A couple questions

PineTreez · Post #1 » by **PineTreez** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:06 am

1) How good do you think this team becomes if it acquires Beasley and Sessions, while losing only Blake? If we do get these two, would you still want Arenas as another spark off the bench (if he's still capable)?

2) Am I the only once who's noticed that Kobe's been attacking the basket more and more lately? These last maybe....5 games, he's moving well, blowing past guys, driving in. I love it. Anyone else notice this?

crazy8ights · Post #2 » by **crazy8ights** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:11 am

PineTreez wrote:1) How good do you think this team becomes if it acquires Beasley and Sessions, while losing only Blake? If we do get these two, would you still want Arenas as another spark off the bench (if he's still capable)?

2) Am I the only once who's noticed that Kobe's been attacking the basket more and more lately? These last maybe....5 games, he's moving well, blowing past guys, driving in. I love it. Anyone else notice this?

If we perform the series of movements you mentioned it will definitely put the league on alert. Imagine if we won those road games sigh oh well we're building momentum. The addition of those 2 would help lower Kobe minutes.

Yes it has been noticed since the WAS game, the bigger thing here is more trust in Andrew.

Dr Aki · Post #3 » by **Dr Aki** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:28 am

kobe/drew combo back to their 2007 days?

EArl · Post #4 » by **EArl** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:05 am

If we get Beasley he can either start or play back up in the SF or PF. I think the trade could put us over the top. I wonder if we will be dealing Gasol.

Inglewood to HW · Post #5 » by **Inglewood to HW** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:45 am

PineTreez wrote:1) How good do you think this team becomes if it acquires Beasley and Sessions, while losing only Blake?

Apparently our wins increase by a projected 7.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=7kbws4c

Doormatt · Post #6 » by **Doormatt** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:08 am

the trade machine uses PER to project wins, and its really a meaningless stat for projecting wins added or impact on a team. its a nice ballpark stat for judging current offensive production though (since it does nothing for defense).

i think we'll be slightly better, if only because it gives us somebody who can actually score off the bench. and sessions is, at best, a slight upgrade over blake. really will not make us any better than teams that are already ahead of us.

Imadogg · Post #7 » by **Imadogg** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:24 am

Doormatt wrote:i think we'll be slightly better, if only because it gives us somebody who can actually score off the bench. and sessions is, at best, a slight upgrade over blake. really will not make us any better than teams that are already ahead of us.

Sessions is better than Blake in every way besides shooting the 3. He's a much better PG than Blake. I really like Blake though, wish we could keep him and still get those 2.

Doormatt · Post #8 » by **Doormatt** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:39 am

shooting the 3 is a pretty big deal when you play next to a ball dominant wing and 2 bigs. in fact outside shooting is incredibly important in that scenario. and sessions really cant shoot. he also does nothing for the cavs offense, certainly in comparison to blake. sessions is average, and he doesnt really have a skill set the lakers need. his ability to penetrate would be nice, but having a competent shooter is nicer.

Imadogg · Post #9 » by **Imadogg** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:45 am

That's why I don't wanna give up Blake, because he's really the one guy on our team who can still shoot 3s whereas the rest of the shooters forget how to shoot. But Sessions' contract, youth, passing, control of the ball, etc etc I believe would really help this team.

ALL HAIL · Post #10 » by **ALL HAIL** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:27 pm

With Blake gone, who has always been dead weight on this roster (another busted MLE signing), they really, really should use that TPE on a PG who is big enough to play alongside Fisher and Goudelock, but also still be able to check PGs as well ... Hinrich fits that bill and I think Sessions does to (but not sure how well he defends PGs or SGs).

IF they use that TPE on a big, oversized PG, I would definitely sign Arenas to a contract as well:

PG - Fisher - Hinrich
SG - Bryant - Arenas
C - Bynum - Gasol
PF - Beasley - Murphy
SF - World Peace - Barnes -

Yellow Flash · Post #11 » by **Yellow Flash** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:33 pm

eablinksum wrote:If we get Beasley he can either start or play back up in the SF or PF. I think the trade could put us over the top. I wonder if we will be dealing Gasol.

Gasol for Deron Williams

come on lakers, make it happen

VIPER8382 · Post #12 » by **VIPER8382** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:44 pm

Imadogg wrote:
Doormatt wrote:i think we'll be slightly better, if only because it gives us somebody who can actually score off the bench. and sessions is, at best, a slight upgrade over blake. really will not make us any better than teams that are already ahead of us.

Sessions is better than Blake in every way besides shooting the 3. He's a much better PG than Blake. I really like Blake though, wish we could keep him and still get those 2.

Doormatt wrote:shooting the 3 is a pretty big deal when you play next to a ball dominant wing and 2 bigs. in fact outside shooting is incredibly important in that scenario. and sessions really cant shoot. he also does nothing for the cavs offense, certainly in comparison to blake. sessions is average, and he doesnt really have a skill set the lakers need. his ability to penetrate would be nice, but having a competent shooter is nicer.

3 point shooting this season:

Sessions 26 of 62 for 41.9%
Blake 33 of 101 for 32.7%
Fisher 24 of 74 for 32.4%

Of course you have to keep in mind that Sessions has offensive juggernauts like Samardo Samuels, Daniel Gibson, some guy named Gee, Tristan Thompson, Omri Casspi taking attention from him, while Blake and Fisher have to settle for a supporting cast of Bryant, Gasol, Bynum, etc to turn attention away from him. Oh wait wouldn't that most likely mean that Blake and Fisher are getting the better looks on top of shooting much worse, that may blow the last argument against Sessions that you had.

DrewBynum77 · Post #13 » by **DrewBynum77** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:45 pm

PineTreez wrote:1) How good do you think this team becomes if it acquires Beasley and Sessions, while losing only Blake? If we do get these two, would you still want Arenas as another spark off the bench (if he's still capable)?

we already won, we already won, ain't no need to play no more games!

No, I wouldn't want Arenas but If the FO hires him is because they saw something on him...

PineTreez wrote:2) Am I the only once who's noticed that Kobe's been attacking the basket more and more lately? These last maybe....5 games, he's moving well, blowing past guys, driving in. I love it. Anyone else notice this?

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Yep. He's fresh off the AS break. Now Coach Brown NEEDS to cut his minutes in the last 10 or so games of the season.

Luckily we can head into the final 2-3 games with nothing to lose / gain on the standings so he can rest kobe, gasol and bynum

that would be great because I heard the first 2 games of the playoff will be a B2B.

Imadogg · Post #14 » by **Imadogg** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:34 pm

VIPER8382 wrote:
Imadogg wrote:
Doormatt wrote:i think we'll be slightly better, if only because it gives us somebody who can actually score off the bench. and sessions is, at best, a slight upgrade over blake. really will not make us any better than teams that are already ahead of us.

Sessions is better than Blake in every way besides shooting the 3. He's a much better PG than Blake. I really like Blake though, wish we could keep him and still get those 2.

Doormatt wrote:shooting the 3 is a pretty big deal when you play next to a ball dominant wing and 2 bigs. in fact outside shooting is incredibly important in that scenario. and sessions really cant shoot. he also does nothing for the cavs offense, certainly in comparison to blake. sessions is average, and he doesnt really have a skill set the lakers need. his ability to penetrate would be nice, but having a competent shooter is nicer.

3 point shooting this season:

Sessions 26 of 62 for 41.9%
Blake 33 of 101 for 32.7%
Fisher 24 of 74 for 32.4%

Of course you have to keep in mind that Sessions has offensive juggernauts like Samardo Samuels, Daniel Gibson, some guy named Gee, Tristan Thompson, Omri Casspi taking attention from him, while Blake and Fisher have to settle for a supporting cast of Bryant, Gasol, Bynum, etc to turn attention away from him. Oh wait wouldn't that most likely mean that Blake and Fisher are getting the better looks on top of shooting much worse, that may blow the last argument against Sessions that you had.

Holy **** when did this happen.. career he's been reluctant to even shoot the 3.. this is an amazing revelation, thank you....

Hope he doesn't get hit with the Lakers curse. "Oh you can shoot 3s? Welcome to the Lakers, say goodbye to shooting ability"