Discussing Other Teams' Moves

[Ruzious]

I'm not sure what Pop sees in Stephen Jackson, but at least his trade will keep SA from throwing more money... mo money... mo money at Richard Jefferson.

There have been a lot of teams over the years who have probably wondered - what did we see in Stephen Jackson?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I'm not sure what Pop sees in Stephen Jackson, but at least his trade will keep SA from throwing more money... mo money... mo money at Richard Jefferson.

There have been a lot of teams over the years who have probably wondered - what did we see in Stephen Jackson?

They won a championship with Cap'n Jack, when he was a rookie IIRC. Popovich and Duncan have to like the guy personally or he wouldn't be back in SA.

That kid Kawhi Leonard is turning into a beast. Manu is getting his legs. Parker is at the top of his game. Splitter is looking like the guy who beasted in Europe. They are getting good contributions out of Bonner, Blair, Danny Green.

I think Cap'n Jack is there for morale boosting and good luck. They are removing a guy who probably was a downer. Not that it's a bad thing, but isn't it ironic that Richard Jefferson and Luke Walton got traded on the same day?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I hadn't really thought about it, but the Lakers got Eyenga with Sessions for that pick. Christian Eyenga is a big time athlete, who was coached his rookie year by Mike Brown.

A lineup of Sessions, Bryant, Eyenga, Gasol, Bynum has a whole lot of athleticism seems very complete.

[Rafael122]

Lakers got younger, got rid of Walton and Fisher. Great moves.

[Ruzious]

But even with Fisher looking as old as dirt - and just as quick - he had a connection with Kobe. Sess could be a disaster for their chemistry, imo. And him making 42% of his 3's this season vs 18% for the rest of his career - I see fool's gold in dem der hills. I do like LAL getting Hill - They needed a big athletic body for depth, imo. And Htn gets back their pick.

[closg00]

Lakers got younger, got rid of Walton and Fisher. Great moves.

Yes, and the Lakers have time to build some chemistry just in-time for the play-offs. The Lakers board must be thrilled with the moves.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

But even with Fisher looking as old as dirt - and just as quick - he had a connection with Kobe. Sess could be a disaster for their chemistry, imo. And him making 42% of his 3's this season vs 18% for the rest of his career - I see fool's gold in dem der hills. I do like LAL getting Hill - They needed a big athletic body for depth, imo. And Htn gets back their pick.

I love what the Lakers did today.

Eyenga and Hill are young and athletic. They can defend and provide some life off the bench. Who needed Kapono or Walton? I think people underestimate Sessions. He will be a huge, good addition for LAL. Kobe has to play less minutes than he's been playing. Their perimeter defense was getting killed.

Fisher will probably be waived, by agreement, with the Rockets. If he is not his time was done with LAL, any way, IMO. Houston did it for the draft pick. Darryl Morey knows what he is doing. Fisher, in theory, could play for them while Lowry is out sick, but I don't see it. The Rockets got rid of Flynn and Thabeet, and they loaded up on picks. Kevin McHale is going to succeed there in a big way IMO, because he knows which guys can play and he knows how to get rid of the guys who cannot.

I really am a fan of Mitch Kupchak and Darrly Morey.

Too bad the Wizards don't have a good GM like those guys.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I have a new found respect for Otis Smith, SVG, and the Rockets. They guilted their C into staying.

"Man, listen, you know my heart, my soul and everything I have is in Orlando," Howard told RealGM. "I just can't leave it behind."

Dealing with such a big decision was new territory for Howard.

To help with the process he sought advice from people he believed had his best interest in mind. All the while, his heart remained in Orlando. While he wanted to keep his options open, Howard's intentions were never to alienate his teammates, coaches or general manager.

The circumstances, however, spiraled out of control and turned into something he never wanted to happen. Howard was very remorseful for the situation that he created, but eager to turn it around and show everyone who has been hurt by his actions how much he appreciates them and how sorry he is for Wednesday’s events.

"I have gotten some bad advice," Howard said. "I apologize for this circus I have caused to the fans of our city. They didn't deserve none of this. I'm sorry from the bottom of my heart. I will do whatever I can to make this right and do what I was put in Orlando to do."

The situation has also been stressful for Howard and his family, but he isn't thinking of making any excuses or point any fingers. Howard only wants to get back to being the man Orlando grew to love and cheer for.

"This has been a very hard time," Howard said. "For me, my family and all of us. The fans deserve a better hero and I will make that happen. I love and appreciate my fans and this city."

Howard said that he plans on signing the ETO waiver first thing on Thursday morning. He also plans on making some internal changes to ensure this situation isn't repeated in the future.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... z1pDSSlAmX

Props to SVG for winning enough games to get Howard to stay. As for Stan, Dwight will probably can him in the offseason, but the man is definitely a good coach.

[LyricalRico]

I'm not sure what Pop sees in Stephen Jackson, but at least his trade will keep SA from throwing more money... mo money... mo money at Richard Jefferson.

There have been a lot of teams over the years who have probably wondered - what did we see in Stephen Jackson?

Wasn't Jackson on one of the first Spurs title teams? Of course he was a different player then, mostly "3 & D" rather than a wanna-be #1 option. But if Pop can get him to play within their system, he can still be productive IMO.

Big IF, though...

[Ruzious]

I'm not sure what Pop sees in Stephen Jackson, but at least his trade will keep SA from throwing more money... mo money... mo money at Richard Jefferson.

There have been a lot of teams over the years who have probably wondered - what did we see in Stephen Jackson?

Wasn't Jackson on one of the first Spurs title teams? Of course he was a different player then, mostly "3 & D" rather than a wanna-be #1 option. But if Pop can get him to play within their system, he can still be productive IMO.

Big IF, though...

Yeah, it was while back though - right around when sneakers were invented - about 20 contracts ago that Jackson has whined about right after signing.

[willbcocks]

If you want an example of a bad trade, see the nets. Wow, what a disastrous day for that organization.

[Ruzious]

If you want an example of a bad trade, see the nets. Wow, what a disastrous day for that organization.

Yeah, I'm thinking that if Nene doesn't work out here, we can always trade him to the Nets for a lottery pick.

[Nivek]

I'm not sure what Pop sees in Stephen Jackson, but at least his trade will keep SA from throwing more money... mo money... mo money at Richard Jefferson.

There have been a lot of teams over the years who have probably wondered - what did we see in Stephen Jackson?

I think this is what Pop sees:

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SALARIES        2012    2013    2014
Jefferson       9.3     10.2    11.1
Jackson         9.3     10.1    0



[Ruzious]

Lol, you're exactly right, Kev. I should have looked at that.

[Ruzious]

An interesting snipet from Rick Beucher (sp?) at ESPN:

Following Milwaukee's acquisition of Monta Ellis, the Nets offered a trade of Brook Lopez, according to Ric Bucher while on KNBR Radio.

The Bucks turned down that trade and decided to keep Ellis.

Ellis is known to be a player Dwight Howard wants to play with.

This is not a good decade to be a Nets fan.

[gesa2]

An interesting snipet from Rick Beucher (sp?) at ESPN:

Following Milwaukee's acquisition of Monta Ellis, the Nets offered a trade of Brook Lopez, according to Ric Bucher while on KNBR Radio.

The Bucks turned down that trade and decided to keep Ellis.

Ellis is known to be a player Dwight Howard wants to play with.

This is not a good decade to be a Nets fan.

Which one was?

[Severn Hoos]

The one with Julius Erving in it.

[dangermouse]

Deron definitely heading home to Dallas now.

I wouldnt be too shocked if Dwight stays in Orlando now either. He cant team up with Deron in NJ. Unless Dallas somehow clears enough cap room to sign him. NY won't have enough cap, neither will LA. Who else he want to play with? Monta Ellis is in Milwaukee I doubt he heads there haha.

Although I guess he could still go to NJ if Chris Paul goes there, but why would he leave the Clippers to go to NJ as they are currently constructed without a definite answer from Dwight? I can understand leaving NOH but Clippers are borderline contenders right now and will only get better.

[queridiculo]

The Blazers cleared a lot of salary, could they conceivably make a push for Derron Williams? Imagine how screwed the Nets would be losing both Williams and a lottery pick to the Blazers. Ouch!

[tontoz]

Interesting stuff regarding the Suns medical staff.

Originally Posted by Arizona Republic
The Suns purchased a $50,000 cryochamber on the advice of their renowned training staff.

"We use it for muscle recovery to pump the blood through the body," Suns head athletic trainer Aaron Nelson said. "We're trying to re-energize or reboot the body. It gives you a feeling of being cold and jump-starts your metabolism to feel refreshed the rest of the day."

The treatment consists of stepping into a nitrogen gas cylindrical chamber, followed by blasts of nitrogen gas starting out at minus-166 degrees and quickly cooling to between minus-256 and minus-274.

"I get in after a game," Grant Hill said. "It's helped me a lot on back-to-backs. I also get in there sometimes before games. It's definitely cutting edge and one of the new methods of recovery that I think, in five to 10 years, we'll see that lots of pro and college teams have it. I don't know exactly what it's doing to your body but I know when you get out, you just feel really good. I've tried it after games, mornings of back-to-backs before the second games and before games, and I get great results."

Exposure to extreme cold has similar effects to that of an ice bath.

"We're the carpenters," Nelson said. "It (the Cryosauna) is just another tool in our toolbox. There may be objective or subjective benefits. The psychological piece of that is better than anything. It's more important when I get feedback from players saying, 'I feel better when I do this.'

"I think a lot of teams will have something like this, and we just didn't want to fall behind."