Official Speculation Thread (Pt XVII, Mods Close)

sChOlaRlY_Magi · Post #1381 » by **sChOlaRlY_Magi** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:54 pm

Zo - That's why I bought my Jersey's as well.

I'm down to burn my jersey if you are... Probably even if you aren't!

magicman123 · Post #1382 » by **magicman123** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:54 pm

iTs JusT zo wrote:
ChosenSavior wrote:
magicman123 wrote:we cant get monta freaking ellis, but the nets might end up trading for deron williams and dwight howard in less than a year

Just unreal...

Superstars dont mean you will win anything. Look at the Knicks.

The nets will be better than the knicks because deron and dwight compliment eachother really well...but the nets are the nets and they will never be relevant in the championship picture.

i was saying, we cant even trade for a non all star but the nets get deron and dwight...damn someone help us out :lol:

rcklsscognition · Post #1383 » by **rcklsscognition** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:55 pm

So J-Rich is in talks to be headed to the Wolves? I guess for Beasley?

iTs JusT zo · Post #1384 » by **iTs JusT zo** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:55 pm

justoneopinion wrote:Fisher/JRich/MWP/Anderson/Bynum
Nelson/Redick/QRich/BBD

or

Nelson/JJ/JRich/Anderson/Lopez
Smith/Brooks/QRich/BBD

plus 2 1st round picks on the nets side

MostValuableGM · Post #1385 » by **MostValuableGM** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:55 pm

EasternMagic wrote:Just take the Nets deal... get lopez brooks and hump and those picks... lets get it over with.

I like the Bynum deal better- We can still compete as we are currently constructed.

Cammo101 · Post #1386 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:55 pm

thelead wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:
You can not properly rebuild if you try to plug Bynum into Dwight's spot. All you do is turn a 4 seed into an 8 seed. Unless of course Bynum busts his knee again, then we gave Dwight away for free.

I cannot refute your argument. I can only say that what NJ is giving us (an also injured, but not so good, free agent center, a decent chucking SG, and Maybe one late lotto pick in a not so deep draft plus a few late 20ish picks) is basically giving Dwight away for free for sure. I would take my chance's on the sen=cond best center's knees than pure trash.

They are giving us 2 or 3 lottery picks and a SG with a lot of upside. Also, despite the fact that Lopez is about to get overpaid, he is a good player and will have value if we decide not to keep him. NJ's trade allows us to get bad enough to make a proper rebuild. 2013 is a very good and top heavy draft, there are Dwight replacements in that draft if we are smart enough to be in position to take one.

magicman123 · Post #1387 » by **magicman123** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:55 pm

justoneopinion wrote:Fisher/JRich/MWP/Anderson/Bynum
Nelson/Redick/QRich/BBD

or

Nelson/JJ/JRich/Anderson/Lopez
Smith/Brooks/QRich/BBD

a smelly fat girl vs a hairy fat girl...damn tough decisions

Cammo101 · Post #1388 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:55 pm

MostValuableGM wrote:
EasternMagic wrote:Just take the Nets deal... get lopez brooks and hump and those picks... lets get it over with.

I like the Bynum deal better- We can still compete as we are currently constructed.

Compete for what?

MostValuableGM · Post #1389 » by **MostValuableGM** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:57 pm

iTs JusT zo wrote:
justoneopinion wrote:Fisher/JRich/MWP/Anderson/Bynum
Nelson/Redick/QRich/BBD

or

Nelson/JJ/JRich/Anderson/Lopez
Smith/Brooks/QRich/BBD

plus 2 1st round picks on the nets side

Bynum has way more upside than Lopez so thats the deal breaker for me - MWP can still defend and Nelso would start - Fisher gives veteran leadership. Not that bad at all - Hedo sucks and no one here likes duhon so we get an above average defender and a veteran guard.

thelead · Post #1390 » by **thelead** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:58 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
thelead wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:
You can not properly rebuild if you try to plug Bynum into Dwight's spot. All you do is turn a 4 seed into an 8 seed. Unless of course Bynum busts his knee again, then we gave Dwight away for free.

I cannot refute your argument. I can only say that what NJ is giving us (an also injured, but not so good, free agent center, a decent chucking SG, and Maybe one late lotto pick in a not so deep draft plus a few late 20ish picks) is basically giving Dwight away for free for sure. I would take my chance's on the sen=cond best center's knees than pure trash.

They are giving us 2 or 3 lottery picks and a SG with a lot of upside. Also, despite the fact that Lopez is about to get overpaid, he is a good player and will have value if we decide not to keep him. NJ's trade allows us to get bad enough to make a proper rebuild. 2013 is a very good and top heavy draft, there are Dwight replacements in that draft if we are smart enough to be in position to take one.

where are these lottery picks coming from. As it stands, NJ is just a few games out of the playoffs today. They will most certainly be better next year. And this draft is week as hell.

MagicStarwipe · Post #1391 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:58 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
MoMM wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:The Spurs got a miracle. They drafted a franchise player in Robinson, couldn't win with him, then he got hurt and they lucked into a second #1 pick franchise player in Duncan.

So I guess all the Magic have to do to compete is get very lucky to draft a superstar, hope that superstar gets hurt and allows us to draft another superstar. Simple enough.

Unfortunely D12 never got hurt in these 7 years...

We only got the first half of our necessary mircle needed to win an NBA title outside of LA or Boston.

We already had our miracle. Shaq and Penny in the space of two seasons. Unfortunately we are the Magic, so you kno what happened next.

Cammo101 · Post #1392 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:58 pm

This team is not a title contender with Dwight right now, let alone without him.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #1393 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:58 pm

EasternMagic wrote:Who's excited for rebuilding?!?!?

I actually kind of am. Bring on the second coming of the heart and hustle team!

Im always down for a good rebuild. I hope next time we dont get a star with all this charisma and character, and playful demeanor. I hope we get someone like DRose or even Durant, all business, all about leading their team.

rcklsscognition · Post #1394 » by **rcklsscognition** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:59 pm

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... Richardson

Has this been posted? Was it legit?

WeAreVenom · Post #1395 » by **WeAreVenom** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:59 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
MostValuableGM wrote:
EasternMagic wrote:Just take the Nets deal... get lopez brooks and hump and those picks... lets get it over with.

I like the Bynum deal better- We can still compete as we are currently constructed.

Compete for what?

A playoff spot, lol.

s/n: I wonder who is worse out of Fisher and Duhon??

Cammo101 · Post #1396 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:00 pm

thelead wrote:where are these lotto picks coming from. As it stands, NJ is just a few games out of the playoffs today. They will most certainly be better next year. And this draft is week as hell.

NJ is currently picking 4th with 22 games to play. It will take them time to gel with Dwight and will have little depth. They won't make the playoffs.

CraZyPraiZ · Post #1397 » by **CraZyPraiZ** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:00 pm

MostValuableGM wrote:
EasternMagic wrote:Just take the Nets deal... get lopez brooks and hump and those picks... lets get it over with.

I like the Bynum deal better- We can still compete as we are currently constructed.

I agree but only be deferment. What the hell would this team do with draft picks? They'd become horrible bench players at best. If Dwight goes then Otis better be on his way to LA carrying his f..ing bags.

Cammo101 · Post #1398 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:00 pm

CraZyPraiZ wrote:
MostValuableGM wrote:
EasternMagic wrote:Just take the Nets deal... get lopez brooks and hump and those picks... lets get it over with.

I like the Bynum deal better- We can still compete as we are currently constructed.

I agree but only be deferment. What the hell would this team do with draft picks. They'd become horrible bench players at best. If Dwight goes then Otis be on his way to LA carrying his f..ing bags.

We have an excellent track record with top 5 picks.

omagic133 · Post #1399 » by **omagic133** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:01 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/219689/Magic_In_Talks_With_Wolves_On_Jason_Richardson

Has this been posted? Was it legit?

Beasley went down with an injury on Monday

magicman123 · Post #1400 » by **magicman123** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:01 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
thelead wrote:where are these lotto picks coming from. As it stands, NJ is just a few games out of the playoffs today. They will most certainly be better next year. And this draft is week as hell.

NJ is currently picking 4th with 22 games to play. It will take them time to gel with Dwight and will have little depth. They won't make the playoffs.

nets are 4.5 games back of the playoffs, not out of the picture