Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 8

Post #1 » by **j127** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:39 am

This is Part 8 to our NBA Draft Thread after the other thread reached the 100-page mark.

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Edit: About the poll, I haven't been following the draft much, so I asked someone for his top 10 and I used it. I couldn't tell you who is good or not among that list.

sunny · Post #2 » by **sunny** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:41 am

the thing about drummond is that you can see his talent. He just has never been taught how to play basketball. He never had a real coach in highschool and didn't have one this year in college.

The potential is definitely there, but it needs to be harnessed and its something that could be a difficult challenge.

On the other hand, Jeremy Lamb is going to be a star.

dbenalal · Post #3 » by **dbenalal** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:41 am

I don't want to draft anthony davis because he's unmarketable with his unibrow

fredericklove · Post #4 » by **fredericklove** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:42 am

Hey Yuna Kim Mod, can you put the prospects poll too?

djsunyc · Post #5 » by **djsunyc** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:42 am

drummond + lamb looked mighty questionable out there.

JUST SAY NO TO JONES III. fugazy.

royce white has me intrigued for later in the draft.

Marlo Stanfield · Post #6 » by **Marlo Stanfield** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:44 am

Pu**y Bust III proved it yet again and Drummond is playing with our hearts yet again. Today was a microcosm of 8 draft threads on any discussion involving those two.

sunny · Post #7 » by **sunny** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:44 am

for what its worth, drummond is now in the 3-5 range. He won't be going number 2.

Dr Positivity · Post #8 » by **Dr Positivity** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:44 am

1. Anthony Davis

2. Meyers Leonard
3. Perry Jones III
4. Jared Sullinger
5. Jeremy Lamb
6. Arnett Moultrie

7. Damian Lillard
8. Thomas Robinson
9. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
10. Harrison Barnes

Drummond is like a guy that drives up in a fan and offers you free candy, just don't take it...

fredericklove · Post #9 » by **fredericklove** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:45 am

dbenalal wrote:I don't want to draft anthony davis because he's unmarketable with his unibrow

This is where you're wrong. The unibrow is absolutely marketable. Think of all the unibrow commercials he can make - unibrow removal gel, unibrow fashion, and not just commercials, he can start a "get a unibrow" charity fund to raise money for the third world.

Marlo Stanfield · Post #10 » by **Marlo Stanfield** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:46 am

sunny wrote:for what its worth, drummond is now in the 3-5 range. He won't be going number 2.

You seem to have faith in the competence of NBA scouting. I'm not so sure...

Weems · Post #11 » by **Weems** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:47 am

dbenalal wrote:I don't want to draft anthony davis because he's unmarketable with his unibrow

He's getting rid of it after he gets drafted.

Los Manos · Post #12 » by **Los Manos** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:47 am

sunny wrote:the thing about drummond is that you can see his talent. He just has never been taught how to play basketball. He never had a real coach in highschool and didn't have one this year in college.

The potential is definitely there, but it needs to be harnessed and its something that could be a difficult challenge.

On the other hand, Jeremy Lamb is going to be a star.

Yeah i'm not buying into this sudden jumping off their bandwagon. I'm sceptical with Drummond but a couple of years of NBA coaching and he can be a good pro with a chance to be really good but he needs time to develop. He has been used poorly all year by UConn with his currently limited skill-set. They could have got more production out of him if they didn't leave him floating down on the block all year.

Lamb will be good too and productive from the get go. He looks like he can't wait to get to the NBA and out of UConn and I don't blame him after playing alongside Napier and Boatwright. He may never be a top 5 SG in his career but I have little doubt that he will be one of the better starters in the league in his prime.

Post #13 » by **Undefeated** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:48 am

If Jeremy Lamb falls out of the top 8, he's going to be a steal. There's too much talent to pass up on. I think he'll show his true value in individual draft workouts and one-on-one games which he'll destroy. The guy can iso with the best of them. Playing with Shabazz Napier who tried to put on a Kemba Walker impression the entire season didn't help. Part of the blame is on Lamb for not being demanding enough, but what can he do when Napier and Boatright just dribble the hell out of the shot clock, swing the ball around the perimeter aimlessly, and play with their head down? Anyone that plays basketball would know it's hard to play with teammates like that.

Waylon Mercy · Post #14 » by **Waylon Mercy** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:51 am

Via Chad Fords Twitter

"NJ source on why they traded their pick to POR Top 3 protected: Only 3 players they loved: Anthony Davis, MKG and Thomas Robinson."

sunny · Post #15 » by **sunny** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:52 am

Undefeated wrote:If Jeremy Lamb falls out of the top 8, he's going to be a steal. There's too much talent to pass up on. I think he'll show his true value in individual draft workouts and one-on-one games which he'll destroy. The guy can iso with the best of them. Playing with Shabazz Napier who tried to put on a Kemba Walker impression the entire season didn't help. Part of the blame is on Lamb for not being demanding enough, but what can he do when Napier and Boatright just dribble the hell out of the shot clock, swing the ball around the perimeter aimlessly, and play with their head down? Anyone that plays basketball would know it's hard to play with teammates like that.

forsure. It seems to me his talent is quite obvious, but his biggest problem/flaw is his lack of drive or desire to demand the ball. Something that easily can be dealt with in the nba but still something to consider and have doubts on.

Saciid11 · Post #16 » by **Saciid11** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:52 am

sunny wrote:the thing about drummond is that you can see his talent. He just has never been taught how to play basketball. He never had a real coach in highschool and didn't have one this year in college.

The potential is definitely there, but it needs to be harnessed and its something that could be a difficult challenge.

On the other hand, Jeremy Lamb is going to be a star.

Drummond ceiling JaVale Mcgee/Andre Jordan... he got zero skills and zero bbiq

Dr Positivity · Post #17 » by **Dr Positivity** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:56 am

sunny wrote:the thing about drummond is that you can see his talent. He just has never been taught how to play basketball. He never had a real coach in highschool and didn't have one this year in college.

The thing is how much can you learn as far in as post freshman year of college. Not to mention he has bad fundamentals, habits and instincts that might have to completely overturned. I mean the combination of his jumpshot form and his FTs is all you have to know about how much he's learned the wrong way so far. There's a reason players at every position show the skills they'll have at the NBA at least somewhat in college. They might get better at the things they're showing in college but at least they're showing it, showing they look like dynamic talents at those skills

I can't buy that he has the potential to turn from Deandre/Dalembert skill level to Amare just from learning. Even a player with awesome work habits can't do that. Derozan still shows most of the weaknesses he did in college. And Drummond by all accounts is pretty soft work ethic wise as well

I'm all for high risk high reward but I'm worried Drummond is high risk low reward. Like the reward is him being a Dalembert Deandre type who pretty much blocks shots and dunks. And that's with the Thabeet like bust risk. I wouldn't take Drummond in the top 10 right now.

Saciid11 · Post #18 » by **Saciid11** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:56 am

dbenalal wrote:I don't want to draft anthony davis because he's unmarketable with his unibrow

Why do you care about how another man looks???

Anthony Davis is the best player in the draft and would easily be our best player, so you draft him without thinking twice ...

fredericklove · Post #19 » by **fredericklove** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:00 am

Undefeated wrote:If Jeremy Lamb falls out of the top 8, he's going to be a steal. There's too much talent to pass up on. I think he'll show his true value in individual draft workouts and one-on-one games which he'll destroy. The guy can iso with the best of them. Playing with Shabazz Napier who tried to put on a Kemba Walker impression the entire season didn't help. Part of the blame is on Lamb for not being demanding enough, but what can he do when Napier and Boatright just dribble the hell out of the shot clock, swing the ball around the perimeter aimlessly, and play with their head down? Anyone that plays basketball would know it's hard to play with teammates like that.

There's instances where he busts his ass of running through screens or curling off screens but gets looked off or one of those two idiots looks the other way. As much as I see him not attacking the basket much at all (that is a glaring red-flag in the NBA), I still see him incredibly good enough to run through multiple screens a la Rich-Ham style to get points off. When he iso, I hope to see him not shakes off and just settle for a jumpshot, he should utilize more hesitation moves to drive by and goes for tear-drops or floater. He's just so lengthy that I think his floater is unguardable. I also don't see him as a top 5 SG in the NBA but definitely got some multiple all-star potential like Rich-Ham. The more I watch him the more I see Rich-Ham's upside.

Drummond on the other hand, I don't give a rat ass about him at all. Let other idiots take him.

fredericklove · Post #20 » by **fredericklove** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:01 am

Saciid11 wrote:
dbenalal wrote:I don't want to draft anthony davis because he's unmarketable with his unibrow

Why do you care about how another man looks???

Anthony Davis is the best player in the draft and would easily be our best player, so you draft him without thinking twice ...

Chill out bro, he's just being sarcastic.

Who do you want the Raptors to select in the 2012 NBA draft?