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Game 43: Pacers @ Wizards 03/22/12, 7:00 EST

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Re: Game 43: Pacers @ Wizards 03/22/12, 7:00 EST 

Post#41 » by chube » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:34 am

Somebody fill me in. I've only been able to watch the score tracker because I'm still at work. How did we make the comeback, who came up big at the end? What is the general play-by-play when we overtook the lead?
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Re: Game 43: Pacers @ Wizards 03/22/12, 7:00 EST 

Post#42 » by Indy2thaWindy » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:38 am

chube wrote:Somebody fill me in. I've only been able to watch the score tracker because I'm still at work. How did we make the comeback, who came up big at the end? What is the general play-by-play when we overtook the lead?


Hibbert was scoring down low in the 4th. West had some huge offensive rebounds in the last minute. Paul hit the go ahead 3. Collison tried to blow the game.
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Re: Game 43: Pacers @ Wizards 03/22/12, 7:00 EST 

Post#43 » by Wizop » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:48 am

Indy2thaWindy wrote: Collison tried to blow the game.


glass is half empty. he made the hustle plays to keep the ball alive when West tipped it out. he made the key steal. he made a key free throw. sure he missed the first free throw and that could have cost us but it didn't.

did you notice that when Quinn was asked which player had the chance to make the biggest impact down the stretch he answered Collison. now if you want to say that's because he's got the most room for improvement, fine. I may be alone here but I hope he does improve and does not need to be traded.
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Re: Game 43: Pacers @ Wizards 03/22/12, 7:00 EST 

Post#44 » by Indy2thaWindy » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:54 am

Wizop wrote:
Indy2thaWindy wrote: Collison tried to blow the game.


glass is half empty. he made the hustle plays to keep the ball alive when West tipped it out. he made the key steal. he made a key free throw. sure he missed the first free throw and that could have cost us but it didn't.

did you notice that when Quinn was asked which player had the chance to make the biggest impact down the stretch he answered Collison. now if you want to say that's because he's got the most room for improvement, fine. I may be alone here but I hope he does improve and does not need to be traded.


You were also the only person on the board who didn't think JOB needed to be fired.
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Re: Game 43: Pacers @ Wizards 03/22/12, 7:00 EST 

Post#45 » by glasket » Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:08 am

Wow so much disapproval for Collison.
I still believe he is a worthwhile contributor to this team. I realise over the last few games his performance has been down but so too has most of the team
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Re: Game 43: Pacers @ Wizards 03/22/12, 7:00 EST 

Post#46 » by Wizop » Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:29 am

okay, I'll admit I was slow to get on JOB probably because I'd met him socially and at some ticket holder affairs and thought everything he said seemed well thought out. I knew he was stubborn and it was obvious he wasn't developing the young players but lots of coaches make the rooks sit a year. as it turned out, his system simply didn't work with our talent. I should have seen that sooner because I'm the big Tom Moore fan who believes the coach should design a scheme that fits his talent rather than ask the gm to get players that fit. Mark Boyle made an interesting comment after the Knicks losses. he compared them to us last year saying both teams had fired coaches who had unusual systems that weren't working and he expected the Knicks to go on a late season run this year just as we did last year.

in any event, I'm not saying Collison is great. I'm just showing more patience with him and more willingness to give him time to improve than you are. maybe that's a sign of my old age.
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Re: Game 43: Pacers @ Wizards 03/22/12, 7:00 EST 

Post#47 » by Indy2thaWindy » Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:36 am

Wizop wrote:I'm just showing more patience with him and more willingness to give him time to improve than you are. maybe that's a sign of my old age.


Nah, I'd say 90% of the board is with you.
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Re: Game 43: Pacers @ Wizards 03/22/12, 7:00 EST 

Post#48 » by Nuntius » Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:04 am

Indy2thaWindy wrote:
Wizop wrote:
Indy2thaWindy wrote: Collison tried to blow the game.


glass is half empty. he made the hustle plays to keep the ball alive when West tipped it out. he made the key steal. he made a key free throw. sure he missed the first free throw and that could have cost us but it didn't.

did you notice that when Quinn was asked which player had the chance to make the biggest impact down the stretch he answered Collison. now if you want to say that's because he's got the most room for improvement, fine. I may be alone here but I hope he does improve and does not need to be traded.


You were also the only person on the board who didn't think JOB needed to be fired.


However, he is spot on here.
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Re: Game 43: Pacers @ Wizards 03/22/12, 7:00 EST 

Post#49 » by daschysta » Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:55 am

Indy2thaWindy wrote:
Wizop wrote:
Indy2thaWindy wrote: Collison tried to blow the game.


glass is half empty. he made the hustle plays to keep the ball alive when West tipped it out. he made the key steal. he made a key free throw. sure he missed the first free throw and that could have cost us but it didn't.

did you notice that when Quinn was asked which player had the chance to make the biggest impact down the stretch he answered Collison. now if you want to say that's because he's got the most room for improvement, fine. I may be alone here but I hope he does improve and does not need to be traded.


You were also the only person on the board who didn't think JOB needed to be fired.


You take the Collison hatred way to far. Guy has struggled, but he can still help our team and is a valuable asset. (and I wanted JOB fired btw) He ran the offense way, way better than Hill did tonight btw.
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Re: Re: Game 43: Pacers @ Wizards 03/22/12, 7:00 EST 

Post#50 » by Gremz » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:09 am

Indy2thaWindy wrote:
Wizop wrote:I'm just showing more patience with him and more willingness to give him time to improve than you are. maybe that's a sign of my old age.


Nah, I'd say 90% of the board is with you.


We are 10% of the board?
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Re: Game 43: Pacers @ Wizards 03/22/12, 7:00 EST 

Post#51 » by Miller4ever » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:44 am

It's one thing to knock his weaknesses. It's another to say he TRIED to lose.
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Re: Re: Game 43: Pacers @ Wizards 03/22/12, 7:00 EST 

Post#52 » by Indy2thaWindy » Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:00 am

Gremz wrote:
Indy2thaWindy wrote:
Wizop wrote:I'm just showing more patience with him and more willingness to give him time to improve than you are. maybe that's a sign of my old age.


Nah, I'd say 90% of the board is with you.


We are 10% of the board?


There are a few others.
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Re: Game 43: Pacers @ Wizards 03/22/12, 7:00 EST 

Post#53 » by Indy2thaWindy » Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:09 am

Nuntius wrote:However, he is spot on here.


What? He said he hopes Collison improves and doesn't think he needs to be traded. Spot on with what he hopes? Collison is a scrub. He's not gonna get better. He's been terrible his entire career. Did YOU, YOU PERSONALLY, watch him in New Orleans? If so, you will know he was nowhere near as good as his stats suggested. He's been terrible since he's got here. When this bum is gone and this team is playing much better because of it, you will realize how much of a scrub he is. If we would cut him, the team would get better. It was like Troy Murphy, the team was better with him off the team. I was supposedly wrong about Murphy back then, and now I'm wrong about Collison? No, they are both scrubs who hurt the team just by playing.
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Re: Game 43: Pacers @ Wizards 03/22/12, 7:00 EST 

Post#54 » by Wizop » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:16 pm

Indy2thaWindy wrote:
Nuntius wrote:However, he is spot on here.


What? He said he hopes Collison improves and doesn't think he needs to be traded. Spot on with what he hopes?


I don't think Collison needs to be traded now but I agree he needs to improve and if he doesn't he'll have to be traded or move back to the second unit. as for being spot on, I think he was referring to my comments about the end of last nights game.
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Re: Game 43: Pacers @ Wizards 03/22/12, 7:00 EST 

Post#55 » by Nuntius » Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:07 pm

Indy2thaWindy wrote:
Nuntius wrote:However, he is spot on here.


What? He said he hopes Collison improves and doesn't think he needs to be traded. Spot on with what he hopes? Collison is a scrub. He's not gonna get better. He's been terrible his entire career. Did YOU, YOU PERSONALLY, watch him in New Orleans? If so, you will know he was nowhere near as good as his stats suggested. He's been terrible since he's got here. When this bum is gone and this team is playing much better because of it, you will realize how much of a scrub he is. If we would cut him, the team would get better. It was like Troy Murphy, the team was better with him off the team. I was supposedly wrong about Murphy back then, and now I'm wrong about Collison? No, they are both scrubs who hurt the team just by playing.


I referred to what he said about the end of last night's game.

I don't believe that Collison is a scrub. I believe that our first unit's offense is flawed. I have seen both DC and GH absolutely fail to run it. And frankly I don't think it's in either of them.
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