Official Speculation Thread (Pt XXI, Mods Close)

[ADRajX]

i never fully understood the stretch provision... they can apply to those only signed or re-signed after the new CBA was ratified, correct? eh... i said Duhon mostly because i just want him off the team (biased).

Hedo's is partially guaranteed following season... still not good though... you're right, we have to move Hedo definitely.

$6mil is a lot of space though for 2014 for Hedo, especially if we will be going after a couple of those big names. Need that gone...

The cut-and-stretch only applies to new contracts (BBD, JRich). How it works is, it's sort of like a semi-amnesty. You can pay a player off for the remainder of his contract, and it only counts against the cap in the following manner:

He only counts against the cap each year for the following calculation: (# yrs left)/(2x yrs left + 1)

So in other words...if we decided to do it in summer 2013 for BBD (who would have $13mil left total for 2 more years)....he would count against the cap for $13mil/(2x 2yrs left + 1) or $13mil/5yrs or $2.6mil against the cap instead of $6.4mil.

+1 great response, thank you

[AhaAha]

So, how much is hedo guaranteed for 2013 if he is partially guaranteed

$6mil... that's for 2013/14

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/orlando.htm (this doesn't mention that Hedo's final year is partially guaranteed, but it's been confirmed here multiple times that it is).

Either way... whether it's non-guaranteed or partially-guaranteed... we have to move him if we have any chance of nabbing a FA in 2013

why Hedo is a starter and one of Dwight's buddies...as is Jameer...
u keep both and get Monta + J.Smith perfect scenario....
Dwight surrounded by his buddies....

[The Effect]

So does anyone know what time these papers are getting signed? It's almost 11pm here in Aus and I'm not getting any sleep til this is done!

yup having this same problem in san diego, 4:45 in the morning, but not going to sleep til those papers are signed!

So seriously, someone from this board hurry up and get to dwights house and wake him up!! No reason for him to sleep til 8am on such a big day!

[glennathan]

Heel: Dan Fegan

Face: Dwight Howard

PPV: Wrestlemania

Match: Ladder match (with the ETO hanging above the ring)

Let's GO! Ring the bell.

Forget Ladder Match. In the words of Triple H "if we do this we go all the way. If we do this we do it inside HELL IN THE CELL"

[ADRajX]

So, how much is hedo guaranteed for 2013 if he is partially guaranteed

$6mil... that's for 2013/14

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/orlando.htm (this doesn't mention that Hedo's final year is partially guaranteed, but it's been confirmed here multiple times that it is).

Either way... whether it's non-guaranteed or partially-guaranteed... we have to move him if we have any chance of nabbing a FA in 2013

why Hedo is a starter and one of Dwight's buddies...as is Jameer...
u keep both and get Monta + J.Smith perfect scenario....
Dwight surrounded by his buddies....

Okay then, if we kept Hedo and Jameer... and just got rid of J-Rich and BBD (for expiring deals), will that be enough for us to get a big FA in 2013? I would assume the cap will be set somewhere between $60-63mil (this season is was around $58ml)

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/orlando.htm
http://www.sportscity.com/NBA/Orlando-Magic-Salaries
http://www.hoopsworld.com/orlando-magic-team-salary

let's crunch some numbers people.

[fendilim]

Jarrod going on WESH 2

Good publicity for realgm

are there links?

[MoMM]

OMG, CP3! Again .. What about Josh Smith... or even Ellis? ... I think there are some great FAs in the summer of '13

We just have to clear cap.

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... /magic.jsp
Hedo is non guaranteed
Jrich wont be hard to move
Ryan and JJ will get raises

Right now, without hedo on the books we have about 15 committed. add Dwights 20, 60 mil cap maybe more. we'll have room for a max player

I dont think JJ will get a raise, he will continue getting 6mi a year, he doesnt deserve more than it, IMO. 6mi is more than MLE, no team would offer him more than MLE.

[Darth Magic]

What the hell is going on? He changed his mind again?

[MagicFan41]

Okay then, if we kept Hedo and Jameer... and just got rid of J-Rich and BBD (for expiring deals), will that be enough for us to get a big FA in 2013? I would assume the cap will be set somewhere between $60-63mil (this season is was around $58ml)

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/orlando.htm
http://www.sportscity.com/NBA/Orlando-Magic-Salaries
http://www.hoopsworld.com/orlando-magic-team-salary

let's crunch some numbers people.

Tough to crunch numbers because it depends on what Jameer's new contract would be, what Ryno's contract would be, etc. I kinda think that Ryno might be sign-and-traded to ATL for JSmith this summer, I dunno. I'm sure Dwight would rather have CP3/Monta than Jameer, and I'm sure he would rather have JSmith than Hedo. The only thing I think that MAYBE we could do (since Jameer, Hedo prob won't be getting any great deals elsewhere), is maybe get them to opt out and sign to like 3 year deals around $5mil per? TOP priority though, has to be focused on clearing as much cap as possible for next summer and/or trading for one of those guys. THEN afterwards we can try to re-sign guys like JJ, Jameer, Hedo (remember we would still have the MLE available for a guy like Jameer/JJ).

[toquito]

Now this is what i like to wake up to in the morning

[MagicFan41]

OMG, CP3! Again .. What about Josh Smith... or even Ellis? ... I think there are some great FAs in the summer of '13

We just have to clear cap.

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... /magic.jsp
Hedo is non guaranteed
Jrich wont be hard to move
Ryan and JJ will get raises

Right now, without hedo on the books we have about 15 committed. add Dwights 20, 60 mil cap maybe more. we'll have room for a max player

I dont think JJ will get a raise, he will continue getting 6mi a year, he doesnt deserve more than it, IMO. 6mi is more than MLE, no team would offer him more than MLE.

Yeh, I kind of think we might save the MLE for JJ or Jameer. We have way more than $15mil committed though. Hedo is $6mil guaranteed, BBD is $6.4mil, Q's option is $3mil, still have Ryno to re-sign. I detailed our scenarios a page or so back....check that out. Realistically, we would prob have about $20mil in caproom that summer. Possibly up to $30mil.

[MagicFan41]

Shaq is coming on 740theGame soon.

[fendilim]

lol at this Jarrod Rudolph haters on the Nets board. hahahahaha

[DwightrulestheEast]

If Dwight really waives his ETO today, we can be players in the summer of 2013 if we do some smart trading.

Would something like this be realistic if we included picks or cash?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=79d46ya

[FFBlitzace]

I have been highly critical of Rudolph in the past, and I can't say I feel any need to make apologies for that. I don't think he's really done anything to deserve much admiration up to this point.

But I will give him his due credit if this all works out the way he says it will. All of these bigger outlets, the Sentinel seemingly among them, look set to be all kinds of butthurt if they end up getting scooped on this.

[IGotDaMagicInMe]

So, for future reference, at what time should we get worried if dwight hasnt signed anything yet? 10? 12?

[MagicFan41]

I have been highly critical of Rudolph in the past, and I can't say I feel any need to make apologies for that. I don't think he's really done anything to deserve admiration.

But I will give him his due credit if this all works out the way he says it will. All of these bigger outlets, the Sentinel seemingly among them, look set to be all kinds of butthurt if they end up getting scooped on this.

I've never not believed Rudolph. I know he is good friends with Dwight, so he doesn't just make stuff up. I think a lot of you guys heard him report rumors, trade-talks etc, and WANTED them to happen so badly that when they didn't (and THE MASS MAJORITY OF RUMORS don't end up coming to fruition) you blamed him and thought he just made stuff up. Can you point to one thing really that he lied about though?

[liquid_softgel]

So, for future reference, at what time should we get worried if dwight hasnt signed anything yet? 10? 12?

You're not worried now?

[WeAreVenom]

So, for future reference, at what time should we get worried if dwight hasnt signed anything yet? 10? 12?

You're not worried now?

If he hasn't signed by 12, we need to press on with trades.

I'm glad that we haven't stopped discussing trades, in the meantime.

[IGotDaMagicInMe]

So, for future reference, at what time should we get worried if dwight hasnt signed anything yet? 10? 12?

You're not worried now?

I mean, I'm still optimistic but as time passes you start getting more worried, ya know?