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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs Portland 7PM 3/10 Sat 7PM 

Post#201 » by ST21 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:53 am

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Wall didn't start the 4th...People nitpick every game with what he does.



i didn't say he did...

and btw i think wall played an excellent game. i just thought he should have been more aggressive in the 4th.

and nitpicky? come on dude can we not saying anything negative about wall without it being considered nit picky?

i am one of the biggest wall supporters out there. just said i thought this was perfect game for him to takeover late and he didn't. it's not like i'm calling him a bust or saying he is overrated.
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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs Portland 7PM 3/10 Sat 7PM 

Post#202 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:56 am

I have no problem with the Wizard getting rid of Lewis, Blatche, Young, Crawford, and McGee (but Javale doesn't kill this team nearly as bad as the others).

Vesely plays help defense and the ball moves well when he is in the game. He may suck but he's a rookie. Trade him if you can, but I can live with him.
Singleton is a bigger Crawford, I fear. I will give him the benefit of a doubt if his defense improves. He's one you can trade, but I can live with him on the bench.
Mack has already won me over.
Booker, everybody sees as useful and solid.
Seraphin is just getting started. A new coach, some smarter teammates, and another summer for him to improve with the French team will make him even better.

Give this team a shooting guard and/or a small forward who can truly shoot and who do not make the ball stick.
Give them one reliable post scorer with good height.

Then, we will have a team.

Right now the team is hot or cold, depending on effort and how many hero shots go in.
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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs Portland 7PM 3/10 Sat 7PM 

Post#203 » by Jimmy Recard » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:11 am

jivelikenice wrote:The shooting guards on OUR team killed us tonight. They were 7 for 26 (27%) while the rest of the team was 32 for 56 (57%). They also had 1 assist. We beat the Lakers by sharing the ball (24 assists) and had 17 tonight. Why do Young & Crawford feel so entitled? Give the ball to Book & Seraphin a few more times and they WILL score some pts.....

Just watching the OKC game. Jimmy Harden already has 33 off the bench. My goodness, he would be perfect next to Wall with his high IQ, sound all round game.
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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs Portland 7PM 3/10 Sat 7PM 

Post#204 » by closg00 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:14 am

jivelikenice wrote:Would love to see them diversify what the do w/ Seraphin. The guy is big, plays physical, & has good touch...Lets see what he can do


+1 I'm on-board with giving Kevin and JaVale some run together depending on the match-up.
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Post#205 » by dangermouse » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:18 am

Id like to see Seraphin start at C now. Starting Booker worked. Lets give our other young gun a shot.

I guess we do need to try and boost McGee's trade value as much as we can though...

Also, post trade deadline (if no moves happen).... I'd like to see Vesely play big minutes at C for a game, maybe even start.... I KNOW, I KNOW, I'm crazy. But lets try it. So what if he gets outmatched physically, so does McGee! At least he has a brain.
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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs Portland 7PM 3/10 Sat 7PM 

Post#206 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:26 am

dangermouse wrote:Id like to see Seraphin start at C now. Starting Booker worked. Lets give our other young gun a shot.

I guess we do need to try and boost McGee's trade value as much as we can though...

Also, post trade deadline (if no moves happen).... I'd like to see Vesely play big minutes at C for a game, maybe even start.... I KNOW, I KNOW, I'm crazy. But lets try it. So what if he gets outmatched physically, so does McGee! At least he has a brain.


I don't have a problem with them benching McGee.

Instead of boosting his trade value, slotting in as a reserve and keeping him for a Blatche-like deal makes a ton of sense. Unlike Andray, the Wizards will ALWAYS be able to trade McGee if he's re-signed for less than 9M per season.

Why not not give him away, just to get rid of Andray. Bench him if it's called for because it won't make his value higher.
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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs Portland 7PM 3/10 Sat 7PM 

Post#207 » by jivelikenice » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:35 am

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jivelikenice wrote:
Wall didn't start the 4th...People nitpick every game with what he does.



i didn't say he did...

and btw i think wall played an excellent game. i just thought he should have been more aggressive in the 4th.

and nitpicky? come on dude can we not saying anything negative about wall without it being considered nit picky?

i am one of the biggest wall supporters out there. just said i thought this was perfect game for him to takeover late and he didn't. it's not like i'm calling him a bust or saying he is overrated.


Didn't mean to point you out. Just seems in general no matter what Wall is the focus of discussion. Wittman should have kept him in to play the entire 2nd half. It seems like it takes him a couple of minutes to get back in the flow and with 8 minutes left in the game there's no time for that.
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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs Portland 7PM 3/10 Sat 7PM 

Post#208 » by jivelikenice » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:36 am

dangermouse wrote:Id like to see Seraphin start at C now. Starting Booker worked. Lets give our other young gun a shot.

I guess we do need to try and boost McGee's trade value as much as we can though...

Also, post trade deadline (if no moves happen).... I'd like to see Vesely play big minutes at C for a game, maybe even start.... I KNOW, I KNOW, I'm crazy. But lets try it. So what if he gets outmatched physically, so does McGee! At least he has a brain.


That's kind of why i want to see the bogut deal happen. They'll be forced to give kevin 30 minutes a night.
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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs Portland 7PM 3/10 Sat 7PM 

Post#209 » by tontoz » Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:22 am

Fairly well played game but when Young/Crawford shoot 7/26 it is going to be hard to win. Nice to see only 8 turnovers on the game, zero from Wall. Definitely want to see Booker/Seraphin get more looks. The thing with Booker is that if he doesn't have a good look he will find the open man. He isn't going to force up a bad shot.

LMA is just a beast. He takes a lot of tough, contested shots but makes them. He knows nobody is going to block his jumper (just like Dirk) so the defense doesn't faze him.

I like the new move Wall is doing where he moves his off hand towards the ball like he is going to shoot a pullup j, but then drives hard. It definitely freezes the defender.

Nice to see Singleton scoring and hitting the boards for a change.

NOH won tonight. The tank rolls on.
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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs Portland 7PM 3/10 Sat 7PM 

Post#210 » by dobrojim » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:26 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Singleton might be coming around some.


I agree. As he did early in the season and also in college, with his
feet set, he's not a bad shooter. If I was scouting him, I'd make
him a dribbler. He struggles there. But he's not doing badly for
a rook, mid-first. He's recently done a better job of staying out
of foul trouble, both him and Book. He's a guy you must cover
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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs Portland 7PM 3/10 Sat 7PM 

Post#211 » by dobrojim » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:29 pm

miller31time wrote:HD is not friendly to Jill Sorenson.


Christy Winters-Scott however....
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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs Portland 7PM 3/10 Sat 7PM 

Post#212 » by dobrojim » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:32 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Washington has a great chance to win this.

Portland is shooting 59%--they won't maintain that. Washington has missed 5 FTs but only trail by 3.

With Camby out, the Wizards need to get the fourth foul on Pryzbilla. They can win by going inside out. The bad jumpers will lose the game.


FT shooting. The story of this game. POR missed one all game. We missed
a bunch The score and game would've been a lot closer if the 2
teams had missed a similar number.
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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs Portland 7PM 3/10 Sat 7PM 

Post#213 » by dobrojim » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:42 pm

miller31time wrote:All in all, not a bad game by any stretch of the imagination.

We missed an inordinate number of free throws. They were (almost) perfect.

We also got nothing from our two biggest shot-jackers -- Young and Crawford.


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Post#214 » by hands11 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:08 pm

miller31time wrote:The wave has broken out.

We're officially the most pitiful fanbase on earth.


Maybe if they get smarter players, smarter people will start to purchase tickets and show up to the games. Maybe that goes hand and hand.
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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs Portland 7PM 3/10 Sat 7PM 

Post#215 » by hands11 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:31 pm

80sballboy wrote:Nick Young 3-for-13 and 0 assists. That's old NY we used to love. :D


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Post#216 » by hands11 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:41 pm

80sballboy wrote:Nick Young 3-for-13 and 0 assists. That's old NY we used to love. :D


Yeah, he used up his assist allotment for the month last game.

Time to starting playing the vets more so Wall gets that experience.

Wall, Mason, Mo, Booker, McGee

Clearly Crawford or Nick can not play well on a regular basis. I would rather Wall have a SG and SF who are professionals. If you put those two out there, you can live with some McGee WTFs because at least he gives Wall a nice target for alley opps. That seems to be 70% of this teams post game.
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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs Portland 7PM 3/10 Sat 7PM 

Post#217 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:49 pm

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80sballboy wrote:Nick Young 3-for-13 and 0 assists. That's old NY we used to love. :D


Yeah, he used up his assist allotment for the month last game.

Time to starting playing the vets more so Wall gets that experience.

Wall, Mason, Mo, Booker, McGee

Clearly Crawford or Nick can not play well on a regular basis. I would rather Wall have a SG and SF who are professionals. If you put those two out there, you can live with some McGee WTFs because at least he gives Wall a nice target for alley opps. That seems to be 70% of this teams post game.


I think I would keep Mo on the bench and ride with Singleton, because Chris seems to be coming on strongly. Mack should get some burn at SG with Wall at times. Shelvin consistently plays the right way. Jordan can really look good when he's on, but that hot streak went south in a hurry.
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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs Portland 7PM 3/10 Sat 7PM 

Post#218 » by hands11 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:58 pm

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Illuminaire wrote:Come on Nate. If CCJ doesn't overreact to something, it's not a Wiz game. It's his thing. :D

Meanwhile... JOHN WALL!


True. :)

But nate, I do not want Nick back at all. Not just this game. I'm sure they need to go in another direction. They can resign him cheaply and he's serviceable and at times good. He's just not a great player for his inconsistency and his lack of a total game.

I will give you McGee can go if you see the Nick hurts this team a lot of the time. He's too up and down. Except for the Laker game, Nick generally only helps when his shot is dropping.


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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs Portland 7PM 3/10 Sat 7PM 

Post#219 » by hands11 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:17 pm

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dlts20 wrote:Mack is playing pretty solid again and Singelton has stepped it up big time.

The biggest difference in this game is that Portland has LA. They had the big you can throw it to and run offense through while we didnt. He was being guarded by Booker who was trying but just too short to compete. He was shooting right over him. I just felt helpless when they threw it into him and then they set up the perimiter game off of that. We were all perimiter, espically in the 2nd half.

Part of it is us not having a big stud like LA and part of it is just the chuckers. As Witt said after that one game, the guards have to introduce themselves to the bigs. They never pass it inside. If they do and the big kicks it back out then the jack it up instead of throwing it right back down


I will repeat this and have folks disagree with me 100 times. I just want to see it:

Put Seraphin at PF and play him with McGee.

You will not see Aldridge dominate the same way. He might live on the FT line, but I believe the size will bother him.


KS at PF
Booker at SF

I have tried those here lots of times CCJ. Not many if any takers. It is something that will only get support after it happens. Not before. Hell, Booker played SF last year and people still don't even want to consider that and it has already happened.

Basically what I see from Booker is that he is a baller. He can play SF, PF or C. PF is most likely his sweet spot but even there some match ups give him problems. But that can be said of most players.

Obviously KS can be used at PF. They just don't do it. Mostly I think because Booker is balln there and they are short on centers. Maybe the return on Ronny will open up the rotations.
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Re: Game Thread Wiz vs Portland 7PM 3/10 Sat 7PM 

Post#220 » by hands11 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:01 am

I just finally watched the 4th quarter.

Overall a decent game. Hard to beat the refs and also overcome the poor FT shooting when the other team is that hot.

Team 47.6%

Not so much so for Nick and Crawford. 7-27

Get this team Ray Allen. Now. They really need some short shooters that are reliable.

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