Official Trade Thread XVIII: 1/20/12 - 5/14/12

[truwizfan4evr]

jermaine oneal,jj johnson,dooling,avery bradley, clippers pick for blatch, mcgee and nick young

deal?

ill pass

[montestewart]

jermaine oneal,jj johnson,dooling,avery bradley, clippers pick for blatch, mcgee and nick young

deal?

I'd do it. Wizards are freed of Blatche's salary and headache, and get a pick that projects in the low 20s or late teens. Cost is giving up on McGee, his day late and dollar short development, and his unrealistic salary expectations, plus $2.7 million for the Wizards to get a look at Bradley and Johnson next year, with no obligation after. Any of Bradley, Johnson, or the pick could be moved in other deals regardless.

[Rafael122]

jermaine oneal,jj johnson,dooling,avery bradley, clippers pick for blatch, mcgee and nick young

deal?

Um actually I would do this deal. Young isn't coming back, the Wizards want Blatche off this team and McGee probably isn't going to come back and we have limited trade suitors for him.

Bradley and Johnson are on their rookie contracts, rotational guys, end of the bench guys. We'd get another first round pick and the possibility of getting a guy like Tyler Zeller or someone. Hell, we could trade that second first round pick plus our 2 2nd round picks this year and see if we could move back into the lottery again. It's a shrewd deal. Boston would be doing us a favor by taking Blatche off our hands.

[Dat2U]

We trade a young productive starting center for a couple NBDL'ers, expiring contracts and late 1st round pick? Ugh...

I'm not surprised some like it. It gets rid of a headache, but to me it's akin to throwing out the baby with the bath water. This is a talent driven league. You wanna be GMs can talk about all the super smart veterans we can acquire or raising the collective IQ and that's fine. But without talent, we still aren't winning. And McGee for all of the shortcomings, is still arguably one of the most talented players in the league, and even though he hasn't come close to reaching that potential, he's still very productive. Of course, he'll never be a rocket scientist but he doesn't need to be.

Again, I'd love to see how McGee would adapt in a veteran locker room where he's continually challenged and held accountable by his peers. I don't think McGee's a bad person or lazy. Two issues that can't be fixed. He just lacks maturity and he's probably been coddled a little too much by mama.

Dealing him certainly should be an option, but using him as a salary dump or pawning him off for spare parts only serves to make our cupboard even more barren than it is now.

[montestewart]

It's a pretty compelling argument Dat2U, and I might have been a little hasty embracing that trade, but as talented as McGee is, I have this growing fear that the best he ever plays will be just before the Wizards pay too much to keep him, or lose him to too high an offer, and get nothing in return.

[dangermouse]

I'd do that trade. Sure, it can be seen as throwing out the baby with the bathwater, but this is one dumb baby.

We get out of Blatche's deal. We take a look at Avery Bradley as a possible long-term Wall/Crawford backup. We get to see what Seraphin can do with a starting job. We also get a late 1st...

I dont see very many negatives. We amnesty Rashard in the off season and bam, we have cap space to at least attempt to sign some of the better FA's.

[Jay81]

With a new coach and GM..i would like to see what McGee can do before we give away a center that scores 12 pts,10 reb and 4 blocks a game

[truwizfan4evr]

I think we should to keep Javalve now. He got to much potenial.

[Rafael122]

We trade a young productive starting center for a couple NBDL'ers, expiring contracts and late 1st round pick? Ugh...

I'm not surprised some like it. It gets rid of a headache, but to me it's akin to throwing out the baby with the bath water. This is a talent driven league. You wanna be GMs can talk about all the super smart veterans we can acquire or raising the collective IQ and that's fine. But without talent, we still aren't winning. And McGee for all of the shortcomings, is still arguably one of the most talented players in the league, and even though he hasn't come close to reaching that potential, he's still very productive. Of course, he'll never be a rocket scientist but he doesn't need to be.

Again, I'd love to see how McGee would adapt in a veteran locker room where he's continually challenged and held accountable by his peers. I don't think McGee's a bad person or lazy. Two issues that can't be fixed. He just lacks maturity and he's probably been coddled a little too much by mama.

Dealing him certainly should be an option, but using him as a salary dump or pawning him off for spare parts only serves to make our cupboard even more barren than it is now.

Dude he's got 4 years and he still makes the same mistakes any other rookie would make. Anthony Davis already has a higher basketball IQ than McGee would ever have. Ever. Million dollar talent, 10 cent brain. He's coddled, as you put it...it's time for the Wizards to stop babying their players. Wall is 21, dude doesn't need his mom speaking for him.

And add to that he's got no value around the league man. We couldn't even trade him for Bogut who's barely played the last 3 years. That's how low his value is. It'd be a miracle if we got a pick in return.

It's the same **** we went through with Kwame. Don't trade him, he's got so much potential. Just wait. Meh. McGee, Young and Blatche are part of that losing culture. They need to be off this team.

[dangermouse]

Dorrel Wright wanted to be part of that trade, he seems to want out...

Blatche, Turiaf, Nick Young
4
David Lee, Dorrel Wright

GSW saves money

We move a couple of dumbasses and an expirer for two guys who help out at positions of need.

May need picks involved to become more fair to both teams?

[truwizfan4evr]

Dorrel Wright wanted to be part of that trade, he seems to want out...

Blatche, Turiaf, Nick Young
4
David Lee, Dorrel Wright

GSW saves money

We move a couple of dumbasses and an expirer for two guys who help out at positions of need.

May need picks involved to become more fair to both teams?

That would be a great deal.

[Illuminaire]

The difficult part with McGee is that his present production still makes him a league average center, even with his defensive liabilities.

If he gets paid appropriately, in the 7-8.5 million range, then we should keep him. At least then there's future trade possibilities. He's not unproductive, he's just deeply flawed.

The issue is that many of us don't think he'll ever fix his deficiencies to become more than league average overall (including myself), so he's just... not that good. And if he wants to be paid like a star, we can't keep him. It's just not worth it. So I very much understand the desire to get something now and not take that gamble. If the right trade comes along, we have to do it. But, since he's not actually terrible, trading him for nothing isn't a good idea.

BAH. I despite the enigma that is figuring out Javale McGee.

[Rafael122]

If the right trade comes along? He's either getting traded tomorrow or we're not keeping him. Why else is he being thrown in with Blatche? I think Ted is sitting back, realizing he got burned with the Blatche contract (if I'm not mistaken, his 5 yr/$15 million contract would have ended this offseason), he's probably not going to make the mistake again. Blatche is the only long term contract Leonsis has given out. McGee is who he is, he's not going to change. Ever.