Official Speculation Thread (Pt XVIII: Trade Deadline cont.)

MagicFan41 · Post #1461 » by **MagicFan41** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:44 pm

OK, quick poll....somewhat hypothetical (though looking kind of literal)....IF we do pick one and only one of the following two options in the next day, curious as to what people THINK we will do and what people THINK WE SHOULD do (answer both if you want) between:

NJ package: Dwight + Duhon for Okur, Brooks, Lopez, Humphries + 2 1st rounders

LAL package: Dwight+Hedo+Duhon for Bynum+Metta+Fisher

Ballah · Post #1462 » by **Ballah** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:45 pm

Fisher and Meta have negative value, i rather keep duhon and turk.

Post #1463 » by **eyriq** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:45 pm

John Denton wrote:John Denton ‏ @JohnDenton555

The 4 players with 40 20/20 performances: Moses Malone (109), Hakeem Olajuwon (42), Charles Barkley (41) and #Magic C @Dwighthoward (40).

SubyWill · Post #1464 » by **SubyWill** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:47 pm

magicfan84 wrote:Dwight/Hedo/BBD for MWP/Bynum/Fisher

then

JRich/Orton/Harper/2nd for Beasley/Darko

Jameer/Fisher
JJ/Von
Beasley/MWP/Clark
Anderson/Beasley/Clark
Bynum/Darko

thats a top 4 team in the East if Bynum can stay healthy. I do think he will be a 25/12 type player with more offensive touches and his 70+ free throw %

I would do this in a heartbeat.

Last Guardian · Post #1465 » by **Last Guardian** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:48 pm

MagicFan41 wrote:OK, quick poll....somewhat hypothetical (though looking kind of literal)....IF we do pick one and only one of the following two options in the next day, curious as to what people THINK we will do and what people THINK WE SHOULD do (answer both if you want) between:

NJ package: Dwight + Duhon for Okur, Brooks, Lopez, Humphries + 2 1st rounders

LAL package: Dwight+Hedo+Duhon for Bynum+Metta+Fisher

We should do either one, and I think we will do the NJ one. Only because LA is probably scared of Howard not resigning.

Nolimit1211 · Post #1466 » by **Nolimit1211** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:48 pm

Remember when Dwights baby mama Royce said "He's gonna leave in the summer,sorry but he's gone"... and all you guys let her have it? LOL

Reverse_Angle · Post #1467 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:48 pm

MagicStarwipe wrote:So people really think we have a chance at winning it all this season? Really? Because that would be the only reason to keep him.

i personally think the ceiling is ecf and i am OK with a hard fought 6 game series at that level. could happen if dwight gives 100%.

BUT

I think the main reasoning is there is very little real difference in trading him or letting him walk. People really over-value late lottery picks.

magicfan217 · Post #1468 » by **magicfan217** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:49 pm

Can we please deal Hedo and/or Jrich today? Thanks.

MagicStarwipe · Post #1469 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:49 pm

MagicFan41 wrote:OK, quick poll....somewhat hypothetical (though looking kind of literal)....IF we do pick one and only one of the following two options in the next day, curious as to what people THINK we will do and what people THINK WE SHOULD do (answer both if you want) between:

NJ package: Dwight + Duhon for Okur, Brooks, Lopez, Humphries + 2 1st rounders

LAL package: Dwight+Hedo+Duhon for Bynum+Metta+Fisher

NJ package: Dwight + Duhon for Okur, Brooks, Lopez, Humphries + 2 1st rounders

I believe we should be in full rebuild mode. This gives us a decent draft pick this season and a better chance at sucking next season and hopefully picking up a bonafide stud.

HstryInTheMakng · Post #1470 » by **HstryInTheMakng** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:49 pm

Dwight has torn this city apart and created two different rivaling ideologies on what to do with him. Another reason I hate him, tearing apart the magic fan base.

RickB-Orlando · Post #1471 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:51 pm

Darth Magic wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:
Idunkonyou2 wrote:What I find funny in all of this is the fact Howard never took the Magic off his list so in regards to the "I never changed my mind" comment, well he never did and now it seems like he wants to stay. We shall see.

You know, you're making compelling arguments in your posts. I've never believe anything BS, Bianchi, or Stephen A has said. Why should I start now? Cause it sounds good? Negative.

I just don't get this thinking? If Dwight wants to stay then why not just sign the extension? Why scuttle the Monta trade which would give us a better chance of winning a championship? A guy that he himself named as a player he would like to play with?

Well in fairness, he won't sign an extension because he would be throwing away millions and millions of dollars. So I totally get it when Fegan said an extension was out of the question.

But once we (reportedly) had a trade for his new sidekick Monta, why wouldn't he commit to either (a) opting in / not opting out for next year, or (b) resigning with the Magic now that they made a commitment to get the players he wants to play with?

That one makes no sense to me, and indicates he is leaving no matter what - otherwise he would have at the very least agreed not to opt out and spend 2012-13 in Orlando.

gp123 · Post #1472 » by **gp123** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:51 pm

Lol gonna laugh if Carmelo winds up a net after all

Nyce_1 · Post #1473 » by **Nyce_1** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:51 pm

SubyWill wrote:
magicfan84 wrote:Dwight/Hedo/BBD for MWP/Bynum/Fisher

then

JRich/Orton/Harper/2nd for Beasley/Darko

Jameer/Fisher
JJ/Von
Beasley/MWP/Clark
Anderson/Beasley/Clark
Bynum/Darko

thats a top 4 team in the East if Bynum can stay healthy. I do think he will be a 25/12 type player with more offensive touches and his 70+ free throw %

I would do this in a heartbeat.

So would I.

trebone · Post #1474 » by **trebone** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:52 pm

How awesome would it be if we traded Dwight for Bynum and then the team played with such passion that we actually won a championship beating the Lakers in the finals!!! How bittersweet would that be!

jernigan · Post #1475 » by **jernigan** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:52 pm

If Dwight really does take us for a ride and just walk with no regrets this summer after this "I want to win a championship in Orlando, so roll the dice" stuff yesterday, his image would take a mega blow and his likability factor sorely suffer. Now you don't want that now do you Dwight?

trebone · Post #1476 » by **trebone** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:53 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
SubyWill wrote:
magicfan84 wrote:Dwight/Hedo/BBD for MWP/Bynum/Fisher

then

JRich/Orton/Harper/2nd for Beasley/Darko

Jameer/Fisher
JJ/Von
Beasley/MWP/Clark
Anderson/Beasley/Clark
Bynum/Darko

thats a top 4 team in the East if Bynum can stay healthy. I do think he will be a 25/12 type player with more offensive touches and his 70+ free throw %

I would do this in a heartbeat.

In my mind this is an actual realistic trade idea that could happen. Oh and IBTL!!

BadMofoPimp · Post #1477 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:54 pm

ZeusIsLoose wrote:This is really an easy decision: Keep Dwight. We are going to suck next year regardless. what, just because we have Brook Lopez we will make the playoffs? Umm, no we arent. and NJ picks arent going to be that great either. suck ass next year and in 2013 get a high draft pick. by that time Turk is tradeable at 6 mil only, trade J rich now for Beasley to get rid of that contract, Jameer is off the books. have the opportunity to sign a good FA that offseason and get a good draft pick. Whether we have Lopez and Marshon doesnt change the fact that we will still suck. We arent making the playoffs with those two. I have to think long term and that is to keep Dwight, let him walk, suck next year (which will suck), get a high draft pick and sign a solid FA and start rebuilding. This is the best option for us.

and im NOT taking Bynum on his 80 year old knees. i cringe everytime i see him go up for a rebound thinking his knee cap is going to bust.

Unless the Magic can get a Superstar that keeps them in contention, then why trade to keep the team a mediocre 30-40 win team. I would rather play the young-uns we have here and win 20 games while getting a decent pick in 2013 with over $30 million in cap room to work with.

That right there blows away any trade offer out there now. I would enjoy a team with Ryno, JJ, Liggins, Harper, Clark getting major minutes.

On the other hand, if Dwight ends up resigning, then we are in a Dream scenario. Why are people here thinking it is the end of the world.

I have spoken to many Magic fans today outside RealGM and every single one is happy Dwight is staying. Most are season ticket holders. Only people here are pissed off. I am starting to think people here are 2k12 fans.

ChartFiction · Post #1478 » by **ChartFiction** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:54 pm

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=789yyl3

What do you guys think about this trade?

Knicks Get
Dwight Howard
Josh Smith
Magic Gets
Amare Stoudemire
Al Horford
Hawks Get
Carmelo Anthony
JJ. Reddick
Steve Novak
Josh Harrelson

BelgianMagic · Post #1479 » by **BelgianMagic** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:54 pm

So Melo has asked to be traded & Orlando officials are talking about Dwight's comments today ..

I'd be happy with getting Melo/Chandler for Dwight, I know some of you won't, but that's a great return

MagicFan41 · Post #1480 » by **MagicFan41** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:55 pm

I still personally think, if ATL is willing to "rent" him, which many reports claim they are, and are willing to give up Horford+Smoov, you do that IN A HEARTBEAT. That's an amazing young frontcourt to build around, both on good contracts for their productivity imo. A frontcourt of Smoov, Ryno, Horford would be sick. All you would really need is a legit PG and that team is nasty. That's always been ATL's real problem. What about this:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=8y5ufe9

Resign Ryno this summer, then, in the summer of 2013, you have the room to go after a star PG.

Teague/Duhon
JRich/JJ
Jsmoov/Turk
Ryno/BBD
Horford/BBD