Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone and maybe Jennings (update pg131)

[LUKE23]

Again, focus on the wording of Stein's Tweet. It's clear based on what he's saying that the Warriors are trying to sweeten the offer. That gives the advantage to the Bucks. Curry as the key part of a Bogut trade does little to excite me. It's basically exchanging one guy with injury issues for another. But if you could get a little more (and I would be focusing on Thompson) then the deal becomes more appealing. And in order to get a little more that could mean taking on Lee's contract.

I agree that if the Bucks brought in Lee it would add to the PF mess already in place. I'd then try and deal Gooden although I have little hope that could be done. In the short-term you could essentially rotate Lee, Gooden and Ilyasova at PF and C.

I don't see Gooden/Lee/Ilyasova as realistic, especially with Moute here. I think if you add Lee, you need to ship Ilyasova in a separate deal. That is of course if you have any goals of extending Curry and/or Jennings.

[BUCKnation]

Like others have said, gooden is a must to amnesty if you want to keep both lee and ersan. If all 3 are kept, add in LRMAM, that is maybe 30 mil tied up there.

[bucksbrewers3]

Again, focus on the wording of Stein's Tweet. It's clear based on what he's saying that the Warriors are trying to sweeten the offer. That gives the advantage to the Bucks. Curry as the key part of a Bogut trade does little to excite me. It's basically exchanging one guy with injury issues for another. But if you could get a little more (and I would be focusing on Thompson) then the deal becomes more appealing. And in order to get a little more that could mean taking on Lee's contract.

I agree that if the Bucks brought in Lee it would add to the PF mess already in place. I'd then try and deal Gooden although I have little hope that could be done. In the short-term you could essentially rotate Lee, Gooden and Ilyasova at PF and C.

I don't see Gooden/Lee/Ilyasova as realistic, especially with Moute here. I think if you add Lee, you need to ship Ilyasova in a separate deal. That is of course if you have any goals of extending Curry and/or Jennings.

mbah a moute shouldnt be the road block to a trade. HES NOT THAT GOOD

[europa]

Again, focus on the wording of Stein's Tweet. It's clear based on what he's saying that the Warriors are trying to sweeten the offer. That gives the advantage to the Bucks. Curry as the key part of a Bogut trade does little to excite me. It's basically exchanging one guy with injury issues for another. But if you could get a little more (and I would be focusing on Thompson) then the deal becomes more appealing. And in order to get a little more that could mean taking on Lee's contract.

I agree that if the Bucks brought in Lee it would add to the PF mess already in place. I'd then try and deal Gooden although I have little hope that could be done. In the short-term you could essentially rotate Lee, Gooden and Ilyasova at PF and C.

I don't see Gooden/Lee/Ilyasova as realistic, especially with Moute here. I think if you add Lee, you need to ship Ilyasova in a separate deal. That is of course if you have any goals of extending Curry and/or Jennings.

Ideally, I agree. If you bring in Lee you need to get rid of someone. But I think the Bucks could still make the deal even if they were unable (or unwilling) to trade Ilyasova, Moute or Gooden.

[paulpressey25]

I think we are barking up the wrong tree in focusing on David Lee. I'd guess the Warriors would want a Bogut, Lee, Monta, Klay core. And putting Lee in this completely screws up our payroll. Kohl won't go for that.

If I had to speculate, they are dangling Udoh in the deal but we want Klay instead. And thus things hang.

[JustinCredible]

If it is Biedrins coming back then I have ZERO interest unless it also comes with a 1st round pick.

He's just a filler. If Curry is attached, I don't care.

A filler? The dude makes $9 million per year for three years. He averages 1.8 PPG and 3.9 RPG.

If you are okay with taking him then I better not ever hear your complain about Hammond signing Gooden for under $7 million per year while he is averaging 14.2 PPG and 6.6 RPG.

[Sherman Douglas]

I don't get the attraction to Steph Curry.

So we're going to swap out one point guard who doesn't want to be here for another who presumably will want to go somewhere he can win when he is FA eligible?

How does getting Curry position us better for the future?

The only trade we should be doing is a salary dump for some expirings. Anything else is a waste of time that just delays the real problem.

[emunney]

If it is Biedrins coming back then I have ZERO interest unless it also comes with a 1st round pick.

He's just a filler. If Curry is attached, I don't care.

A filler? The dude makes $9 million per year for three years. He averages 1.8 PPG and 3.9 RPG.

If you are okay with taking him then I better not ever hear your complain about Hammond signing Gooden for under $7 million per year while he is averaging 14.2 PPG and 6.6 RPG.

Not everybody has ppg and rpg as their only measuring stick.

[worthlessBucks]

I think we are barking up the wrong tree in focusing on David Lee. I'd guess the Warriors would want a Bogut, Lee, Monta, Klay core. And putting Lee in this completely screws up our payroll. Kohl won't go for that.

If I had to speculate, they are dangling Udoh in the deal but we want Klay instead. And thus things hang.

Agreed. All snags could be avoided if they had their 2012 pick to give away.

[europa]

I think we are barking up the wrong tree in focusing on David Lee. I'd guess the Warriors would want a Bogut, Lee, Monta, Klay core. And putting Lee in this completely screws up our payroll. Kohl won't go for that.

If I had to speculate, they are dangling Udoh in the deal but we want Klay instead. And thus things hang.

I think that's likely. However, it wouldn't surprise me if the Warriors are saying if you want Thompson and Curry you need to take back a bad contract and Lee has a very bad one.

[Sherman Douglas]

Not everybody has ppg and rpg as their only measuring stick.

So what is Biedrins' saving grace? The "it" factor?

[MiltownMadness]

I think we are barking up the wrong tree in focusing on David Lee. I'd guess the Warriors would want a Bogut, Lee, Monta, Klay core. And putting Lee in this completely screws up our payroll. Kohl won't go for that.

If I had to speculate, they are dangling Udoh in the deal but we want Klay instead. And thus things hang.

I think that's likely. However, it wouldn't surprise me if the Warriors are saying if you want Thompson and Curry you need to take back a bad contract and Lee has a very bad one.

I would take Biedrins if it meant getting Klay and Curry, easily.

[JustinCredible]

Not everybody has ppg and rpg as their only measuring stick.

Agreed, but please tell me about the measuring stick that we are using in not minding taking on $9 million per year for this filler?

[trwi7]

Not everybody has ppg and rpg as their only measuring stick.

So what is Biedrins' saving grace? The "it" factor?

Sleeping on pancakes.

[LUKE23]

Not everybody has ppg and rpg as their only measuring stick.

Agreed, but please tell me about the measuring stick that we are using in not minding taking on $9 million per year for this filler?

Getting Curry? None of this is rocket science.

[JustinCredible]

I think we are barking up the wrong tree in focusing on David Lee. I'd guess the Warriors would want a Bogut, Lee, Monta, Klay core. And putting Lee in this completely screws up our payroll. Kohl won't go for that.

If I had to speculate, they are dangling Udoh in the deal but we want Klay instead. And thus things hang.

If that is the case then we have to be looking at Monta if Bogut and Jax are included. Not much else works salary-wise if Monta or Lee aren't included unless it is just Bogut being traded.

Bogut for Curry, Klay, and Kwame works.

[JustinCredible]

Not everybody has ppg and rpg as their only measuring stick.

Agreed, but please tell me about the measuring stick that we are using in not minding taking on $9 million per year for this filler?

Getting Curry? None of this is rocket science.

Then I pass. Which also isn't rocket science.

[LUKE23]

That's fine, but I don't get why you're confused about taking on Biedrins if we land Curry. What do you want, a bunch of young expirings in addition? That isn't how NBA trades work.

[JustinCredible]

That's fine, but I don't get why you're confused about taking on Biedrins if we land Curry. What do you want, a bunch of young expirings in addition? That isn't how NBA trades work.

Well I don't want an injury prone guard and a bad contract for one of the best centers in the NBA. Call me crazy.

I would take Klay, Kwame, and Curry for Bogut.
I would take Lee, Curry, and Kwame for Bogut and Gooden.
I would take a lot of things that included Curry as long as it doesn't include Biedrins.

You act as if Curry is Michael Jordan.

[emunney]

Yeah, I also wouldn't want Andris as the salary filler unless we're getting substantially more value. But there's a big difference in complaining about taking that contract on as part of a trade and signing Drew Gooden out of the blue.