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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXI: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#1021 » by OrlandO » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:18 am

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Spoke to HOU g Courtney Lee and told him Dwight would love to have him back in OTown. Lee: "Tell Otis I'm down." Me: "I'll just tell Dwight."

Didn't Courtney Lee bad mouth Dwight's situation recently? I remember he was vocal on twitter while the whole trade request thing got out....
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXI: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#1022 » by ADRajX » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:19 am

OMG, CP3! Again :D .. What about Josh Smith... or even Ellis? ... I think there are some great FAs in the summer of '13

We just have to clear cap.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXI: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#1023 » by MagicFan32 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:20 am

IGotDaMagicInMe wrote:
DJRajX wrote:
MagicFan32 wrote:basically, magic have tons of capspace, caller pointed it out, later on Jarrod got more into it, talked about how Monta thought he came here.

can't help but think Fegan screwed us outta Monta

He really did :evil:

All along it was stupid manipulative Dan Fegan screwing with Dwight's head... Thank God Dwight finally saw through his bull and realized what he was trying to do... Dan just wanted more money (Dwight goes to the Nets), he didn't care about Dwight. I hate sports agents sometimes... dude deserves to get fired and lose one of his big clients.

Thank You Dwight for coming back to your senses (and thank you family, you're teammates, and your close friends for talking some sense into you as well)... if this was pro-wrestling... the Face-Turn was successful. Sign that ETO before 3pm, and let's party :rockon: ... the OLD Dwight is back.


only sometimes?

I bet dwight realized how Fegan screwed him, if Howard Opts in 2 days ago, Monta is a magic because Lacob no longer has his fantasy.

Fegan can get bent
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXI: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#1024 » by IGotDaMagicInMe » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:20 am

DJRajX wrote:Heel: Dan Fegan

Face: Dwight Howard

PPV: Wrestlemania

Match: Ladder match (with the ETO hanging above the ring)

Let's GO! Ring the bell. :lol:


Prokorov interferes and just when fegan gets to the top of the ladder, the magic run in and push fegan off of it and help dwight to his feet for the win and they carry him around the ring! YAY!
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXI: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#1025 » by IGotDaMagicInMe » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:21 am

How much cap will we have in 2013?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXI: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#1026 » by FFBlitzace » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:22 am

IGotDaMagicInMe wrote:
DJRajX wrote:Heel: Dan Fegan

Face: Dwight Howard

PPV: Wrestlemania

Match: Ladder match (with the ETO hanging above the ring)

Let's GO! Ring the bell. :lol:


Prokorov interferes and just when fegan gets to the top of the ladder, the magic run in and push fegan off of it and help dwight to his feet for the win and they carry him around the ring! YAY!



Liggins with the tazer ftw.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXI: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#1027 » by bigdogdylan5 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:22 am

DJRajX wrote:OMG, CP3! Again :D .. What about Josh Smith... or even Ellis? ... I think there are some great FAs in the summer of '13

We just have to clear cap.

Really want to move Jrich for a Backup PG that has only two years left on deal
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXI: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#1028 » by Coach_McGuirk » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:22 am

IGotDaMagicInMe wrote:How much cap will we have in 2013?



http://hoopshype.com/salaries/orlando.htm
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXI: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#1029 » by MagicFan41 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:23 am

DJRajX wrote:What about Josh Smith... or even Ellis? ... I think there are some great FAs in the summer of '13

We just have to clear cap.



CP3, potentially Deron (doubt he doesn't leave to Dallas if Dwight opts in tho), JSmith, Iggy, Monta, KMart...

Surely we could get at LEAST one of those if we have good capspace (which we should)?? I mean, CP3, Deron, JSmith, Monta are all good friends with Dwight and want to play with him badly! This is well documented. I almost think it makes more sense for Dwight to sign an extension rather than a 1-yr opt in. The 1-yr opt in leaves a lot of uncertainty (for both the Magic and the potential FAs to come here)...

Another issue is that all of these guys would have to give up that extra 5th yr guarantee bird rights as well as the max raises on their contracts. I assume some of them (Monta, JSmith) who are unhappy with their situations wouldn't mind this though? I wouldn't be shocked at all if JSmith ends up demanding a trade in the summer...I think if Dwight opts in, we might get him on draft day. Might have to give up Ryan though....which is why it stinks. Would theoretically be better to wait until summer 2013, but that leaves a lot up in the air.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXI: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#1030 » by ADRajX » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:23 am

Howard must be so p*ssed off at Fegan... we'd have Ellis in a Magic jersey if it wasn't for stupid Fegan and his selfish agendas... and all the bull he told Dwight about opting-out and heading to the Nets... the trust is gone between them. But what's done is done with Ellis... Fegan F'd us hard and kept Dwight second-guessing... deal took too long, GS got impatient and cut us out of the deal. Sigh.

MAYBE there will be some other last minute deal today? Even if it's a minor one? I doubt it.

The main thing is getting Dwight to sign this morning/afternoon.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXI: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#1031 » by OrlandO » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:24 am

Is Dwight still dating that chick from the west coast? If so, what's her twitter handle?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXI: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#1032 » by IGotDaMagicInMe » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:25 am

FFBlitzace wrote:
IGotDaMagicInMe wrote:
DJRajX wrote:Heel: Dan Fegan

Face: Dwight Howard

PPV: Wrestlemania

Match: Ladder match (with the ETO hanging above the ring)

Let's GO! Ring the bell. :lol:


Prokorov interferes and just when fegan gets to the top of the ladder, the magic run in and push fegan off of it and help dwight to his feet for the win and they carry him around the ring! YAY!



Liggins with the tazer ftw.


Cattleprod? :lol:
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXI: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#1033 » by ADRajX » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:25 am

bigdogdylan5 wrote:
DJRajX wrote:OMG, CP3! Again :D .. What about Josh Smith... or even Ellis? ... I think there are some great FAs in the summer of '13

We just have to clear cap.

Really want to move Jrich for a Backup PG that has only two years left on deal

J-Rich, BBD, and Duhon are the main guys to be moved... oh and Hedo as well..... main targets to clear cap.... gotta find near expiring deals somehow.... this summer will be a doozy (HEY that's when this thread returns!)
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXI: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#1034 » by MagicFan32 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:25 am

DJRajX wrote:OMG, CP3! Again :D .. What about Josh Smith... or even Ellis? ... I think there are some great FAs in the summer of '13

We just have to clear cap.

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... /magic.jsp
Hedo is non guaranteed
Jrich wont be hard to move
Ryan and JJ will get raises

Right now, without hedo on the books we have about 15 committed. add Dwights 20, 60 mil cap maybe more. we'll have room for a max player
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I think if you put McGee back then, he would get those blocks just as easily as Russell did. Russell's athleticism was well ahead of the players of his time, and that's about it.
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Post#1035 » by cb1115 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:26 am

HOLY CRAP.

I don't know whether to hate him or love him.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXI: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#1036 » by ADRajX » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:27 am

IGotDaMagicInMe wrote:
FFBlitzace wrote:
IGotDaMagicInMe wrote:
Prokorov interferes and just when fegan gets to the top of the ladder, the magic run in and push fegan off of it and help dwight to his feet for the win and they carry him around the ring! YAY!



Liggins with the tazer ftw.


Cattleprod? :lol:

The sweater vest guy comes from the crowd, gets in the ring, and pushes the ladder over with Fegan falling through a stack of tables.
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Post#1037 » by MagicFan32 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:28 am

LMAO STEPHEN A SMITH SOUNDING LIKE A JACKASS RIGHT NOW
check twitter moron!!! tool.
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Post#1038 » by ADRajX » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:29 am

MagicFan32 wrote:LMAO STEPHEN A SMITH SOUNDING LIKE A JACKASS RIGHT NOW
check twitter moron!!! tool.

OMG :nonono: ... what is his deal this morning?

EDIT* lol tweets are from 6hrs ago (I thought it was 6min ago)... SAS needs to fall back, he attacks way too many people and gets way too heated over little things.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXI: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#1039 » by MagicFan41 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:30 am

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IGotDaMagicInMe wrote:How much cap will we have in 2013?



http://hoopshype.com/salaries/orlando.htm


Depends on what we do in that summer with Hedo and Duhon's semi-guarantees, whether or not Q opts in (I'm sure he prob will)....as well as our ability to cut-and-stretch BBD/JRich. Best case scenario with no other trades (and assuming we re-up Ryan for around $8mil per)....we would only be on the books for $6mil Hedo, $1.5mil Duhon, $8mil Ryno, $2.6 BBD, $2.6 JRich. That's only $20.2 mil. Dwight would be another $20mil basically....leaving us with probably another $20-$22mil available depending on where cap is. If Q opts in, subtract about $3mil. Ideal scenario would be to somehow get rid of Hedo and/or BBD/JRich. That could clear up an extra $8.5 - $11mil. Remember though....this is without Jameer and JJ and no bench. So there's still some work to be done, but I could def see something like

Monta
Liggins
JSmith
Ryno
Dwight

happening...
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXI: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#1040 » by IGotDaMagicInMe » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:30 am

DJRajX wrote:The sweater vest guy comes from the crowd, gets in the ring, and pushes the ladder over with Fegan falling through a stack of tables.


And the tables are on fire
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