the best PF in the NBA. The fact that he plays similar to him is very encouraging to say the least.

College Stats:
Kevin Love - 17.5ppg, 10.6rpg and 1.9apg
Jared Sullinger - 17.2ppg, 10.2rpg and 1.2apg (last year) and 17.3ppg, 9.4rpg and 1.2apg

Thats a hell of a compliment. The mechanics on Sullingers jumper looks solid, he may be able to extend it out to the 3 pt line. If thats the case and he has the motor to go with it, he may become a helluva forward. Currently at #10 on nbddraft and #5 on draftexpress, hope is stock continues to rise for the Raps sake.

fredericklove · Post #1030 » by **fredericklove** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:51 pm

This Thomas guy is looking pretty good. After Sully leaves, I see Thomas being the go to guy for the buckeyes. Much like T-Rob for KU after the departure of Morris twins.

SkywalkerAC · Post #1031 » by **SkywalkerAC** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:53 pm

Sully also seems pretty similar to Kanter. Good prospect.

fredericklove · Post #1032 » by **fredericklove** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:58 pm

SkywalkerAC wrote:Sully also seems pretty similar to Kanter. Good prospect.

Similar yeah, but I say Sully has better post game than Kanter. If Sully declared last year, he would have gone consensus 3rd pick ahead of Kanter. Also if there was one guy I wish to see playing in college it would be Kanter. I bet he would have averaged something like a 13-14 ppg and 9-10 reb for the cats last year.

Indeed · Post #1033 » by **Indeed** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:58 pm

SkywalkerAC wrote:Sully also seems pretty similar to Kanter. Good prospect.

Sullinger probably is a better defender, because of his willingness to play as a team. He contest EVERY shot on the perimeter, and doesn't miss a thing from the coach. I see Anthony Parker mentality in him. But I don't see his stock will raise any higher, unless he measures well with his wingspan.

He will be a good player, and he can spread the ball.

StringerBell · Post #1034 » by **StringerBell** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:59 pm

Yeah Thomas looks relly good. Efficient scorer with decent size for a SF

Post #1035 » by **gojoorange** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:09 pm

Indeed wrote:
gojoorange wrote:If Beal measures 6'4" or over, he goes top 5. The kid is a stud, he is going to be a great shooting guard.

He is already measured at 6'4.5, which is 6'5. The question is his wingspan. It seems as long as the other SF where he was guarding, but it is hard to tell. He can be 6'9" or 6'10" (currently measured at 6'7").

These are pretty questionable apparently. The combine will tell a lot about where Beal will end up.

Post #1036 » by **gojoorange** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:11 pm

highness wrote:Is this a NBA draft thread or an anti Demar thread?

Do you just scan threads for Demar's name?

DA_SCOUT · Post #1037 » by **DA_SCOUT** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:12 pm

Sullinger was a man amongst boys today.

Baylor game started!

DA_SCOUT · Post #1038 » by **DA_SCOUT** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:20 pm

fredericklove wrote:Yup, this is what I like about Sully, craftiness with a lot of post moves accompanied by maturity, leadership and poise. Too bad we really need a good wing or else I will be alright with him in our lineup. He and Love are pretty similar in a lot of ways. I think a team like wizards and NO would love to draft a guy like him.

Three big things that are underrated sometimes when looking at prospects. I really liked what I saw from him today. Posters were saying Burke had an "it" factor when he dropped 30 loool not today :lol:

parks3981 · Post #1039 » by **parks3981** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:21 pm

I like what I am seeing from Perry Jones. He looks very aggressive today.

I can't stand that they don't have a legit big on the floor with him. It leaves him on an island underneath the basket to defend bigs and drives and is prone to fouls if he is too aggressive trying to defend it.

sunny · Post #1040 » by **sunny** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:25 pm

Arizona is on CBS right now. Tune in!