Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone and maybe Jennings (update pg131)

[Newz]

If you don't understand why I can't post specific deals, well I can't help you. Bern said it quite reasonably a few pages back. I'm only posting if I can in some way positively contribute (be it to the fans or some vicarious way thru the franchise's long term sustainability here); I'm not going to firebomb a deal just because I want to be regarded as some internet "insider." If the Bucks wanted the deal out in the public, you can bet Gardner would have the story written. There's a lot of smoke out there for you to find the fire, but I'm not going to lead you to the torch just so that I can stoke my internet ego.

Once again and for all, I don't know everything nor am I suggesting anything close to that. I do not know every deal on Hammond's desk. For what I do know, there seems to be more accurate information out there in the public right now than I would have expected--but nobody has it nailed. Discuss that, not me and my motives.

I understand everything you're saying here, and I'm enjoying the little bits and pieces you're "leaking" because it's fun to speculate. But, I don't know why I should put any stock in what you're saying when it's so general, so ambiguous, and tethered to so many variables that your credibility isn't on the line whatsoever. You feel me?

Pretty much what I'm saying. I don't get how anyone believes that he's credible when he can't reveal any specific information at all.

Like I said, I appreciate his posts and stuff. I just don't get how people consider him an "insider" or something like that. (Even though, BP, I realize that isn't what you are trying to be)

[sidney lanier]

Here's a hypothetical: suppose there was a three-way deal that involved Bogut, Al Jefferson and Monta Ellis, along with some other pieces.

Who's the best player in that trade?

If healthy, Bogut. Even if he's not healthy I'd probably say Bogut. I'd take him over Jefferson no matter what. It's closer with Ellis.

Thanks for your thoughts.

I would sure hate to lose Bogut with nothing but Al Jefferson and filler coming back. I do kind of like the way Ellis gets his points in the flow, though.

[raferfenix]

So it's an income risk? Not sure how I feel about that. It definitely means a second-tier veteran with an exorbitant contract (surprise!), but somehow that still seems better than an injury risk. It's also obviously a win-now move, but we all knew that.

BuckPack said NOTHING about position as far as I know, though. I don't know why so many people keep bringing up guards. That has nothing to do with it! Here are the clues:

1. Income risk.
2. Would make many of us happy.
3. BP thinks it's good for both teams.
4. No pick coming back.
5. Bucks are mulling the offer.
6. It's a team that wouldn't be in the playoffs if the season ended today.

Looks like a good summation to me.

A Kings package of Tyreke Evans, Jason Thompson, and Francisco Garcia for Bogut would cover those bases.

An Evans / Jennings pairing could be exciting, or it could be a redux of Mo / Redd. I'm not certain at all how we view this, particularly since we'd be taking on Garcia's nasty deal.

I bet the Kings would be all over pairing Cousins and Bogut though.

[BuckPack]

So it's an income risk? .

Didn't say that. Risk, but not specifying what kind as of now.

[milweskee]

And for the record, Panera is tasty but way overpriced.

It's okay but how much bread can one person eat? I once got a bread bowl of soup with a side of... bread. I was like "uhhh... really?"

"Yup. That or an apple sir."

"**** this."

Seriously try The City Market, it puts Panera to shame. I threw Panera's chilli out after one bite, gross.
http://www.thecitymarketcafe.com/

thanks for the recommendation. I will definitely try that. I'm that area a lot anyways.

[pilprin]

I'm going to say its Portland.

[Mags FTW]

And for the record, Panera is tasty but way overpriced.

It's okay but how much bread can one person eat? I once got a bread bowl of soup with a side of... bread. I was like "uhhh... really?"

"Yup. That or an apple sir."

"**** this."

Seriously try The City Market, it puts Panera to shame. I threw Panera's chilli out after one bite, gross.
http://www.thecitymarketcafe.com/

Too far for me. I'm on the lower east side.

[LUKE23]

Horrible trade by Orlando if true.

[BuckPack]

If you don't understand why I can't post specific deals, well I can't help you. Bern said it quite reasonably a few pages back. I'm only posting if I can in some way positively contribute (be it to the fans or some vicarious way thru the franchise's long term sustainability here); I'm not going to firebomb a deal just because I want to be regarded as some internet "insider." If the Bucks wanted the deal out in the public, you can bet Gardner would have the story written. There's a lot of smoke out there for you to find the fire, but I'm not going to lead you to the torch just so that I can stoke my internet ego.

Once again and for all, I don't know everything nor am I suggesting anything close to that. I do not know every deal on Hammond's desk. For what I do know, there seems to be more accurate information out there in the public right now than I would have expected--but nobody has it nailed. Discuss that, not me and my motives.

I understand everything you're saying here, and I'm enjoying the little bits and pieces you're "leaking" because it's fun to speculate. But, I don't know why I should put any stock in what you're saying when it's so general, so ambiguous, and tethered to so many variables that your credibility isn't on the line whatsoever. You feel me?

I feel you.

But I'm still not going to provide specifics.

If you want to know whether I've provided good info before, go ask PP. Not going to comment any further.

[Newz]

Too far for me. I'm on the lower east side.

Ever go to Benjy's? That place has pretty delicious soup and sandwiches.

[europa]

Horrible trade by Orlando if true.

I'm trying to remember the last time they made a good trade. Seems like it's been awhile.

[not a felon]

how come woelfel never breaks a story i am going to call the sound off line on wssp and tell them all the money given to woelfel shound be given to the homeless

[mcfromage]

Can anyone say whether the rumored ORLANDO - GOLDEN STATE deal puts a kink in our deal?

[milweskee]

how come woelfel never breaks a story i am going to call the sound off line on wssp and tell them all the money given to woelfel shound be given to the homeless

Make sure NOT to call in with a ridiculous Wisconsin accent or it will likely get lost in all the other drivel...

[EastSideBucksFan]

Can anyone say whether the rumored ORLANDO - GOLDEN STATE deal puts a kink in our deal?

If the Warriors acquire Kaman, I can't see why they would still want to acquire Bogut.

[trwi7]

how come woelfel never breaks a story i am going to call the sound off line on wssp and tell them all the money given to woelfel shound be given to the homeless

You think WSSP gives money to Woelfel?

[Badgerlander]

how come woelfel never breaks a story i am going to call the sound off line on wssp and tell them all the money given to woelfel shound be given to the homeless

You think WSSP gives money to Woelfel?

In donuts

[Mags FTW]

Too far for me. I'm on the lower east side.

Ever go to Benjy's? That place has pretty delicious soup and sandwiches.

Never had it. Might have to give it a whirl.

[Mags FTW]

Can anyone say whether the rumored ORLANDO - GOLDEN STATE deal puts a kink in our deal?

It would kill it.

[pilprin]

If you don't understand why I can't post specific deals, well I can't help you. Bern said it quite reasonably a few pages back. I'm only posting if I can in some way positively contribute (be it to the fans or some vicarious way thru the franchise's long term sustainability here); I'm not going to firebomb a deal just because I want to be regarded as some internet "insider." If the Bucks wanted the deal out in the public, you can bet Gardner would have the story written. There's a lot of smoke out there for you to find the fire, but I'm not going to lead you to the torch just so that I can stoke my internet ego.

Once again and for all, I don't know everything nor am I suggesting anything close to that. I do not know every deal on Hammond's desk. For what I do know, there seems to be more accurate information out there in the public right now than I would have expected--but nobody has it nailed. Discuss that, not me and my motives.

I understand everything you're saying here, and I'm enjoying the little bits and pieces you're "leaking" because it's fun to speculate. But, I don't know why I should put any stock in what you're saying when it's so general, so ambiguous, and tethered to so many variables that your credibility isn't on the line whatsoever. You feel me?

I feel you.

But I'm still not going to provide specifics.

If you want to know whether I've provided good info before, go ask PP. Not going to comment any further.

What is you guess as to whether or not the Bucks make any trade? Better than 50/50?