Trade Deadline Rumors Thread (Update pg. 24)

[HartfordWhalers]

Philly would have the rights to both Hickson and Thompson next year if they extend a qualifying offer after the season I believe. Thus, Philly would have this year and next to evaluate if need be. As for this year, I agree with what you are saying about it being tough to acclimate without much practice time, but I would think either of these guys could come in fairly quickly and play post defense, rebound, and get an occasional ball throw into them without having many plays called for them. For a skill guy, I would be far more concerned than I would for either of these two.

Philly would have the right to match any contract if they extend the q/o's. But in the extent that someone offers a contract, they would need to figure out what to do asap. Baring that, having a player play out on the q/o (as Hawes is now) risks that they leave for nothing in a year and limits your ability to trade them and mitigate this loss. There really isn't a reason to trade picks for an upcoming free agent unless, a) you are willing to resign them, b) your dumping an outgoing salary you wanted to dump, or c) your getting that missing piece needed for this postseason.

Personally, I wouldn't mind Thompson hanging around so he fits a) for me. Hickson doesn't.

[Gsraider]

Philly would have the right to match any contract if they extend the q/o's. But in the extent that someone offers a contract, they would need to figure out what to do asap. Baring that, having a player play out on the q/o (as Hawes is now) risks that they leave for nothing in a year and limits your ability to trade them and mitigate this loss. There really isn't a reason to trade picks for an upcoming free agent unless, a) you are willing to resign them, b) your dumping an outgoing salary you wanted to dump, or c) your getting that missing piece needed for this postseason. Personally, I wouldn't mind Thompson hanging around so he fits a) for me. Hickson doesn't.

How often do you see restricted free agents sign with other clubs? Sure, it's a risk but one that I would be willing to take on either Hickson or Thompson if the pricetag is something like Philly's trade exception (which expires after the trade deadline anyway), 2nd round picks, etc. As for the players, I think both could fit for Philly. As for Hickson, he is certainly flawed with bad hands and mediocre offensive skills in general, but he is very athletic and can be active. Whatever the case, as a backup big man, I think you could do worse and probably better than L. Allen. As for Thompson, he is also medicore, although a pretty decent post defender. However, as a reserve big man, he becomes a pretty nice addition. It's just that he's an adequate starter at best. In the end, I could see why neither of these guys would excite you, which is why Philly would only be paying a pittance to get them. If they pan out, great. If not, you say goodbye. They both have size, potential and upside though, and could provide some insurance and depth if Hawes cannot make it back or is limited for the rest of the year.

[HartfordWhalers]

Philly would have the right to match any contract if they extend the q/o's. But in the extent that someone offers a contract, they would need to figure out what to do asap. Baring that, having a player play out on the q/o (as Hawes is now) risks that they leave for nothing in a year and limits your ability to trade them and mitigate this loss. There really isn't a reason to trade picks for an upcoming free agent unless, a) you are willing to resign them, b) your dumping an outgoing salary you wanted to dump, or c) your getting that missing piece needed for this postseason. Personally, I wouldn't mind Thompson hanging around so he fits a) for me. Hickson doesn't.

How often do you see restricted free agents sign with other clubs? Sure, it's a risk but one that I would be willing to take on either Hickson or Thompson if the pricetag is something like Philly's trade exception (which expires after the trade deadline anyway), 2nd round picks, etc. As for the players, I think both could fit for Philly. As for Hickson, he is certainly flawed with bad hands and mediocre offensive skills in general, but he is very athletic and can be active. Whatever the case, as a backup big man, I think you could do worse and probably better than L. Allen. As for Thompson, he is also medicore, although a pretty decent post defender. However, as a reserve big man, he becomes a pretty nice addition. It's just that he's an adequate starter at best. In the end, I could see why neither of these guys would excite you, which is why Philly would only be paying a pittance to get them. If they pan out, great. If not, you say goodbye. They both have size, potential and upside though, and could provide some insurance and depth if Hawes cannot make it back or is limited for the rest of the year.

You don't often see restricted free agents switch teams. However, a fair number do sign offer sheets that get matched (Deandre Jordan), or take the offer sheets unsigned back to their teams and ask them to match it with the hometown raises (Marc Gasol). Being able to offer a 5th year also helps the home team keep their players.

But most restricted players are either being locked up long term, or relegated to the vet min style contracts. Very few players end up signing the q/o and giving another cheap peek at them. Last year it was Hawes, Nick Young, Jeff Green (sort of) and Marco Belinelli total in the entire league. Restricted free agents are ___ or get off the pot time, so if your not planning on committing (and they aren't a min salary player) you should trade them to someone who is.

[KrazySixersD]

the point would mainly be for next year for amnestying brand insurance.... that way we can amnesty brand, and have thompson or hickson here to take over incase we cant get a big name... both of those 2 can start at PF and do quite well

[ZzAzZ]

I don't want to amnesty Brand if we aren't signing any star level player, he is still a very good defender and will be a very valuable expiring trade chip next year.

[Ben]

Don't know if you guys are interested in some of today's tweeted trade rumors, but just in case you are I'll post a bunch. Credit to poster Jordan45822 for gathering most of them.

Alex Kennedy ‏ @AlexKennedyNBA
League source believes a Jamal Crawford trade is coming. Nothing is imminent, but that may end up being the first domino to fall.

Ken Berger ‏ @KBergCBS
The Blazers and Clips are discussing a deal that would send Jamal Crawford to L.A. for Eric Bledsoe and Ryan Gomes, sources say.

Jarrod N Rudolph ‏ @MisterRudolph
League sources have told me a Dwight Howard trade is not coming. Magic on the verge of blockbuster deal.

Jarrod N Rudolph ‏ @MisterRudolph
Sources say Magic, Warriors & Hornets are discussing 3-team deal that would send Ellis and others to Magic. Nothing imminent at this point

Jarrod N Rudolph ‏ @MisterRudolph
Magic players said to be discussed: Redick, Q.Richardson, Turkoglu, Anderson and Orton. Hornets believed to be unloading Kaman in the deal

Jarrod N Rudolph ‏ @MisterRudolph
Discussed deal would send Ellis, Dorell Wright and Andris Biedrins to the Magic, sources said.

Sam Amick ‏ @sam_amick
I repeat: Don't expect Dwight Howard-obsessed Warriors owner Joe Lacob to help Orlando keep Dwight Howard in any way. That is all.

[KrazySixersD]

thats true too... how are we going to make that decision though when we will have to make it before knowing if we can win out on a RFA?

[KrazySixersD]

dude what?

there is NO WAY the magic can get ellis without giving up howard... there ONLY tradeable assets on that entire roster are anderson and redick

the warriors have no need for redick with curry already there, and they have no need for anderson with david lee there

theres no way this can be true... hedo is a throw in in a deal.. hes not a good piece the recieving team of hedo is getting a BAD piece...

ill be livid if the magic weasel there way into ellis for nothing

[KKell2507]

A guy I wouldnt mind seeing us go after is Larry Sanders. Hes locked up but pretty cheap, not much more than Brackins and is starting to show signs of potential. Great shotblocker and quick and has length. Would fit our uptempo style and would get easier buckets with us than he currently does in Milwaukee's slower pace. His last 10 games, 7pts, 4.9reb, 2.3blks in just 16.3min per game. Id love him if he could give us those numbers in just 16 min of action and could be a great pickup for the playoffs.

something like nocioni, brackins, and a 1st rd pick for Sanders and Beno Udrih.

We lose nothing cap space wise, but get two potential needs basically for a mid 20s 1st rd pick. udrih can be a good backup pg for the rest of the year incase an injury occurs.

Milwaukee does it because they get a prospect in Brackins who cant find time in Philly and a 1st rd pick while adding no cap space and only losing a prospect theyve had a hard time finding minutes for themselves.

[PhilasFinest]

Sanders would be a nice pickup as a potential Rim protector.

Def would offer Brackins both 2nds in the speights deal and see what happens.
(gooden and illyasova are
Bob producing now)

[sixerfan1976]

some talk with ATL about hinrich and Vlad Rad for meeks and Nocioni. we asked for Ivan Johnson who is the guy that got a double double on us last time we played but they seem hesitant to deal him.

Hinrich would be a good backup point guard with Lou at the 2.

Turner obviously is playing himself off the trade block....so like Eskin said the other night...if they do anything...it will be small

[ProcessDoctor]

Thanks SF. Seems like a lateral move, but Hinrich is definitely a nice veteran presence to have. Not sure he'd be more valuable than Meeks. Any interest in Josh Smith?

[theo42]

some talk with ATL about hinrich and Vlad Rad for meeks and Nocioni. we asked for Ivan Johnson who is the guy that got a double double on us last time we played but they seem hesitant to deal him.

Hinrich would be a good backup point guard with Lou at the 2.

Turner obviously is playing himself off the trade block....so like Eskin said the other night...if they do anything...it will be small

Hmmm...

How many more years does Hinrich have on his deal?

Not sure I'm feeling this deal that much...

[sixerfan1976]

hinrich is a free agent end of year.....

[PhilasFinest]

Hinrich is a solid veteran guard, he can defend and hit the 3...plus an exp.

Rad is basically Meeks but 6'10. He can shoot and that's it.

[KrazySixersD]

thats a good deal... whats hinrich's expiring amount?

hinrich can shoot the 3, play point, and defend the 1 and 2 spot VERY well.. hes a VERY good defender

rad would play some minutes at 3 and spread the floor, turner would the not have to play 40 minutes a night... not bad

[sixers hoops]

Hinrich is a solid veteran guard, he can defend and hit the 3...plus an exp.

Rad is basically Meeks but 6'10. He can shoot and that's it.

Yeah. Not mind-blowing, but a nice little deal.

[51X3RF4N]

Pft..whatever. Turner playing himself off the trade block...so I guess they think we are good to go on the NBA Championship run then? I hate this organization. I wish they would **** or get off the pot. Stop saying you want to win, but then not making the necessary moves to do so. Instead of a mid-1st round pick and a 1st round exit, we will have a late 1st round pick and a potential 2nd round exit, but likely still a 1st round exit again.

What a waste of a season.

[SparksFly87]

Josh Smith and Hinrich for Lou Will, Thaddues Young and Nocioni. Breakup the Doug Collins love fest with the bench players and bring a elite shotblocker and future allstar powerforward. We could get the most out of Josh Smith skill set. Possibly entice Dwight Howard with Jrue, Turner, Iggy and j smoove. Hinrich in addition brings defensive toughness and addition outside shooting.

[underpressure]

Well, the Hawks must be assuming that Meeks is a better shooter than Hinrich and Radmanovic. Otherwise they would have no reason to trade two serviceable players for one.

On the first sight, it seems to favor the Sixers but Meeks can hit three point shots in high volumes and thus be a game changer in certain sequences of the game. In this stage of the career, I don't think that Hinrich and Rad can do this.