2012 NBA Draft - Part II

hands11 · Post #341 » by **hands11** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:48 pm

Jenkins is a great pure shooter, like Steph Curry

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/John-Jenkins-5826/

I though he looked kind of like him CCJ.

Seems like a good end of the bench player. Specialist. If you can play off the ball and catch and shoot, there is a place for you in the NBA if you know your role.

Post #342 » by **Ruzious** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:05 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I like Will Barton in this draft at SG.

I think he's going to be a really good NBA SG. I love his rebounding and defense with great slashing ability. I can foresee Will Barton being a great fit next to John Wall. He is not a great shooter but he's a great athlete and a very good defender who can score.

http://nbadraftroom2.blogspot.com/2011/ ... eport.html

Consiglieri, he's a guy in that 15-55 range that you know I like to find because I see that spot being where NBA scouts frequently miss three or four good to great players. Barton is in the same league as Brad Beal in my book. Barton is better than Jeremy Lamb IMO.

If the Wizards could replace Nick Young and Jordan Crawford with Will Barton, I think it would be such a HUGE difference, we wouldn't see the same team out there.

Will Barton looks like a thin Paul Pierce playing guard. He is decisive and equally adept at attacking the basket or hitting a smooth midrange to college three shot. I think he could be a 20+ ppg NBA player.

His efficiency has dramatically improved - there's a lot to like there. The thing that really hurts his chances is his extremely narrow frame. Does that body type hold up in the NBA. But ya know - the same thing was questioned about Rip Hamilton when he was at UConn. He gradually got a lot stronger in the NBA. So ya might be on to something with Barton, CCJ. And he could slip to the Wiz 2nd round pick.

truwizfan4evr · Post #343 » by **truwizfan4evr** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:52 pm

I really like Alex young. He seems like he be a good fit for us. He can run the floor and is a very versatile defender. He can hit the outside shot even though he is a streaky shooter. He's a solid all around player and be a good pick up in the second round. He is a very aggressive at rebounding for a wing player. And would be a good role player in the NBA. I think he is a sleeper in this draft.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #344 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:05 am

Rip is exactly who Will Barton reminds me of, Ruz. As with Rip Hamilton, I like Will Barton's track record, too.

Played on a 28-0 MD State Champion HS team. Played on a 35-4 National Prep HS Championship team. MVP of both teams. Barton was the Prep Player of the Year and the #1 national rated HS SG by a couple scouting services. He's playing on a very talented Memphis team, and they've blown away conference foes.

I really do think he's a best case pick in round two.

go'stags · Post #345 » by **go'stags** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:55 am

Barton is way too athletic and productive to last until the second round, IMO. But I agree with both of you, he seems like a player.

truwizfan4evr · Post #346 » by **truwizfan4evr** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:15 am

Does anyone think Thomas Robinson can be a potential all in the NBA one day?

dangermouse · Post #347 » by **dangermouse** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:33 am

I'm a guy whos really on the Thomas Robinson koolaid hard.

His rebounding, I think, will definitely translate to the next level, moreso than Sullinger's. I think the way he chases down boards that are out of his area, his general hustle when it comes to making plays like that, is almost Ben Wallace-like.

He seems to have a pretty good mid-range jumper when hes open, and has a nose for scoring around the hoop.

Imo he is either the best or 2nd best PF this year, depending on where you see Davis long-term.

As far as Robinson long-term, I think he projects to be as good as Millsap and maybe even better in a few years.

truwizfan4evr · Post #348 » by **truwizfan4evr** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:39 am

dangermouse wrote:I'm a guy whos really on the Thomas Robinson koolaid hard.

His rebounding, I think, will definitely translate to the next level, moreso than Sullinger's. I think the way he chases down boards that are out of his area, his general hustle when it comes to making plays like that, is almost Ben Wallace-like.

He seems to have a pretty good mid-range jumper when hes open, and has a nose for scoring around the hoop.

Imo he is either the best or 2nd best PF this year, depending on where you see Davis long-term.

As far as Robinson long-term, I think he projects to be as good as Millsap and maybe even better in a few years.

If he can be as good as Milsap or even better. We would have a future in Washington. Well if we would get him. I'm starting to agree with everyone on Harrison Barnes he is to one dimensional for my liking. I got him out my top five best players available at this point. And my top five are of course Antony Davis Thomas Robinson, Andre Drummond, Michael Kid-GillChrist, and Jared Sullinger. These are my top five players I would get first in this draft. And perry Jones and Harrison Barnes are after them.

Post #349 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:56 am

go'stags wrote:Barton is way too athletic and productive to last until the second round, IMO. But I agree with both of you, he seems like a player.

Fwiw, both NBAdraft.net and draftexpress.com still have him as a 2nd rounder.

closg00 · Post #350 » by **closg00** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:25 am

Didn't know Thomas Robinson was from DC.

truwizfan4evr · Post #351 » by **truwizfan4evr** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:15 pm

What player would you rather have on the Wizards Anthony Davis or Thomas Robinson?

Benjammin · Post #352 » by **Benjammin** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:36 pm

truwizfan4evr wrote:What player would you rather have on the Wizards Anthony Davis or Thomas Robinson?

Robinson is a nice player with a touching story, but it's not even close.

Post #353 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:48 pm

Put it this way - Davis is worth more than the next 4 picks combined.

Severn Hoos · Post #354 » by **Severn Hoos** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:52 pm

Ruzious wrote:Put it this way - Davis is worth more than the next 4 picks combined.

So if we wind up with the 6th pick, would you trade this year's 1st and 2nd round picks, plust 1st rounders in 2013 and 2014 for him?

I mean, I would - it's not like this is the NFL!

Post #355 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:26 pm

LOL, I would most def make an RG3 type trade for Davis. 1 player in the NBA makes several times the difference 1 player makes in the NBA. An NFL team starts 22 players - not even counting special teams players. An NBA team starts 5. 3 firsts and a second would be an absolute bargain for Davis.

Of course, that pesky old Ted Stepien inspired rule of not trading consecutive 1sts would get in the way. Give em 5 future firsts alternating years - no protection. I'd absolutely do it. Davis > RG3.

DCZards · Post #356 » by **DCZards** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:30 pm

closg00 wrote:Didn't know Thomas Robinson was from DC.

Yeah, he's a DC kid. Played his h.s. ball in New Hampshire. As a result, most folks don't realize he was born and raised in D.C. I'd love to have a local kid on the roster. Right now, Robinson would be my second pick behind Davis.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #357 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:01 pm

truwizfan4evr wrote:What player would you rather have on the Wizards Anthony Davis or Thomas Robinson?

I will put it to you this way: Thomas Robinson played behind Markieff and Marcus Morris at Kansas. He's in his third season of NCAA ball. He is compared by some scouting services to Kris Humphries, Derrick Wlliams, and Carlos Boozer. At best, he's like Amare Stoudemire from a couple seasons back. He will definitely be a good rebounder who should also be able to finish and score well.

Anthony Davis is two years younger (19 years old today) and already significantly better. Nbadraft.net compares him to both Marcus Camby and Chris Bosh, but their scout was worried about his thin frame. I think Davis is farther along at the same age than Alonzo Mourning. His stats are very similar to a young Patrick Ewing. His physique reminds me of a young Kevin Garnett, but Davis is probably an inch or two shorter than KG. He wreaks havoc on defense and takes few shots, but is very efficient on offense.

I think Davis has a very good handle and he will excel in transition in the NBA. He's going to be a terror of a defender in half court. I fully expect if Davis stays healthy, he is going to be a 15-yr pro and eventually a HOF player.

I think he's a Tim Duncan/KG talent.

Anthony Davis is so much better than anyone else in this draft, I can't remember there ever being a wider gulf between the best player and the rest.

Post #358 » by **Rafael122** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:04 pm

truwizfan4evr wrote:What player would you rather have on the Wizards Anthony Davis or Thomas Robinson?

I would only think about this if we had the top pick, and it's Davis. Otherwise, its Robinson and MKG for me.

go'stags · Post #359 » by **go'stags** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:05 pm

Ruzious wrote:
go'stags wrote:Barton is way too athletic and productive to last until the second round, IMO. But I agree with both of you, he seems like a player.

Fwiw, both NBAdraft.net and draftexpress.com still have him as a 2nd rounder.

Yea, but once front offices catch up on watching Memphis play, plus see his athleticism in workouts and take note of his production..well, I'm just very confident he won't be there.

I feel that The Lamb from UConn, Jeremy, is becoming a little underrated on this board. Granted, he has not looked like a winning player this year at UConn, but I think some perspective is needed. This is a team whose offense has been an absolute wreck all year, which happens when you play two PGs together who only look for their own one-on-one offense. There is never an ball movement or positive action, just mostly standing around while Napier and Boatwright dribble. However, Lamb knows that they need his scoring to win, so when he does get the ball he doesn't pass it back. Not the greatest way to play, but understandable.

This is a guy who, before this year, and even in the early part of the season, showed a very-nice all around game. Passing, slashing, moving the ball, rebounding, and shooting. He just seemed to make the right play most of the time. When the 2 non-passing PGs were added to the mix, his overall game went south.

The guy I really feel that he can have a similar game/impact as is Joe Johnson. Both are excellent shooters with a good all-around game who can become a little bit of shot jackers if the offense breaks down. But when they are playing right both are all-star caliber IMO. Luckily Wall would have most the ball handling duties, so Lamb wouldn't be able to misuse his abilities as Johnson sometimes does in ATL.

Lamb's weakness is his lack of getting to the line, but that is not a strength of Johnsons either. The most important similarity is that both are extremely smooth shooters, but I think Lamb may one day be even better.

We shouldn't penalize Lab for playing with not 1 but 2 ball-hogging PGs.

dobrojim · Post #360 » by **dobrojim** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:10 pm

closg00 wrote:Like Zeller's potential, but he's just too-weak right now, I think JaVale could push him around. I wish Vesely had his skills.

He does need to get stronger. That was more evident in the
game vs FlSt. That's probably something that can be addressed
I won't say easily, but with work. They say he's a hard worker
so I think long-term, he'll get stronger.