GT March 23rd Charlotte Vs Milwaukee 7:00 pm

[expo]

Kemba with 9 points, 7 assists and 0 TO in 17 min so far.

dj has 0 pts and 2 asts, and u guys want to keep this bum around

kemba has chosen to take the 2nd most fga's on the team (trailing hendo with 18) and converted on a whopping 3 of 11.

there's your next generation zeke.

I don't think he took any ill advised shots that I remember; any in particular irked you? Of the misses at least a couple of those were shots late in the shot clock that somebody passed the ball to kemba, and a couple of drives to the basket that didn't look bad to me. Or do you just not like it that he missed?

[BigSlam]

I don't think he took any ill advised shots that I remember

With his horrible and inconsistent jump shot, any that he takes is pretty much ill advised. We are 45 games into the season and he is shooting 31% from three - yet he is still taking 3 attempts from range per game? Kemba, you SUCK at jump shooting - especially from range: STOP TAKING THEM!!!

He has an ok handle and is slithery as hell. He has good body control and a pretty good ability to finish at the rim. Of his 12 FGA's tonight, how many do you think were in the paint?

3.

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That's horrible - especially when driving is his strength and shooting is his absolute weakness.

Of the misses at least a couple of those were shots late in the shot clock that somebody passed the ball to kemba

If he's playing lead guard, then be the lead guard. Too many times he takes far too long to get the team into their set and too long to execute. More often than not the shot clock is winding down because Kemba has taken too long to get the ball to someone. He spends 13-18 of the 1st 24 seconds pounding the ball and not getting it off. He should know way earlier that the play has broken down and do something about it. Go and get the ball of the guy earlier and give your team a chance to execute something else. If Kemba was a better point guard, we wouldn't have to jack up as many shot clock beating shots.

I like Kemba and I so want him to be awesome, but he'd not. Not at least right now and he seems a LONG way off it.

Pretty disappointing for a guy many pegged as the most NBA ready in his draft class. And like I said the other week, even more disappointing that there really hasn't seemed to be any growth out of him as the season as gone on.

He's pretty much the same player today as he was 4 months ago.

[Eoghan]

I'm not sure Kyrie Irving would be a ROY front runner if he was in a Bobcats' uni. We suck that badly.

[expo]

Can't argue with your point that he should simply shoot less because he misses a lot. However, I think some of that is on the system they're running. They seem to only run the same two g-d plays all the time(this may be on Kemba maybe it's his choice). The 2 guard curls around a screen while kemba waits for him to get open, or the pick and pop with mully/thomas. These are not fast developing plays especially with the second unit when it takes Mully about 8 seconds to set a screen or nobody gets open on a curl. I can't for the life of me understand why we have to be so predictable when our offense is horrid to begin with; maybe the level of ineptitude is so high that we can't really run anything else.

So again if the point is he's not good because he's not a good shooter; you'd have to be dense to argue against that. The reason I think he is good and could be really good is that:

1. I think he can improve his shooting
2. He doesn't turnover the ball; and I think he's a good passer
3. Special plays. I don't know what you want to call it, juju, mojo, it. The more he plays the more he makes incredible plays(grabs a needed rebound, makes a timely strip, and even hits a needed shot or impossible shot) I think it was this game he raced back and stripped the ball on easy fast break.

[advanced]

If Kemba was the only one struggling with his efficiency youd have a much better argument that he individually sucks. But its pretty obvious when everyone on the teams efficiency blows that its probably the system

[KingCat]

I'm not sure Kyrie Irving would be a ROY front runner if he was in a Bobcats' uni. We suck that badly.

+1

[Stun704]

If Kemba was the only one struggling with his efficiency youd have a much better argument that he individually sucks. But its pretty obvious when everyone on the teams efficiency blows that its probably the system

Exactly, Slam is doing his best battery impression, except instead of going against the grain he's just coming off annoying with his ill-advised hate on Kemba

[Stun704]

I don't think he took any ill advised shots that I remember

With his horrible and inconsistent jump shot, any that he takes is pretty much ill advised. We are 45 games into the season and he is shooting 31% from three - yet he is still taking 3 attempts from range per game? Kemba, you SUCK at jump shooting - especially from range: STOP TAKING THEM!!!

He has an ok handle and is slithery as hell. He has good body control and a pretty good ability to finish at the rim. Of his 12 FGA's tonight, how many do you think were in the paint?

3.

http://www.nba.com/tvc/index.html?gamec ... &brand=NBA

That's horrible - especially when driving is his strength and shooting is his absolute weakness.

Of the misses at least a couple of those were shots late in the shot clock that somebody passed the ball to kemba

If he's playing lead guard, then be the lead guard. Too many times he takes far too long to get the team into their set and too long to execute. More often than not the shot clock is winding down because Kemba has taken too long to get the ball to someone. He spends 13-18 of the 1st 24 seconds pounding the ball and not getting it off. He should know way earlier that the play has broken down and do something about it. Go and get the ball of the guy earlier and give your team a chance to execute something else. If Kemba was a better point guard, we wouldn't have to jack up as many shot clock beating shots.

I like Kemba and I so want him to be awesome, but he'd not. Not at least right now and he seems a LONG way off it.

Pretty disappointing for a guy many pegged as the most NBA ready in his draft class. And like I said the other week, even more disappointing that there really hasn't seemed to be any growth out of him as the season as gone on.

He's pretty much the same player today as he was 4 months ago.

whole bunch of box score watching. i know you watch the game, but you're using the boxscore to invalidate the eye-test. yeah kemba misses a lot of shots, but he has to force a lot of his offense because ABSOLTUELY NOBODY except Hendo, and DJ on a more rarer occasion can make their own offense. Kemba got 7 assists and 0 turnovers, yet you aren't giving him props on that, you're hawking on the fact he took 12 shots and missed 8.. big whop, that just goes to show how anemic our offense is. the backup PG took 12 shots, and that was the 2nd most FGA attempt for the whole team. conversley 4 players took 12 FGA's on the other team.

OH i get it you'd rather Kemba be a timid bitch and only put up 2 FGA's in 20 mins despite being the starter. I rather have a chucker whos not afraid of the moment and is willing to make offense happen, then a 5'10 boris diaw any day of the week.

How do you expect Kemba to improve his shot form in the midst of the condensed season.. give him a break and at least wait til next season before you spew this haterade.

[fatlever]

If you were Roy Williams, would you start Cory Higgins over Stilman White?

here's the better question, would you start higgins over barnes?

[fatlever]

i have to think that augustin was protesting diaw being relased by impersonating diaw tonight. it was a sign of team unity, except nobody else got the memo.

rather disappointed with biz again tonight.

hendo looked fantastic. i want him to stay this aggressive every night. he needs to shoot 15+ times a game.

[Stun704]

i have to think that augustin was protesting diaw being relased by impersonating diaw tonight. it was a sign of team unity, except nobody else got the memo.

rather disappointed with biz again tonight.

hendo looked fantastic. i want him to stay this aggressive every night. he needs to shoot 15+ times a game.

I wish we would have traded his bum ass at the deadline for puke walton and LAL pick, i think there will be a good player that will free fall, like Austin Rivers

[Jaruff]

i have to think that augustin was protesting diaw being relased by impersonating diaw tonight. it was a sign of team unity, except nobody else got the memo.

rather disappointed with biz again tonight.

hendo looked fantastic. i want him to stay this aggressive every night. he needs to shoot 15+ times a game.

I wish we would have traded his bum ass at the deadline for puke walton and LAL pick, i think there will be a good player that will free fall, like Austin Rivers

That wouldn't make any sense.

Why pay $5m+ for a draft pick we can buy for $2-3m?

[Stun704]

i have to think that augustin was protesting diaw being relased by impersonating diaw tonight. it was a sign of team unity, except nobody else got the memo.

rather disappointed with biz again tonight.

hendo looked fantastic. i want him to stay this aggressive every night. he needs to shoot 15+ times a game.

I wish we would have traded his bum ass at the deadline for puke walton and LAL pick, i think there will be a good player that will free fall, like Austin Rivers

That wouldn't make any sense.

Why pay $5m+ for a draft pick we can buy for $2-3m?

if only it'd be that easy, i see us being able to buy a 2nd rounder, but i don't see anyone giving up their first rounder in a draft loaded with quality role players

[fatlever]

i do agree that i think we missed our best chance to get the most value for augustin. we will likely end up losing him for nothing (except cap space), either this summer or next.

[Battery]

If Kemba was the only one struggling with his efficiency youd have a much better argument that he individually sucks. But its pretty obvious when everyone on the teams efficiency blows that its probably the system

Exactly, Slam is doing his best battery impression, except instead of going against the grain he's just coming off annoying with his ill-advised hate on Kemba

I don't know what Slam is doing with regards to Kemba, but for myself, I call it like it I see it. It has nothing to do with going against the grain. The reason why it seems like I have been going against the grain is because the Bobcats have never really had a player I fully believe in. If I don't fully believe in a player, then I end up picking apart their entire game. And for the record, I was on Team DJ in year 1, but in his second year he proved that he was never going to be someone we could rely on in the clutch. So what's the point? Get rid of him ASAP, because you can't win with those types. Same with Oka-stiff. I called for that clown to be dealt before he signed his big deal. If we did a full rebuild then, we wouldn't be at square 1 now.

I'm still on team Kemba. I will hold off until next season before I begin to really judge him.

Oh and don't pay any attention to Slam's player evaluations cause he's almost always wrong. So he hates Kemba, which means he will probably make the all star team next season.

[captaincrunk]

Kemba with 9 points, 7 assists and 0 TO in 17 min so far.

dj has 0 pts and 2 asts, and u guys want to keep this bum around

Because Kemba has never had a bad game.

Kemba with 9 points, 7 assists and 0 TO in 17 min so far.

dj has 0 pts and 2 asts, and u guys want to keep this bum around

kemba has chosen to take the 2nd most fga's on the team (trailing hendo with 18) and converted on a whopping 3 of 11.

there's your next generation zeke.

[BigSlam]

Oh and don't pay any attention to Slam's player evaluations cause he's almost always wrong. So he hates Kemba, which means he will probably make the all star team next season.

That's hilarious coming from you. You have never been right - on a player, a coach or a situation and as soon as your are exposed, you go underground and stop posting. Classic Battery. The only time you were right was with Irving and he was a run away slam dunk to be a good player. Way to put yourself out there.

Then you have Stun who posts every where making our entire fan base look like a pack of homer knobs that we have the next Zeke, Kobe and Dwight on our team. But if we had the next Zeke, Kobe and Dwight on our team then why do we suck arse so bad? Right, it's because of the coach or the starting PG or the shot clock or the schedule or what ever other reason you can come up with.

If Kemba was so great and DJA is so bad, then why can't Kemba beat him out to become the starting PG? It's actually a pretty easy answer: Because Kemba isn't that good. I do agree with expo - there are moments in a game where he doesn't something good - like hustle for a ball or sky for a rebound or split the D and drive to the hole - but that doesn't offset the dozen or so things that make you shake your head. Remember - this is the guy so many people in the know suggested was the most ready for the NBA. Kemba is the same inefficient, SG trapped in an undersized PG's body that he was in college. I like the kid, he is an exciting players at times, but he hasn't done anything at all to make me think he is our PG of the future or anything more than an energy guy off the bench. He's like Lou Williams (without the range). So based on that I would trade Kemba in a nano second for someone like Mayo. Mayo, like Kemba, is an energy type 6th man but Mayo is bigger and can actually hit a long ball.

And DJA is no better so don't make this out to be some "PG #1 Vs PG #2" thing. DJA doesn't have the size or killer instinct a team needs from their starting PG. Just like Fats said the other week: I want them both gone because neither of them are going to lead us any where.

Finally, Kemba reminds me wayyyyyyyyy too much of Felton. And that ain't a good thing.

[ohara]

I think it is way too early to say Kemba is not going to be capable of being our starting PG for the long term. He has a ton of talent and is only a Rookie. The difference between he and DJA is confidence and leadership. I would like DJA back if we could sign him in the range of $4 mil, but dont see that happening. I cannot see the Kemba comparison to Felton.

[advanced]

I guess if you downplay everything Kemba does well and hype up all his flaws he does look pretty bad. derp

[fatlever]

its not about trying to bash kemba or to prove a point on a message board. we all would love to see kemba take off and become a top 5 point guard. for me, this is more about trying to set realistic expectations for the future, based on what i have seen this season. based on what i have seen, there isnt much in kemba's game that makes me think he can be a top 5 (or even top 10) point guard. does that mean he will suck? no it doesnt, because life isnt binary code, its not a series of yes or no answers. kemba has already proven he can be a solid guard off the bench on a bad NBA team. so that is his floor. i just think that everyone is setting themselves up for disappointment when they let their desire to see kemba be a star interfere with being cautiously optimistic.

(the same can be said of all our young players - biz and hendo specifically. however, i have seen more from biz and hendo that makes me think they have more long term starter potential.)

i am going to try not to really pile it on kemba for at least another year. i really hope he can add some consistency to his jump shot over the next year and also start to show more signs of being able to run an offense.

what i think is going to happen - kemba will show enough improvement to eventually take over the starting pg spot (partly because i dont expect augustin to stay long-term). he'll have some really big games next year and people will get excited and a bunch of "i told you so" threads will emerge from the kemba homers. but a few more years will pass and ultimately kemba is still too inefficient, still struggles to be a true point guard, can't to lead a team to the playoffs as the starting pg and eventually he settles into a combo guard role off the bench, either with us or another team. not a great career, not a bad career.