2012 NBA Draft - Part II

[mhd]

The following teams wouldn't take Beal IMO:
1) Hornets (have Gordon, and would take Drummond, MKG, and Robinson over him);
2) Bobcats (Henderson is ok, and would take Barnes, Drummond, Robinson, etc);
3) Pistons (would take Drummond, and Robinson, and Barnes, and MKG, and move Monroe to C);
4) Nets (Brooks);
5) Portland (would take Drummond, Robinson, etc, have Matthews signed longterm, and have E. Williams who they like).

WEll Gordan is a free agent still.

RFA, and Stern (and the new owner) aren't going to let the marquee player they got in return for CP3 just walk away.

[truwizfan4evr]

The following teams wouldn't take Beal IMO:
1) Hornets (have Gordon, and would take Drummond, MKG, and Robinson over him);
2) Bobcats (Henderson is ok, and would take Barnes, Drummond, Robinson, etc);
3) Pistons (would take Drummond, and Robinson, and Barnes, and MKG, and move Monroe to C);
4) Nets (Brooks);
5) Portland (would take Drummond, Robinson, etc, have Matthews signed longterm, and have E. Williams who they like).

WEll Gordan is a free agent still.

RFA, and Stern (and the new owner) aren't going to let the marquee player they got in return for CP3 just walk away.

Its not up to them new Orleans can offer him a contract. But it doesn't mean he will resign. I would like wizards to go after him and we draft Thomas Robinson.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

If Ohio upsets UNC, Tyler Zeller could score 40 and get 40 boards and he still won't be drafted as high as Harrison Barnes.

[tontoz]

Epic fail game from Barnes. Wow

Huge game from Zeller. Is Bulluck going to declare for the draft?

[Liverbird]

Ohio could be done. What a fantastic 2nd half run though - I really thought they had UNC beat.

Barnes does nothing for me at all. Way too passive.

[KevinFCheng]

Wall with the ball and MKG running with him on the break or Beal on the wing for the spot up.
I'd take MKG or Beal 2nd overall if we don't win the lottery. Barnes weaknesses were exploited without Marshall. I'm afraid Robinson doesn't have much of a post game, he could be Booker but with more height (barely).

That's why we need a top 3 pick to secure Davis, MKG, or Beal.

[Dat2U]

I think we can finally end the MKG vs. Barnes debate. (There never should have been one IMO). A more worthy debate is MKG vs. Beal. I lean towards MKG because of the physical tools but Beal is two inches away from being the prototypical SG.

Admittedly I'm having concerns about Robinson's offensive ability too. He really needs to develop that 15 footer IMO. I know his rebounding & activity level will translate but will anything else? I keep coming back to Kenyon Martin before the injuries as the best comp in terms of effectiveness. More rebounding, a touch less defensive impact. More of a 12-15 ppg scorer than a 1st or 2nd option.

[Severn Hoos]

I think we can finally end the MKG vs. Barnes debate. (There never should have been one IMO). A more worthy debate is MKG vs. Beal. I lean towards MKG because of the physical tools but Beal is two inches away from being the prototypical SG.

Admittedly I'm having concerns about Robinson's offensive ability too. He really needs to develop that 15 footer IMO. I know his rebounding & activity level will translate but will anything else? I keep coming back to Kenyon Martin before the injuries as the best comp in terms of effectiveness. More rebounding, a touch less defensive impact. More of a 12-15 ppg scorer than a 1st or 2nd option.

Yep, another game in the low 40s (FG%) today. I think it's entirely possible that he could be a double digit rebounder in the NBA, but I just don't see how he's going to score. He won't get that many shots (unless he's on a bad team), so scoring a point per FGA or less will probably keep him on the bench quite a bit. And he still looks really small (for a big man) out there to me. Measurements may tell more of a story, wingspan may make up for some of that lack of height.

To put it in CCJ terms, how exactly would he be better than Fareid?

[doclinkin]

All depends on lotto position of course but if we slipped, or if we landed the #2 and traded down for future value (GSW or Toronto?) sure I'd be alright with taking Bradley Beal with that high pick.

If we came away from this draft with Brad Beal, Jae Crowder, Fab Melo (and a Eurostash with the Dallas pick) plus the right to swap picks in future draft with GSW, I'd be happy.

We already have the foundations of a smart tough scrappy team, and even if we'd be undersized at many positions, we'd leave bruises on a nightly basis. Imagine a DC team noted for it's defensive toughness. Still no reliable shooting, though Beal and Crowder would help open up the floor a bit. No positive mismatch in our favor, other than John Wall in the open court. No second superstar. But it would be easy to root for these guys on effort alone.

Wall/Mack/Chuck Crawford
Beal/Chuck
???future draft, shooter, or Singleton with an improved jumper/ Crowder
Nene/Booker/Vesely
Seraphin/Fab Melo

Looks to me like we'd have solid defensive eFG. We'd still need improved interior rebounding, and I wish we had a PF with a little range but would force more outside shots for our 2nd line rebounders to grab.

[NoVaO]

I have a feeling Beal will measure out very well, particularly with his height. Just an eyeball test but he looks taller than his listed 6-foot-3 height.

Also, while he's had a very good tournament, I wouldn't say he's blown up or anything. He's shot the ball better, but it's not like he was some 6 ppg scorer coming into the tournament. He was already averaging a solid 14 points, and the fact that he fills up the stat sheet in ways other than scoring is encouraging. I'll say he's definitely grown on me the past couple of weeks.

[BruceO]

Top pick outside of davis i'd look at kidd gilchrist (always steps up huge in big games plus can rebound well) Beal if he can be good defensively and measure out well but i'd still take him and an outside shot at perry if both are gone. Positive is all these guys are winning and are in elite eight now despite whatever let downs. I'd like to trade into tyler zeller, terrence ross, waiters, royce white territory. Free agency look at courtney lee and forty year old grant hill and solidify our wings this year

[BruceO]

Top pick outside of davis i'd look at kidd gilchrist (always steps up huge in big games plus can rebound well) Beal if he can be good defensively and measure out well but i'd still take him and an outside shot at perry if both are gone. Positive is all these guys are winning and are in elite eight now despite whatever let downs. I'd like to trade into tyler zeller, terrence ross, waiters, royce white territory. Free agency look at courtney lee and forty year old grant hill and solidify our wings this year

[BruceO]

Top pick outside of davis i'd look at kidd gilchrist (always steps up huge in big games plus can rebound well) Beal if he can be good defensively and measure out well but i'd still take him and an outside shot at perry if both are gone. Positive is all these guys are winning and are in elite eight now despite whatever let downs. I'd like to trade into tyler zeller, terrence ross, waiters, royce white territory. Free agency look at courtney lee and forty year old grant hill and solidify our wings this year

[truwizfan4evr]

I think Beal is a very good player but his 6 foot 3 height scares me in the nba. I think Mkg and wall would be a good tandem. Harrison Barnes struggle 3 for 16 from the floor. MKG is a safe pick in my eyes and its a guy that the wizards really need. Maybe we can draft a shooter in the second round or trade for another first round pick on draft night.

[truwizfan4evr]

Well nbadraft.net has Beal listed as 6 foot 3. I guess that's not to bad he's a pretty good defender. But I would much rather have MKG ahead of him then. If we get the second pick i'll pick MKg if not him Beal or Thomas Robinson. http://www.nbadraft.net/players/bradley-beal

[nate33]

I have a feeling Beal will measure out very well, particularly with his height. Just an eyeball test but he looks taller than his listed 6-foot-3 height.

Also, while he's had a very good tournament, I wouldn't say he's blown up or anything. He's shot the ball better, but it's not like he was some 6 ppg scorer coming into the tournament. He was already averaging a solid 14 points, and the fact that he fills up the stat sheet in ways other than scoring is encouraging. I'll say he's definitely grown on me the past couple of weeks.

Also, Beal looks like another guy with no neck and a small head. He may be 6-3, but he's going to have the standing reach of a 6-5 guy.

[nate33]

Best case scenario (short of landing the #1 pick) is to get the 2nd or 3rd pick with Andre Drummond still on the board. Portland is likely to end up with the 5th and 11th pick. We could trade Drummond for their two picks, draft Beal at #5 and the BPA at #11.

At 11, we might get one of the Zellers, Terrence Jones, Quincy Miller, or maybe Perry Jones or Sullinger slips.

[truwizfan4evr]

Best case scenario (short of landing the #1 pick) is to get the 2nd or 3rd pick with Andre Drummond still on the board. Portland is likely to end up with the 5th and 11th pick. We could trade Drummond for their two picks, draft Beal at #5 and the BPA at #11.

At 11, we might get one of the Zellers, Terrence Jones, Quincy Miller, or maybe Perry Jones or Sullinger slips.

Good idea nate. we trade with Portland. Imagine we land Beal and perry Jones giving us a solid starting lineup. Beal at sg and Perry at small forward. We have a good starting 5 heading into the future.

[mhd]

Best case scenario (short of landing the #1 pick) is to get the 2nd or 3rd pick with Andre Drummond still on the board. Portland is likely to end up with the 5th and 11th pick. We could trade Drummond for their two picks, draft Beal at #5 and the BPA at #11.

At 11, we might get one of the Zellers, Terrence Jones, Quincy Miller, or maybe Perry Jones or Sullinger slips.

I think the Wiz would want ANY team to take on Blatche if we got the #2 pick and traded down. In your Por example, we'd want a Matthews for Blatche swap or Smith+Thomas+Babbitt for Blatche swap.

[truwizfan4evr]

I don't see why we would take on Matthew large contract either. He's been a bust since signing that contract.