POLL: Is Ryan Anderson Untouchable

[Blue_and_Whte]

Anderson/Dwight is an elite front court combination. No, I am not calling Ryan elite. The combination of the two of them is elite. You have the best center in the league who can't do anything outside the paint, with arguably the best shooter in the game this season. You simply can't double off Ryans man. In the OKC game Ibaka was a complete non factor defensively because of it. And Dwight had free reign to stomp all over Perkins. Not to mention the offensive rebounding between the two is huge. If your idea is to keep Dwight, then you keep Ryan alongside him. You only trade Ryan at this point if he is part of a package to get a legit superstar player. Trading him for 40 year olds or non all-stars is absolutely pointless.

+1, except for the non all stars part...You've got guys that have been snubbed that should be all stars.

[richboy]

Anderson/Dwight is an elite front court combination. No, I am not calling Ryan elite. The combination of the two of them is elite. You have the best center in the league who can't do anything outside the paint, with arguably the best shooter in the game this season. You simply can't double off Ryans man. In the OKC game Ibaka was a complete non factor defensively because of it. And Dwight had free reign to stomp all over Perkins. Not to mention the offensive rebounding between the two is huge. If your idea is to keep Dwight, then you keep Ryan alongside him. You only trade Ryan at this point if he is part of a package to get a legit superstar player. Trading him for 40 year olds or non all-stars is absolutely pointless.

+1, except for the non all stars part...You've got guys that have been snubbed that should be all stars.

Yeah i guess snubbed every year of there career.

Fact is there a difference between perennial all-stars and just good players. Just getting a good player is not going to make us great. Especially if we have to give up a good player or multiple good players.

Anderson should be getting 38 minutes a game easy. It makes zero sense for Big Baby to be playing 20 minutes a game. We play our clear cut second best player 30 minutes. It makes no sense to me.

We should also have a backup center, which would cut baby to 10 MPG in relief of Ryan. IMO he's getting 8-10 extra MPG because Stan thinks Ryan is a poor defender. Stan always yanks Ryan after he blows a defensive assignment. But, I think after the Baby practice incident, Stan and the crew are leery of cutting his minutes too much. He came here thinking he was going to be the starter! It's not happening but I think they fear him going off the deep end if he gets less than 20.

Ryan is a poor defender. Baby does alot of the little stuff defensively that I remeber this board wishing that we had those little annoying things that we as Magic fans hated him for when he was in Boston. He doesnt get a ton blocks but he does a good job drawing charges and rotating defensively. He sucks offensively, and may not be the best option as a back up center but he deserves mins at PF

Obviously we score alot with Ryan in the game but when it comes to the bogged down version of basketball that we see in the PO's and teams have some athletic tweener 4 planted in front of Anderson the whole game, Keeping the scores low by stopping teams from scoring is going to be key. Without looking at the stats (because I really cant while at work) based on my eye test it seems we're in the + in pts allowed when Ryan is on the court vs Davis...... Anyone want to verify that for me?

We play better defense when Baby isn't even in the game. Our team shooting percentage drops 9% when Big Baby comes in the game. Our offense jumps up 12 points per 100 possession when Big Baby is on the bench. His PER at PF is 1. That is the number 1. His PER at center is 11. However his opponents PER is 21 at center. Fact is Glen Davis is not a NBA player right now. I'm not sure if he ever was. Right now playing him even 10 minutes seems stupid. There is not 1 positive number statistically to suggest he should get minutes. We don't even play better defense when he is in the game.

We play better with Anderson. Not a little better but a ton better. In Ryan Anderson minutes we have point differential equal to the Miami Heat. Our unit of Nelson-Redick-Turkoglu-Anderson-Howard is statistically one of the best in the league. We pretty much have let Glen Davis cry his way into the rotation. Because of it we are not using our best lineups enough.

[eyriq]

richboy, how did you get inside my head and steal my good looks on top of it all?

[Last Guardian]

We play better with Anderson. Not a little better but a ton better. In Ryan Anderson minutes we have point differential equal to the Miami Heat. Our unit of Nelson-Redick-Turkoglu-Anderson-Howard is statistically one of the best in the league. We pretty much have let Glen Davis cry his way into the rotation. Because of it we are not using our best lineups enough.

Damn, I knew there was a reason Redick should be starting. I think he is much better playing off Howard than he is being the best option off the bench.

[locus7]

Just to throw my 2c worth in, from watching Ryno this season I see effort on defense, but he just doesn't have either the strength to hold his man out when posted up, or the ups to block many shots. He's a smart player & is obviously working hard on his game, so its a question how much he'll improve over time.

On offense its a similar story. He runs round constantly setting picks & screens near the 3 pt line to get the ball handler free, while threatening the pick & pop 3 point shot, and occasionally mixes it up with a pick & roll to the hoop, which I wish he'd do more often. He reads the play very well, rarely ever looks lost. Doesn't play out of control and plays hard within his limitations, and has a knack for the offensive rebound.

What I don't like is the amount of times he forces the offensive rebound up into the teeth of shotblockers when a pass out to reset would be preferable. Also its odd that he seems to have no mid-range game - he's either catch & shoot 3s or trying for layups/dunks, nothing inbetween. He's an excellent FT shooter, no reason why he couldn't get himself open for easy 15 footers. If he worked on that area of his game he'd be a monster, especially at times when his 3 pointers aren't dropping. He does seem to be hitting the back iron on a lot of 3 point shots recently, wonder why that is?

Lastly, he seems quite effective when Dwight is on the bench. He appears to take the leadership of the front court when that happens - its not as if he needs Dwight in there.

In short, I don't think he's peaked yet, there's still tons of potential with Ryno that good coaching & hard work could bring out. But is he untouchable if it means keeping a motivated Dwight and upgrading the roster in other ways? You'd have to think no - as others have pointed out, playmaking is the problem that really needs addressing.

[arkknight1988]

We play better with Anderson. Not a little better but a ton better. In Ryan Anderson minutes we have point differential equal to the Miami Heat. Our unit of Nelson-Redick-Turkoglu-Anderson-Howard is statistically one of the best in the league. We pretty much have let Glen Davis cry his way into the rotation. Because of it we are not using our best lineups enough.

Damn, I knew there was a reason Redick should be starting. I think he is much better playing off Howard than he is being the best option off the bench.

redick does get torched by bigger guards such as henderson last night. great player off our bench though

[Reverse_Angle]

only hedo can touch ryno.

[classic_magic]

he has made 115 3 points play , 36 more than any other player

[classic_magic]

Most three-point field goals, season
267-Dennis Scott, Orlando, 1995-96

[BadMofoPimp]

Most three-point field goals, season
267-Dennis Scott, Orlando, 1995-96

Unfortunately, this is a shortened season. Ryno could have broken Scott's record. If I do recall, even though Scott was knocking them down, fan still hated on Scott like Hedo. He was slow and bad on Defense.

[Hilltop]

Ryan will need to average over three 3PT makes per game to beat Scott's record.

Even if you adjust the numbers for an 82-game season, he is only on pace to match or slightly pass Rashard Lewis in 2007-2008 at 226 3-pointers.

[Bensational]

Most three-point field goals, season
267-Dennis Scott, Orlando, 1995-96

hey dude, what did your name use to be?? i recognise your sig, but can't place the name.