Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV, Mods Close)

EasternMagic · Post #1101 » by **EasternMagic** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:09 pm

waiting for someone to say STRAP IN for the 1,000,000,000th time.

gp123 · Post #1102 » by **gp123** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:10 pm

It seems a bit to obvious... lets hope Otis is not asleep at the wheel

ChildishGambino · Post #1103 » by **ChildishGambino** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:12 pm

wow if GSW really wants Bogut we need to get into that deal right there.....man if Otis can pull off getting Ellis and Jackson....plus if he can swing a deal for Beasley as well i'll take back EVERY negative thing i've said about him

arkknight1988 · Post #1104 » by **arkknight1988** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:14 pm

NW wrote:http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2012/03/10/warriors-have-their-eyes-on-andrew-bogut/comment-page-1/#comment-50812

Warriors Have Their Eyes on Andrew Bogut

By Marcus Thompson
Saturday, March 10th, 2012 at 12:26 pm in Uncategorized.

Talks perhaps won’t really heat up for another couple days. But count the Warriors among teams interested in Andrew Bogut.

According to team sources, the Warriors are preparing to make a play for Milwaukee’s center. He’s high on their list, but one source didn’t sound too optimistic.

First off, Bogut is hurt. Thanks to an injured left ankle, he could be done for the season. Ideally, the Warriors would like to trade for someone who can help now.

Also, Bogut’s price is high.

The Bucks, which are in desperate need of consistent offense, aren’t pining to get Monta Ellis – who would form a little backcourt with point guard Brandon Jennings. But even if the Warriors come up with a package the Bucks might like – for instance Andris Biedrins, Kwame Brown’s expiring, Dorell Wright and Ekpe Udoh — Golden State would have to take back on of two players they really don’t want.

Stephen Jackson or Drew Gooden.

Jackson’s history with the Warriors is probably too irreparable for him to bring back. Plus, the Warriors would not give him the extension he wants, so it could end poorly. However, Jackson – who makes $9 million this year and $10 million next year – would be an upgrade over Dorell Wright and if it means shedding Biedrins’ last year, it may be worth considering.

Gooden is a tad more desireable than Jackson. He can give them something off the bench, especially if the Warriors lose Udoh. Problem with Gooden, a Bay Area native, is his contract has three years, $20 million on it after this year. That’s a noted commitment. But it may be worth it if the Warriors can add Bogut while keeping it’s core.

Perhaps the more likely option is to get a third team involved, preferably one that would take Stephen Jackson.

Let's make something happen

this has orlando written all over it. maybe what YBR what talking about

arkknight1988 · Post #1105 » by **arkknight1988** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:16 pm

if we get involved in that 3 way trade and only end up with sjax i will be highly dissapointed. ellis has to come to orlando if we help gs land bogut.

gp123 · Post #1106 » by **gp123** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:21 pm

arkknight1988 wrote:if we get involved in that 3 way trade and only end up with sjax i will be highly dissapointed. ellis has to come to orlando if we help gs land bogut.

The same concept works with ATL to a degree... sending bogut to them so we can get jackson and smith. doesn't help with the perimeter scoring quite as much but could be a reasonable bargaining position to pry ellis out of GSW, should they think we'd help ATL get bogut instead

backasswards · Post #1107 » by **backasswards** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:28 pm

ChildishGambino wrote:wow if GSW really wants Bogut we need to get into that deal right there.....man if Otis can pull off getting Ellis and Jackson....plus if he can swing a deal for Beasley as well i'll take back EVERY negative thing i've said about him

So a volume chucker and 2 headcases is going to make everyone fall in love with Otis? This is becoming sad.

gp123 · Post #1108 » by **gp123** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:32 pm

backasswards wrote:
ChildishGambino wrote:wow if GSW really wants Bogut we need to get into that deal right there.....man if Otis can pull off getting Ellis and Jackson....plus if he can swing a deal for Beasley as well i'll take back EVERY negative thing i've said about him

So a volume chucker and 2 headcases is going to make everyone fall in love with Otis? This is becoming sad.

I think you gotta do whatever keeps dwight in town. I don't think a guy who can get his own shot, a guy who hustles and can play D, or a guy who can give you scoring from the bench is necessarily a bad thing.

Contracts suck, but money's not an issue if dwight will opt in

CPBalla2003 n da 863 · Post #1109 » by **CPBalla2003 n da 863** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:33 pm

backasswards wrote:
ChildishGambino wrote:wow if GSW really wants Bogut we need to get into that deal right there.....man if Otis can pull off getting Ellis and Jackson....plus if he can swing a deal for Beasley as well i'll take back EVERY negative thing i've said about him

So a volume chucker and 2 headcases is going to make everyone fall in love with Otis? This is becoming sad.

I rather someone to chuck layups than 3s all the time.

ADRajX · Post #1110 » by **ADRajX** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:33 pm

eyriq wrote:Are we seriously trying to get these epic threads locked? Stop with the spam posts, pretty please

+1 @ eyriq

Let's get this back on track and forget all that stuff that was posted earlier... this page (74) has been good for the most part... so let's post some trade rumors, ideas, tweets, online articles, and news... no more forum bashing or criticisms or preferences... we can reference YaBoyRich or other folks from TBN for Magic related news, but that's it... let's not get this thread locked, k. Thanks.

ADRajX · Post #1111 » by **ADRajX** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:35 pm

Now getting back to business

Lakers Rumors: Andrew Bynum Would Only be Dealt for Dwight Howard
http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-rumo ... 012/03/09/

Dwight Howard among five NBA trade scenarios to watch as deadline nears
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=m ... tes_030812

arkknight1988 · Post #1112 » by **arkknight1988** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:37 pm

gp123 wrote:
arkknight1988 wrote:if we get involved in that 3 way trade and only end up with sjax i will be highly dissapointed. ellis has to come to orlando if we help gs land bogut.

The same concept works with ATL to a degree... sending bogut to them so we can get jackson and smith. doesn't help with the perimeter scoring quite as much but could be a reasonable bargaining position to pry ellis out of GSW, should they think we'd help ATL get bogut instead

if we could get smith then screw ellis and gs. smith is a better player than ellis and is dwight's best friend. anderson is a great player/fit next to dwight but smith is on another level. stan would love our defense and rebounding.

ADRajX · Post #1113 » by **ADRajX** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:42 pm

NW wrote:http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2012/03/10/warriors-have-their-eyes-on-andrew-bogut/comment-page-1/#comment-50812

Warriors Have Their Eyes on Andrew Bogut

By Marcus Thompson
Saturday, March 10th, 2012 at 12:26 pm in Uncategorized.

Talks perhaps won’t really heat up for another couple days. But count the Warriors among teams interested in Andrew Bogut.

According to team sources, the Warriors are preparing to make a play for Milwaukee’s center. He’s high on their list, but one source didn’t sound too optimistic.

First off, Bogut is hurt. Thanks to an injured left ankle, he could be done for the season. Ideally, the Warriors would like to trade for someone who can help now.

Also, Bogut’s price is high.

The Bucks, which are in desperate need of consistent offense, aren’t pining to get Monta Ellis – who would form a little backcourt with point guard Brandon Jennings. But even if the Warriors come up with a package the Bucks might like – for instance Andris Biedrins, Kwame Brown’s expiring, Dorell Wright and Ekpe Udoh — Golden State would have to take back on of two players they really don’t want.

Stephen Jackson or Drew Gooden.

Jackson’s history with the Warriors is probably too irreparable for him to bring back. Plus, the Warriors would not give him the extension he wants, so it could end poorly. However, Jackson – who makes $9 million this year and $10 million next year – would be an upgrade over Dorell Wright and if it means shedding Biedrins’ last year, it may be worth considering.

Gooden is a tad more desireable than Jackson. He can give them something off the bench, especially if the Warriors lose Udoh. Problem with Gooden, a Bay Area native, is his contract has three years, $20 million on it after this year. That’s a noted commitment. But it may be worth it if the Warriors can add Bogut while keeping it’s core.

Perhaps the more likely option is to get a third team involved, preferably one that would take Stephen Jackson.

Let's make something happen

Wow, that's great to hear

NW, would you be happy with trading Ellis and getting Bogut (and others) ?

Maybe an Orl, Mil, and GS 3-team deal could be in the works?

WeAreVenom · Post #1114 » by **WeAreVenom** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:50 pm

arkknight1988 wrote:if we get involved in that 3 way trade and only end up with sjax i will be highly dissapointed. ellis has to come to orlando if we help gs land bogut.

This. This. This.

Only way I'd be willing to help is if we landed Ellis.

ADRajX · Post #1115 » by **ADRajX** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:51 pm

WeAreVenom wrote:
arkknight1988 wrote:if we get involved in that 3 way trade and only end up with sjax i will be highly dissapointed. ellis has to come to orlando if we help gs land bogut.

This. This. This.

Only way I'd be willing to help is if we landed Ellis.

bigpimpatl · Post #1116 » by **bigpimpatl** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:52 pm

why are you guys so obsessed with Stephen Jackson...he sucks. He's not worth giving up any of our players for. I wouldn't trade him for Ryno, Redick, or Baby. If we trade him for Turk our offense probably comes to a halt, and trading nelson means Duhon starts. There is no good end scenario.

I'd consider dealing Jrich, but nobody will take on that long term contract.

JarethCutestory · Post #1117 » by **JarethCutestory** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:54 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=75atklm

Hire me

darthmerrick · Post #1118 » by **darthmerrick** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:57 pm

I'm willing to bet money the YRB deal consists of a three team with Milwaukee and Golden State. Only deal that nets to players on Dwight's wish list Monta and Stephen Jackson

JJ, Hedo, Biedrins, Orton to Milwaukee

Stephen Jackson, Drew Gooden, and Monta Ellis to Orlando

Jameer, Orlando 1st rounder & Bogut to Golden State

InFlames · Post #1119 » by **InFlames** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:58 pm

bigpimpatl wrote:why are you guys so obsessed with Stephen Jackson...he sucks. He's not worth giving up any of our players for. I wouldn't trade him for Ryno, Redick, or Baby. If we trade him for Turk our offense probably comes to a halt, and trading nelson means Duhon starts. There is no good end scenario.

I'd consider dealing Jrich, but nobody will take on that long term contract.

Because Dwight wants him.

arkknight1988 · Post #1120 » by **arkknight1988** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:02 am

darthmerrick wrote:I'm willing to bet money the YRB deal consists of a three team with Milwaukee and Golden State. Only deal that nets to players on Dwight's wish list Monta and Stephen Jackson

JJ, Hedo, Biedrins, Orton to Milwaukee

Stephen Jackson, Drew Gooden, and Monta Ellis to Orlando

Jameer, Orlando 1st rounder & Bogut to Golden State

the bucks won't take back bad contracts for bogut. the reason we are shopping hedo is probably b/c the bucks don't want him and we can't be stuck with sjax and hedo.