Discussing Other Teams' Moves

Post #1161 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:23 pm

Severn Hoos wrote:The one with Julius Erving in it.

Hehe. And the Kidd/Kittles/K-Mart era was pretty good - in the early 2000's.

Post #1162 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:25 pm

hermitkid wrote:The Blazers cleared a lot of salary, could they conceivably make a push for Derron Williams? Imagine how screwed the Nets would be losing both Williams and a lottery pick to the Blazers. Ouch!

Ouch is right. I think I'd fold up my NJ tent and put up a For Sale sign if that happened.

Post #1163 » by **montestewart** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:12 pm

Ruzious wrote:
hermitkid wrote:The Blazers cleared a lot of salary, could they conceivably make a push for Derron Williams? Imagine how screwed the Nets would be losing both Williams and a lottery pick to the Blazers. Ouch!

Ouch is right. I think I'd fold up my NJ tent and put up a For Sale sign if that happened.

More than the Knicks, NJ could become the poster child for how not to rebuild.

They cleared huge cap room but whiffed on signing any top free agents.

Possibly in desperation, they traded 3rd pick Favors (who was making fine progress and could in no way be termed a bust), a 2011 1st (#3, Kanter) and a future 1st (currently projects to be an unprotected 2012 #10) for top player Williams, with no guarantee they could resign him, hoping to attract another top player (Howard).

After stringing NJ along, Howard now looks like he may never sign there, and Williams now has little incentive to resign there.

In another apparent panic move, they trade a future 1st (currently projects to be an unprotected 2012 #4) for Wallace, a good player and top defender who has entered his decline and is only signed for one more year anyway.

In a few years, NJ may have nothing at all to show for Favors, Kanter, and two lottery picks in the stacked 2012 draft. Well, they will have a lot of cap room. That sure helped them in the past.

closg00 · Post #1164 » by **closg00** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:05 pm

Gilbert gets a 1-year deal, I wonder if it's guaranteed?

fishercob · Post #1165 » by **fishercob** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:17 pm

closg00 wrote:Gilbert gets a 1-year deal, I wonder if it's guaranteed?

It doesn't matter. His money from Orlando is.

I hope he does well and I hope he finds happiness.

And hope they video the bourre games between Gilbert, Mayo and Tony Allen.

closg00 · Post #1166 » by **closg00** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:51 pm

Right!! It appear as-though Gilbert and Michael Redd have finally recovered from their injuries. I still want to see for myself what Gilbert's got left in the tank.

verbal8 · Post #1167 » by **verbal8** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:27 am

montestewart wrote:More than the Knicks, NJ could become the poster child for how not to rebuild.

They cleared huge cap room but whiffed on signing any top free agents.

Possibly in desperation, they traded 3rd pick Favors (who was making fine progress and could in no way be termed a bust), a 2011 1st (#3, Kanter) and a future 1st (currently projects to be an unprotected 2012 #10) for top player Williams, with no guarantee they could resign him, hoping to attract another top player (Howard).

The Nets could be left with just Morrow, Petro and Brooks under contract. I assume they can extend Brook Lopez, but still that is a bad position to be in with this free agent crop.

closg00 · Post #1168 » by **closg00** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:40 am

The Blazers have claimed J.J. Hickson from waivers, according to a source.

Hickson was already in New Orleans with the Warriors, who had an agreement with Golden State dependent on clearing waivers.

Hickson was waived this week by the Kings.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... z1pqNbe4GC

How does Hickson get nabbed by the Blazers ahead of GSW?

verbal8 · Post #1169 » by **verbal8** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:54 am

closg00 wrote:
The Blazers have claimed J.J. Hickson from waivers, according to a source.

Hickson was already in New Orleans with the Warriors, who had an agreement with Golden State dependent on clearing waivers.

Hickson was waived this week by the Kings.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... z1pqNbe4GC

How does Hickson get nabbed by the Blazers ahead of GSW?

When a team waiver a player, every team has a shot to pick-up the player on their current contract. It looks like the Blazers did not have cap space, but they probably used an exception to absorb his contract. Given their need for post players, I think it was a good move by the Blazers.

Golden state's deal was dependent on Hickson clearing waivers and would have been for the vet minimum(he would have gotten his salary paid by Sacramento).

closg00 · Post #1170 » by **closg00** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:25 pm

Does anyone understand Dallas's surprise move? (Signing Azubuike) You have to assume it's insurance in-case Terry can't be brought-back for a reasonable salary, they do have a bunch of expirings.

As an aside, the move is very slick, they must have been monitoring Azubuike for a while. Azubuike, Gilbert, Hill, Redd, it takes years to return from these injuries obviously.

closg00 · Post #1171 » by **closg00** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:16 pm

San Antonio signed guard Patrick Mills.
Houston signed guard Earl Boykins to a 10-day contract.
Toronto signed guards Alan Anderson and Ben Uzoh to a 10-day contract.
Golden State signed center Keith Benson to a 10-day contract.
Los Angeles Clippers signed forward Bobby Simmons for the remainder of the season.
San Antonio signed guard Justin Dentmon to a 10-day contract.
Boston signed center Ryan Hollins and waived forward Chris Wilcox.
Golden State signed center Mickell Gladness to a 10-day contract.
Sacramento signed guard Terrence Williams to a 10-day contract.
Houston signed forward Courtney Fortson to a 10-day contract.
San Antonio signed forward Eric Dawson to a second 10-day contract.
New Jersey signed guard Jerry Smith to a 10-day contract.
Cleveland signed guard Donald Sloan to a 10-day contract.
Houston waived guard Terrence Williams.

Thanks ts35^

closg00 · Post #1172 » by **closg00** » Sun Apr 8, 2012 3:29 pm

Lester Hudson appears to be more NBA-ready this time around, his production is increasing as he gets more comfortable during his 10-day. The Cavs are going to keep him apparently.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/466 ... 59y5mkvLYF

The pairing of rookie Jeremy Tyler with David Lee looks promising for GSW. Tyler's numbers look good within a modest number of increasing minutes. Don't know how he has been on defense.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/492 ... 59y5mkvLYF

Taking Tyler and Thompson was a good draft for GSW. Doc and a few others thought Tyler would have been a good 2nd round pick for us and would have given us some depth at Center.

dobrojim · Post #1173 » by **dobrojim** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 4:30 pm

what's the story with Lamar Odom in Dallas?

closg00 · Post #1174 » by **closg00** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 5:43 pm

dobrojim wrote:what's the story with Lamar Odom in Dallas?

Reality Show fodder? Hollywood envy?

Post #1175 » by **nate33** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 5:53 pm

closg00 wrote:Lester Hudson appears to be more NBA-ready this time around, his production is increasing as he gets more comfortable during his 10-day. The Cavs are going to keep him apparently.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/466 ... 59y5mkvLYF

There are tons of good shooting guards trapped in point guard's bodies. The hard part is finding a point guard in a shooting guard's body to balance out the roster. We've got one in Wall. We are therefore uniquely suited to utilize a player like Hudson. We should be able to find one in the D League or in the late 2nd round.

I posted before the season that I hoped we would sign Hudson this year.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #1176 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 7:30 pm

dobrojim wrote:what's the story with Lamar Odom in Dallas?

I was standing in the checkout line at the grocery store yesterday. If the cover of some gossip mag--I don't even recall the title-- is to be believed, Lamar got caught with a naked woman. Not a bad thing, unless it is a woman you're not married to, as is the cover implies.

Odom was already supposedly struggling with his basketball commitment and letdown after the trade from the Lakers. Add to that he was a passenger in a traffic accident that involved a fatality. If he's dealing with some issues on the home front as well that spells bad season.

Dallas is going nowhere, regardless, since Tyson Chandler left them in free agency. He was the second most valuable player on that team.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #1177 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 7:35 pm

nate33 wrote:
closg00 wrote:Lester Hudson appears to be more NBA-ready this time around, his production is increasing as he gets more comfortable during his 10-day. The Cavs are going to keep him apparently.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/466 ... 59y5mkvLYF

There are tons of good shooting guards trapped in point guard's bodies. The hard part is finding a point guard in a shooting guard's body to balance out the roster. We've got one in Wall. We are therefore uniquely suited to utilize a player like Hudson. We should be able to find one in the D League or in the late 2nd round.

I posted before the season that I hoped we would sign Hudson this year.

Cleveland is tanking strong with some good D-Leaguers. Donald Sloan and Lester Hudson are logging good minutes for them.

The Wizards are following suit with James Singleton and Cartier Martin. Those guys are decent subs but when you play behind Jan Vesely and Chris Singleton that makes for a powerfully strong tank.

dobrojim · Post #1178 » by **dobrojim** » Mon Apr 9, 2012 7:42 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
dobrojim wrote:what's the story with Lamar Odom in Dallas?

I was standing in the checkout line at the grocery story yesterday. If the cover of some gossip mag--I don't even recall the title-- is to be believed, Lamar got caught with a naked woman. Not a bad thing, unless it is a woman you're not married to, as is the cover implies.

Odom was already supposedly struggling with his basketball commitment and letdown after the trade from the Lakers. Add to that he was a passenger in a traffic accident that involved a fatality. If he's dealing with some issues on the home front as well that spells bad season.

Dallas is going nowhere, regardless, since the Chandler left them in free agency. He was the second most valuable player on that team.

OK. That's more than I was previously aware of but it still begs the question
of whether he would be a reasonable acquisition. The Dray lovers liked to
compare his potential to Odom. Now maybe we could get the real thing if
the cost was reasonable. It wasn't that long ago he was a pretty good player
on a very good ie champ team.

verbal8 · Post #1179 » by **verbal8** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:27 pm

Charlotte may try to take the Hornets' name back.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... s_Nickname

I can see the argument for changing the name, but going back to the Hornets doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. I don't really see a whole lot of history with the name. 4 play-off series wins and 2 50+ win seasons over 13 years is decent, but not too thrilling.

I wonder if New Orleans tries to get the Jazz nickname back(I don't really think they would, but it would be amusing).

Post #1180 » by **montestewart** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:38 pm

verbal8 wrote:Charlotte may try to take the Hornets' name back.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... s_Nickname

I can see the argument for changing the name, but going back to the Hornets doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. I don't really see a whole lot of history with the name. 4 play-off series wins and 2 50+ win seasons over 13 years is decent, but not too thrilling.

I wonder if New Orleans tries to get the Jazz nickname back(I don't really think they would, but it would be amusing).

Remember that Chris Rock video where he's walking around Salt Lake City asking people where the jazz clubs are?