Barea: What's your opinion on him?

kmgarnett21 · Post #1 » by **kmgarnett21** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:29 pm

I was very ecstatic when we signed him in the offseason. Living near Dallas, I got to watch a lot of him, and he was really the only player on the Mavs who I liked. So, with Barea joining Rubio, I was very excited and expecting big things out of Dos Lobos. But Barea has been a major disappointment, in my eyes anyways.

Too many turnovers. Too many forced shots. Too much complaining to the refs. Not enough hustling. When he played for Dallas, he hustled nonstop. That's why so many Mavs fans loved him.

I'm not making this thread in reaction to the Barea/Love altercation. Those things happen in the heat of the moment. I'm making this thread to gauge the board's opinion on Barea. If any of you are on facebook and keep up with comments on the Timberwolves official facebook, it's pretty laughable the debates going on about Barea.

To me, he's not a PG. Never has been, never will be. He's an undersized 2-guard or combo guard. If you need him to create shots for others or be a distributor, you're in trouble. His role needs to be, come off the bench with a pass-first PG and pick and choose the times in which to shoot and drive.

Post #2 » by **The J Rocka** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:35 pm

I was meh about the signing. If I had to chose between Ridnour & Barea, I'd probably stick with Ridnour. I don't think the Rubio/Ridnour/Barea combo will stick around. I'd probably lean towards trading Barea if I could. Would rather use that $4 mil to go towards another player.

NewWolvesOrder · Post #3 » by **NewWolvesOrder** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:44 pm

He's annoying me, but he will probably stick around for next season since we don't how Rubio will come back unless Lee will show something in the summer league and training camp.

Grits n Gravy · Post #4 » by **Grits n Gravy** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:46 pm

i pretty much hate him to be honest(obviously as a basketball player)...i am so sick of watching him dribble and pound the ball for entire possessions and take awful shots. i really hope we can get rid of him in the off season.

prefuse73 · Post #5 » by **prefuse73** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:48 pm

Barea, ideally, is a guy you can bring in who can get his shot off and ignite an offense if it stalls. However, I don't see him here as a long term fit with guys like Ruibo and Luke around him. Luke and Barea are an okay duo from a bench standpoint, but I much prefer the defense of Malcolm lee in that role.

We should set it up like a hockey team and get that All-Star SG who compliments Rubio (Shooter, Defender, good handles, create his own shot) so we can just sub in our 2nd line (Lee and Ridnour) when necessary.

SG ??? / Lee
PG Rubio / Ridnour

Vindicater · Post #6 » by **Vindicater** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:51 pm

I didn't think anyone could be worse at running the point than Ridnour was last season.

I was wrong.

Having both Barea and Ridnour on the same team is gross.

zerogravity15 · Post #7 » by **zerogravity15** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:03 pm

Barea is a combo guard, that is more SG than PG. I think he can be good coming off the bench, but he's not an ideal starting point guard. He looks for his own offense too much.

Post #8 » by **Calinks** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:16 pm

I think Love misses Sebastian Telfair. :lol:

NewWolvesOrder · Post #9 » by **NewWolvesOrder** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:19 pm

prefuse73 wrote:Barea, ideally, is a guy you can bring in who can get his shot off and ignite an offense if it stalls. However, I don't see him here as a long term fit with guys like Ruibo and Luke around him. Luke and Barea are an okay duo from a bench standpoint, but I much prefer the defense of Malcolm lee in that role.

We should set it up like a hockey team and get that All-Star SG who compliments Rubio (Shooter, Defender, good handles, create his own shot) so we can just sub in our 2nd line (Lee and Ridnour) when necessary.

SG ??? / Lee
PG Rubio / Ridnour

So who's that All-Star SG that we can get? I'm very curious.

AQuintus · Post #10 » by **AQuintus** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:36 pm

He's basically all of the negatives of Beasley (turnover prone, injury prone, ball-stopper, bad defense, etc) without any of the positives (good size for position, great chemistry with the core, potential).

Wes Johnson and Barea should have been the guys aggressively shopped at the trade deadline. As it is, we should be really trying to move them both this off season for a SG and then move forward with prefuse's Rubio + SG/ Ridnour + Lee lineup.

criteriado · Post #11 » by **criteriado** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:46 pm

I'm not making this thread in reaction to the Barea/Love altercation. Those things happen in the heat of the moment. I'm making this thread to gauge the board's opinion on Barea. If any of you are on facebook and keep up with comments on the Timberwolves official facebook, it's pretty laughable the debates going on about Barea.

Have you watch the jj barea facebook page? The Barea homers say that Rubio and Love are gay, that Rubio should be benched, because he can't shoot(before the injury), that Barea should be starting and Rubio is all hype. :lol:

They also say that Adelman is one of the worst coaches in the NBA and the Wolves need to fire him. :lol:

I don't know how you can be a fan of a chucker.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #12 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:10 am

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Post #13 » by **Calinks** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:23 am

Devilzsidewalk wrote:progressive timeline:

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Post #14 » by **C.lupus** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:25 am

Devilzsidewalk wrote:progressive timeline:

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Pretty much. I like him in the beginning as he seemed to really take Rubio under his wing and mentor him. He was always pulling Ricky aside and explaining things to him. I loved the vet mind game he played in that freethrow situation a while back, too.

Lately, though, it seems like all of his negative traits have come to the surface at the same time. He needs to play like a vet and not a rookie chucker like he has been playing.

Sammyzuko · Post #15 » by **Sammyzuko** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:53 am

Grits n Gravy wrote:i pretty much hate him to be honest(obviously as a basketball player)...i am so sick of watching him dribble and pound the ball for entire possessions and take awful shots. i really hope we can get rid of him in the off season.

Agreed. He plays out of control and consistently throws up prayers. I still have people tell me how awesome he is, probably cause they're just catching a few highlights of him on ESPN. I've been questioning his personality a bit too. He doesn't seem to blend well with this team and the latest Klove incident seems to highlight that. This is one of the most boring wired up clips I've ever seen....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX6T5wpaXU0

moss_is_1 · Post #16 » by **moss_is_1** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:11 am

He's very hot and cold. He can either dominate a game or shoot you out of it. Basically he'd be fine as just a bench player who you don't have to rely on, problem is that we do have to rely on him because we only have 2 pgs.

mandurugo · Post #17 » by **mandurugo** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:18 am

was it only 2 or 3 games ago someone was complimenting him for pulling Williams aside during a game and giving him some pointers? He is what he is, an undersized guard better at attacking then distributing but with championship experience and a native spanish speaker (though a different dialect from Rubio). He is very similar to Luke, neither a true point guard but both too small to be SG's. In the long run, there's no need for both of them but I'm not sure which of the two I prefer, it tends to fluctuate by how well they are shooting. His health has been a concern this year, but that's been the only surprising negative.

eyeteeth · Post #18 » by **eyeteeth** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:23 am

Things were a lot better with Barea when Rubio was healthy and Barea was able to play his natural role of "off the bench instant offense." He was great in the playoffs last year for Dallas, and I hope he will be great for us in the playoffs next year. His playoff experience is something that would be really important to have in any replacement if we do try to move him.

When he is an important part of the normal functioning of the offense, though, he frequently makes me want to put him on a giant catapult and launch him to Iowa.

karch34 · Post #19 » by **karch34** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:30 am

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My comments in bold.

I hated the signing, got sucked in by a few games when the chucker was hitting some shots and got optimistic, but since game vs Knicks hate everything about his game.

kmgarnett21 · Post #20 » by **kmgarnett21** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:35 am

criteriado wrote:
I'm not making this thread in reaction to the Barea/Love altercation. Those things happen in the heat of the moment. I'm making this thread to gauge the board's opinion on Barea. If any of you are on facebook and keep up with comments on the Timberwolves official facebook, it's pretty laughable the debates going on about Barea.

Have you watch the jj barea facebook page? The Barea homers say that Rubio and Love are gay, that Rubio should be benched, because he can't shoot(before the injury), that Barea should be starting and Rubio is all hype. They also say that Adelman is one of the worst coaches in the NBA and the Wolves need to fire him.

I don't know how you can be a fan of a chucker.

No. But the crap going on on the Timberwolves page is ridiculous.