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Re: The Bismack Biyombo Thread 

Post#761 » by Elden Payton » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:28 pm

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freakon0mics wrote:I like the pairing of him and Greg Monroe. I think both complement each other. Both can handle the majority of bigs in the league defensively. One is more polish on the offensive end while the other is more polish on defense. Not to mention their around the same age. For the next 10 years you already got your front court locked up. So glad we traded ahead of Detroit to draft him. Detroit was eying this front court as well.

As a GM a Team player in the trade forum I usually scope out draft prospects way early. I remember when he 1st showed up on DX and he caught my interest.

a bit down the road as a Piston fan...

I was hoping we could draft him to pair him with Monroe but alas you guys nabbed him 1 spot before us.

Now I am hoping to get Davis next to Monroe so my guess is we get lucky in lotto and get the #2 pick right after the Cats pick Davis. :o

anyway...

congrats on nabbing him and I will be watching to see how he improves further.


Cheers r0cd0gg, The reason we chose him at 7 was because we knew you guys would take him at 8 and at least if we took him then either Knight or Kemba woulod still be available.
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Re: The Bismack Biyombo Thread 

Post#762 » by SWedd523 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:55 am

r0cd0gg wrote:As a GM a Team player in the trade forum I usually scope out draft prospects way early. I remember when he 1st showed up on DX and he caught my interest.

a bit down the road as a Piston fan...

I was hoping we could draft him to pair him with Monroe but alas you guys nabbed him 1 spot before us.

Now I am hoping to get Davis next to Monroe so my guess is we get lucky in lotto and get the #2 pick right after the Cats pick Davis. :o

anyway...

congrats on nabbing him and I will be watching to see how he improves further.

The general belief is that going into the draft we wanted Bismack and one of either Kemba and Knight. Since both of the PGs were available for our first pick, we went with Bismack and took whoever was left.

As a Pistons fan, I'm sure you are more in tune to their rumors and whatnot during draft time. Was the thought that Bismack would be the pick had he fell to #8? Or was Knight above him on the Pistons' Board?
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Re: The Bismack Biyombo Thread 

Post#763 » by roc » Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:20 pm

I know we were interested in both players but TBH I have no clue which Joe would have picked if let's say you guys took Kemba at 7.

Like the Cats we needed another big man as well as a PG so :dontknow:

My gut says Joe would have nabbed Bismack and had Big Ben tutor him to be the perfect fit next Greg.
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Post#764 » by captaincrunk » Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:36 pm

r0cd0gg wrote:I know we were interested in both players but TBH I have no clue which Joe would have picked if let's say you guys took Kemba at 7.

Like the Cats we needed another big man as well as a PG so :dontknow:

My gut says Joe would have nabbed Bismack and had Big Ben tutor him to be the perfect fit next Greg.

If we were picking between Knight at Kemba at 7 I'd have to think we would have chosen Knight based on the data available.
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Re: The Bismack Biyombo Thread 

Post#765 » by roc » Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:48 pm

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r0cd0gg wrote:I know we were interested in both players but TBH I have no clue which Joe would have picked if let's say you guys took Kemba at 7.

Like the Cats we needed another big man as well as a PG so :dontknow:

My gut says Joe would have nabbed Bismack and had Big Ben tutor him to be the perfect fit next Greg.

If we were picking between Knight at Kemba at 7 I'd have to think we would have chosen Knight based on the data available.


I know, I was just answering this question...

SWEDD523 wrote:As a Pistons fan, I'm sure you are more in tune to their rumors and whatnot during draft time. Was the thought that Bismack would be the pick had he fell to #8? Or was Knight above him on the Pistons' Board?


SO created a scenario where Pistons got to choose between Knight and Biyombo. ;)
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Re: The Bismack Biyombo Thread 

Post#766 » by SWedd523 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:38 pm

You could throw Kemba in there as well but I imagine Knight was higher on the Pistons board as well since they took him even though Kemba was available.

I wonder how different things would be right now if we draft had been

7. Knight
8. Bismack


The FO probably would have gone Marcus Morris or Kawhi Leonard with the 9, but I have to say I think the FO made the right choice even with Kemba not being that good
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Re: The Bismack Biyombo Thread 

Post#767 » by BigSlam » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:45 pm

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Post#768 » by SWedd523 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:11 pm

It didn't seem like the FO was a very big fan of his for whatever reason, which is puzzling due to the Colorado connections
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Post#769 » by princeofpalace » Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:49 pm

SWEDD523 wrote:The general belief is that going into the draft we wanted Bismack and one of either Kemba and Knight. Since both of the PGs were available for our first pick, we went with Bismack and took whoever was left.

As a Pistons fan, I'm sure you are more in tune to their rumors and whatnot during draft time. Was the thought that Bismack would be the pick had he fell to #8? Or was Knight above him on the Pistons' Board?


Nobody was expecting Knight to be on the board by Detroits pick.

Rumors were that Pistons were looking at Tristan Thompson the hardest, followed by Biyombo and Markief Morris. With both TT and Biyombo off the board, Knight was the obvious pick. We were never linked to Knight prior to the draft as he was expected to be off the board, so its hard to say who the pick wouldve been.

But I think both of our teams are pleased with their selections. We needed a PG, and there isnt one in 2012 draft whereas there are plently of bigman in this upcoming draft.
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Post#770 » by HornetJail » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:27 am

I remember reading somewhere that we traded for the 7th pick because Detroit wanted Biyombo at #8. I was actually surprised when he dropped to #7. I expected him to go at #5.
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Post#771 » by Kabookalu » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:20 am

CHA_77_Bobcats wrote:I remember reading somewhere that we traded for the 7th pick because Detroit wanted Biyombo at #8. I was actually surprised when he dropped to #7. I expected him to go at #5.


As a Raptors fan I was hoping for the same thing :bang head: I was literally in shock for 12 minutes and was hoping to hear from Stern that there was a draft trade involving Biyombo to Toronto. Never happened.
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Post#772 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:24 pm

I'm currently on the Kenneth Faried bandwagon. Guy is a beast.
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Post#773 » by Kembastockton » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:45 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:I'm currently on the Kenneth Faried bandwagon. Guy is a beast.


He is just like Joakim Noah. A little bit better than advertised, but still not a franchise changing player.
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Post#774 » by princeofpalace » Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:44 pm

CHA_77_Bobcats wrote:I remember reading somewhere that we traded for the 7th pick because Detroit wanted Biyombo at #8. I was actually surprised when he dropped to #7. I expected him to go at #5.


Detroit wanted to trade up to the Raps pick to draft Tristan Thompson. But when TT went 4th and JV was still on the board at #5- there was no deal on the Raps end. TT was the pick that threw off most draft boards.
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Re: The Bismack Biyombo Thread 

Post#775 » by Olajuwon34 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:23 pm

He is just like Joakim Noah. A little bit better than advertised, but still not a franchise changing player.

The phrase that someone is "not a franchise changing player" gets bandied around way too much. In the nba today there probably aren't more than four or five true "game changers", the odds of actually picking one are extremely low.
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Post#776 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:41 am

Olajuwon34 wrote:
He is just like Joakim Noah. A little bit better than advertised, but still not a franchise changing player.

The phrase that someone is "not a franchise changing player" gets bandied around way too much. In the nba today there probably aren't more than four or five true "game changers", the odds of actually picking one are extremely low.


Exactly. There isn't a franchise player on our roster currently. Durant, James, Wade, Howard, Paul are franchise label guys.
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Post#777 » by Snidely FC » Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:26 am

David Thorpe does a 2011 redraft. He leaves Bismack at the 7 to CHA. His comments:

"The Cats still would get their future Dikembe Mutombo, which was the right call in June and now. Biyombo will be so much better as he matures and learns the NBA game from a macro and micro level. Think of it like this: Imagine Biyombo at UConn. Think he'd be rated higher than Andre Drummond? :D

Biyombo is not a surefire starter -- not without fine-tuning and better coaching -- but he should always be a rotation guy even if he never gets better (which is highly unlikely)."

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/ ... ch-redraft
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Re: The Bismack Biyombo Thread 

Post#778 » by captaincrunk » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:02 am

Snidely FC wrote:David Thorpe does a 2011 redraft. He leaves Bismack at the 7 to CHA. His comments:

"The Cats still would get their future Dikembe Mutombo, which was the right call in June and now. Biyombo will be so much better as he matures and learns the NBA game from a macro and micro level. Think of it like this: Imagine Biyombo at UConn. Think he'd be rated higher than Andre Drummond? :D

Biyombo is not a surefire starter -- not without fine-tuning and better coaching -- but he should always be a rotation guy even if he never gets better (which is highly unlikely)."

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/ ... ch-redraft

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Re: The Bismack Biyombo Thread 

Post#779 » by KembaWalker » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:54 pm

I wonder if Biz is gonna play for the Democratic Republic of Congo in any international events like FIBA Africa Championship or something. I'm sure theyre a long way from qualifying for the Olympics but it could give me another team to follow. Though I'm really hoping he just focuses on his development for a while
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Re: The Bismack Biyombo Thread 

Post#780 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:11 pm

Biyombo needs to spend the entire offseason catching passes in the post without fumbling around while also taking 600-750 10-15 foot jumpers a day. I still think he is 2 years away from being where he needs to be.
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