Official Speculation Thread (Pt XVI, Mods Close)

legacyofdestiny · Post #521 » by **legacyofdestiny** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:25 pm

I havent looked at everyone elses deals, but if it goes down this is the deal:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7zlxhpq

Blue_and_Whte · Post #522 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:26 pm

BelgianMagic wrote:I know I'm gonna get shot for this, but Biedrins really isn't a bad player .. Sure, he's not worth 11mil, but he's not a Duhon. He's a legit C, and would be a great backup

you wont. He is a decent back up. Ive said it for awhile now.

jezzer45 · Post #523 » by **jezzer45** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:26 pm

EasternMagic wrote:
BelgianMagic wrote:We'd be left with 1 SF so that wouldn't be our last deal if it would ever happen

Jameer | Duhon | Ish
Ellis | JRich | Wafer | Liggins
Wright | ??????? | ???????
Davis | Clark | Harper
Howard | BIedrins

Our second Unit would be horrible though ..

from what I have been hearing, I am almost positive Ariza would be on his way here

explain please.

Rick Rolled · Post #524 » by **Rick Rolled** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:26 pm

Sam Amick ‏ @sam_amick
I repeat: Don't expect Dwight Howard-obsessed Warriors owner Joe Lacob to help Orlando keep Dwight Howard in any way. That is all.

arkknight1988 · Post #525 » by **arkknight1988** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:26 pm

BelgianMagic wrote:We'd be left with 1 SF so that wouldn't be our last deal if it would ever happen

Jameer | Duhon | Ish
Ellis | JRich | Wafer | Liggins
Wright | ??????? | ???????
Davis | Clark | Harper
Howard | BIedrins

Our second Unit would be horrible though ..

sjax?

EasternMagic · Post #526 » by **EasternMagic** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:27 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
BelgianMagic wrote:I know I'm gonna get shot for this, but Biedrins really isn't a bad player .. Sure, he's not worth 11mil, but he's not a Duhon. He's a legit C, and would be a great backup

you wont. He is a decent back up. Ive said it for awhile now.

I completely agree... he has gotten semi snubbed in GS.. he can be a valuable backup.. overpaid? yes.

BelgianMagic · Post #527 » by **BelgianMagic** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:27 pm

And the Buzz Killington Award goes to :

Sam Amick ‏ @sam_amick
I repeat: Don't expect Dwight Howard-obsessed Warriors owner Joe Lacob to help Orlando keep Dwight Howard in any way. That is all.

trebone · Post #528 » by **trebone** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:27 pm

Why cant we send out JRich instead of JJ I mean really JJ and Anderson? I am not the biggest Monta fan and if Dwight still leaves which is possible this team is screwed

Blue_and_Whte · Post #529 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:27 pm

The Effect wrote:
Hater_X wrote:For the love of god Ryan Anderson is not that good for you to scoff at a Deal that gets us Monta Ellis people. Not only would I'd trade Ryan and JJ for him I'd trade them, I'd ask for them back and then trade them again just for the satisfaction of moving these guys for a stud. Simply put

This post literally had me in tears, great job man!

Well said sir...

Post #530 » by **Hilltop** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:27 pm

EasternMagic wrote:I actually semi like the idea of a Jameer Monta back court.. Jameer can play more like a 2 if Ellis keeps his assist number up.

No, please no.

Oh god, no.

Rick Rolled · Post #531 » by **Rick Rolled** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:27 pm

Bill Ingram ‏ @TheRocketGuy
HIGHLY unlikely Monta lands in Orlando to help them keep Dwight.

jezzer45 · Post #532 » by **jezzer45** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:27 pm

Rick Rolled wrote:Sam Amick ‏ @sam_amick
I repeat: Don't expect Dwight Howard-obsessed Warriors owner Joe Lacob to help Orlando keep Dwight Howard in any way. That is all.

here we go again. happy, ecstatic, complaining, doubtful, to NO ITS NOT HAPPENING.

PeePee la Fritz · Post #533 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:28 pm

We were just twitter raped by Rudolph....my butt hurts

Swiftraven · Post #534 » by **Swiftraven** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:28 pm

Sam Amick ‏ @sam_amick
I repeat: Don't expect Dwight Howard-obsessed Warriors owner Joe Lacob to help Orlando keep Dwight Howard in any way. That is all.

I agree with him.

EasternMagic · Post #535 » by **EasternMagic** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:28 pm

Hilltop wrote:
EasternMagic wrote:I actually semi like the idea of a Jameer Monta back court.. Jameer can play more like a 2 if Ellis keeps his assist number up.

No, please no.

Oh god, no.

haha I fully expect to be flamed on this. But ya, I think it would work.

Reverse_Angle · Post #536 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:28 pm

eyriq wrote:
Reverse_Angle wrote:
why you be calling me son, boi.

I have no clue how this framework would actually get filled in with value, but I could see GST really like a Curry|Redick back court and NOH really liking a piece like Anderson. Also, you have to consider that by trading for Hedo they are actually trading for guaranteed lottery bound seasons for the duration of his contract. We all know how valuable lottery picks are, Hedo's value is through the roof.

i see. imo if hedo is involved, i think he is going to gsw. Mostly because i do not think a trade that helps us to keep dwight will be fair on other ends. the trading partners will exploit that value.

MitchellUK · Post #537 » by **MitchellUK** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:29 pm

DJRajX wrote:
EasternMagic wrote:If we are dumping Hedo's contract.. it's almost worth it. Dwight will have two of the guys from his wish list in the starting line up. We will be a fast paced team again.. defense is going to suffer. But I say pull the trigger. Hedo's contract gone, a guy who can create his own shot, DWright is a solid player, and Dwight has no excuses if he leaves.

One thing to keep in mind, we can't afford to take two weeks to adjust to a trade like we did last year.. will be interesting to see how this plays out. I'm sure Stan is pulling what hair he has left out.

+1

Defense might not suffer that much - if we get a guy who can genuinely backup Dwight in the deal (no matter how overpaid Okafor or Biedrins are), then Dwight might regain some of the defensive aggression he's been lacking this season, which I still feel is at least partially out of fear of foul trouble and our lack of big man depth.

magicman123 · Post #538 » by **magicman123** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:29 pm

Biedrins hadn't even scored since pouring in two points on Feb. 22, a span of seven games and 52 minutes. That's nothing compared to his stretch in Jan-Feb, when he scored a total of five points over eight games and 153 minutes

Edrock · Post #539 » by **Edrock** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:29 pm

BelgianMagic wrote:We'd be left with 1 SF so that wouldn't be our last deal if it would ever happen

Jameer | Duhon | Ish
Ellis | JRich | Wafer | Liggins
Wright | ??????? | ???????
Davis | Clark | Harper
Howard | BIedrins

Our second Unit would be horrible though ..

Clark & Liggins would probably pickup back up 3 minutes. I think that Jameer should move to the bench as a 6th man and becomes the focus of the offense on the second unit. The question becomes... what's the 4th quarter game-finishing lineup? It'd probably be the 5 you list as the starters.

Ellis | Jameer Duhon | Ish
JRich | Wafer | Liggins
Wright | Liggins/Clark (depending on matchup)
Davis | Clark | Harper
Howard | BIedrins

With the game-finishing lineup looking like this
Jameer
Ellis
Wright/JRich
Davis
Howard

I still feel like Davis has room for improvement, and I see Ellis running high pNr with Dwight in the 4th quarter a-la Hedo

BelgianMagic · Post #540 » by **BelgianMagic** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:29 pm

Been thinking .. Bobcats/Blazers have been talking about a Crawford/Augustin swap

If we could do this rumored Ellis trade, and flip Jameer for SJax

Ellis/Duhon/Ish
JRich/Wafer/Liggins
Wright/Jackson
Davis/Clark/Harper
Dwight/Biedrins