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Amare Has Bulging Disc, Out 2-4 Weeks, Taking Epidural

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Post#321 » by noto12ious » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:27 am

jerome jordan, batter up!
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Post#322 » by kinein » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:29 am

noto12ious wrote:jerome jordan, batter up!



Really confused why Woodson isn't giving him some more serious minutes. I'm guessing he isnt looking good in practice. But I think Jordan physically looks better than Harrellson
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Post#323 » by adrenaLINe » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:34 am

the guy is injured... if you guys want to blame anyone blame the management for bringing Amare to NY

amare did nothing anyone else wouldnt have done... and that is get the most money he can...

btw I know were not suppose to bring up SAS... but he did a real hatchet job in his last write up on Amare... for a guy who was playing through injuries...
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Post#324 » by SilverQT » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:35 am

Bad news for Amar'e and the Knicks. He was just hitting his stride and now this. Truthfully, his contract concerns me alot because his injuries are serious and take a lot of time to recover from. If he ever really recovers. But the most important thing is for him to get treatment and heal up properly. Nothing we can really do about the contract now.
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Post#325 » by Context » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:59 am

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Dr. Detfink wrote:Really? We really believe Amar'e contributed to getting Melo? *snicker*

Yea, cause that's why neither can play together or will adjust their game.

Right...that kind of thinking is what landed the Knicks in this situation in the first place.Knicks thought D'Antoni hiring would attract Lebron cause of James said he enjoyed playing in his system in the Olympics.

Then Walsh fearing Knicks would get shut out, gave Amar'e TWO extra yrs to Phoenix's offer of 3 yrs offer despite KNOWING Amar'e health problems. Keep in mind, Phoenix Suns have the same sports docs that guys like A-Rod went to...

The Suns couldn't have thanked the Knicks enough for over-paying.

Now, IF you think Amar'e came for NY...think again, he did it for 100M over 5 seasons NOT cause he LOVES NYC....

And Melo did the SAME thing. NEITHER of these guys are interested in winning.


You know what the Knicks are? That worthless girl you call up all the time to get f#%ked all the time. That's why these free agents demand MAX CATS.

And if Paul was SO committed to Amar'e and Melo, he would not have taken the option with the Clips. In other words, the CLIPPERS are more attractive than the Knicks!!!!!!!

Don't worry when Paul's knee is about to go, he'll call NYK.


So true. Can't believe there are so many people here trying to treat this news indifferently. We have basically f***ed ourselves for the foreseeable future with Ama're's contract. There is no positive spin on this. These are two major injuries in two years now. If he even comes back now, he will not be the same. He will not be a $20m player, which means we are **** since we have so much of our cap space tied up in him. Furthermore, what's to say he will not get injured again ? Again, two major injuries in two years, also had an injury history at Phoenix. His career is basically toast, which once again, means that we are f***ed.

Also think about this. This will basically give Lin an incentive to just sign a 1 year QO and then look to run. Would he want to stick four years in a team with Ama're not playing ? We traded away our draft picks for Melo and will not be able to improve the team through picks. Imagine four more years of Landry Fields at SG? He will have better offers from other teams for sure.


Well, atleast his back is insured.
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Post#326 » by summerg » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:09 am

I like Stat. I think he works hard and he has heart. But that contract is really going to kill this team.
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Post#327 » by KnicksFTW » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:48 am

It's a bulging disk and the one thing we have known about Amare is his ability to recover. Its a different issue and with all the stuff thats been going on this season, is it really a shocker? Do you guys really think we could take the chip this season cmon?! It took Miami a a full season and training camp to learn how to play together and they still struggle. I would take this dude ANY DAY over the other bums we have had on the past and overpaid for.

Amare brings in the intangibles that this Knicks team has lacked for 10 years. Even if he is has a season ending injury, other teams aren't really getting that much better if you really put it in perspective. DRose has missed 17 games this season. Celtics are getting older...If with all the ups and downs we make it into the second round, i'm the happiest camper alive. THat means we go into next season with our eyes only on one thing.

We're New Yorkers. We deal with stress and turmoil on a regular basis, but the reason what makes us so great is our ability to overcome all obstacles and hardships.

No one could've saw this back issue coming. But everyone saw a lack of an interior presence on defense. This game without our defense wouldve been a lost. We wouldve strictly relied on Amare's scoring tandems to get it done. Defense lets you compete...and hopefully with a few lucky possessions and team basketball, we will do damage.

Thankfully the team didn't rely on Amare most of the season so this is something that they are probably already used too. All these minimum signed players are getting the opportunity of a life time, by being a part of history and guys like Novak and Jeffries and Lin having career years. They will show up because they know how much it means to them as their careers unfold in the future.

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Post#328 » by spree2kawhi » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:27 am

the amare haters from three weeks ago will be eating their words. beginning... now.
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Post#329 » by gethigh » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:45 am

adrenaLINe wrote:the guy is injured... if you guys want to blame anyone blame the management for bringing Amare to NY

amare did nothing anyone else wouldnt have done... and that is get the most money he can...

btw I know were not suppose to bring up SAS... but he did a real hatchet job in his last write up on Amare... for a guy who was playing through injuries...


I think the STUPIDEST thing that happened was picking up Billups team option and then burning the amnesty on HIM (when he was an expiring anyway). The amnesty clause was the GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD on that terrible deal.

The shrewd business move would have been to decline the team option on Alien head and SAVE the amnesty for the guy with a detached retina/balky knees.

I can't believe how stupid the front office is. So they made a gentlemen's agreement at the trade deadline to Billups that they would pick up the team option on 2011/2012. So they played the political game of keeping nice with Billup's agent and ended up **** themselves for 2-3 years. And Billups still badmouthed the franchise after they picked up the TO anyway :lol: It's the nice guys in this business who finish last.
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Post#330 » by Dr. Detfink » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:47 am

Watch what? This guy having mai Thais in South Beach?

All I want to know is, how many yrs till we can amnesty this guy? Cause that contract is going to make this team regret they even hired Walsh...never mind, Melo can opt out before Amar'e contract is even over.
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Post#331 » by gethigh » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:48 am

Well, at least we aren't the Nets.
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Post#332 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:31 am

I found the news of Amare's disc a real downer. I commend the many people on the board who remain positive considering we played as well without Amare as with him, but that is hardly a consolation for being stuck with a player who can't even play now. It is not like he can grin and bear it. He is completely out of commission. Lest people forget, he had over half a year to heal his back before and it still took him several months of playing before he started to play well. Basically, we got the good version of Amar'e for two weeks or about $10 million per week of meaningful production this season. Awesome.

The implications so early in a massive 5 year contract are a big black cloud for this fan. There is no positive spin to put on it. With Melo having his worst career professionally, we're not going to make lemonade out of these lemons. I have not given up on Melo, but his excuse is also injuries. Bad luck? Yeah, you can call it that if you want.

But nobody can tell me either Stat or Melo are going to bring elite basketball to NYC at this point. They have to prove it on the court. Amar'e tried his best the first half of last season and he's been running on fumes most of the time since. You can say Melo was good for a couple of small stretches, but I've yet to see him be the star of the team with any kind of consistency.

The most important fact about Melo so far is the team cannot rely on him yet. And if anyone wants to tell me that will change when he is healthy and in shape, well then all you're saying is wait until next year for Melo to be ready to deliver on his promise. Because he is not in shape now and he is coming up lame all the time and if you think he is going to magically get it together physically this season, then you're an optimist who believes what I do not.

And I feel no matter how groovy our team plays without Stat and Melo, I can't help feeling we're behind the 8 ball when over half our salary gives us little in return. At the level Melo has played this year, he's replaceable by players who make a fraction of what he does, so let's not pretend he has meant that much to the team this year. He should and I'm sure he will become more valuable again, but right now I don't see a guy who is presently capable of bringing it.

If we can make a run for the playoffs regardless, that's cool, but I still find this whole situation pretty marginal. The only hope I see is both Lin and Baron remain physically strong and Tyson stays healthy and gets help from Jeffries soon. Otherwise, I don't believe the rest of the team is significant enough to make a serious impact in the playoffs.

We should have been a contender this season, but the deck is stacked against us. If we had dumped D'Antoni when we should have, we'd probably have a better record right now to help us out and the division lead, but we'd still be with the same issues going forward. Other teams are hurt too, but that is irrelevant to me.
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Post#333 » by chales_zed » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:01 am

Clyde_Style wrote:I found the news of Amare's disc a real downer.


I agree with all points but I feel your post has too much emphasis on meeting the expectations of this year. The moment we were 8-15 and Amare & Carmelo were injured expectations should have been re-evaluated. The emergence of Lin may have changed that but after the honeymoon was over nobody who has been following intently could honestly say we were going to be competitive in the post-season this year.

Amare's injury and the whole MDA debacle indicates to me that we will never be a true contender for the next three years. Chandler will only gradually decline, the roster depth is only going to get weaker, Carmelo is not the same caliber of player as other superstars and we simply won't have the salary space to create a competitive core that will be comparable to Chicago, Miami, San Antonio, OKC, Lakers. We're a middle-of-the-pack talent. 1st or 2nd round outs.
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Post#334 » by NoStatsGuy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:14 am

so he gave us one good pre deadline in 2010/2011 for 100 miollion guaranteed money.. uhm nice!

dont be too optimistic about him comming back.

he will never be the same and will be a 13/6 guy in 2013. so, f uck that wasted money

oh well good rehab and get well soon amare
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Post#335 » by rammagen » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:59 am

adrenaLINe wrote:the guy is injured... if you guys want to blame anyone blame the management for bringing Amare to NY

amare did nothing anyone else wouldnt have done... and that is get the most money he can...

btw I know were not suppose to bring up SAS... but he did a real hatchet job in his last write up on Amare... for a guy who was playing through injuries...

yes and no. IF we performed like he did this year many of us would have been looking for work.
s far as playing thru injuries players get injured, but come on three months from his last back and was not the same player came in over weight and if he uirt his back lifting weights......
My issue is with the Knicks training staff we seem to have a lot of injuries and not just the groins but some serious issues that either been over looked or missed..
This Amae injury just did not happen in that game it has to have been something ongoing from the playoffs and he just aggravated it worse with his play in the last two weeks, Does anyone find it odd he played like crap til the last two weeks then started playing well and then his back hurts?
He has not played above the rim at all this year. Yeah his back was fine the start of the year.........NOT
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Post#336 » by hatnlvr » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:51 am

I wouldn't count him out just yet. I bet he is back on the court this season and will rehab the back in the offseason.
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Post#337 » by JoseChinga » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:56 am

blumatic wrote:STAT a bad signing?

No STAT, no Melo, No Billups,= No Tyson, No Lin.


So what?

Tyson and Lin have been great, but the Knicks are still a .500 team.

The Stat signing and Carmelo deal never upgraded the Knicks. The additions of Lin, Chandler, Novak, Jefferies, Smith and Shumpert is what made this team who they are.
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Post#338 » by KnickGawd28 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:16 pm

JoseChinga wrote:
blumatic wrote:STAT a bad signing?

No STAT, no Melo, No Billups,= No Tyson, No Lin.


So what?

Tyson and Lin have been great, but the Knicks are still a .500 team.

The Stat signing and Carmelo deal never upgraded the Knicks. The additions of Lin, Chandler, Novak, Jefferies, Smith and Shumpert is what made this team who they are.

What ? Stat & Melo never upgraded the Knicks I don't get this comment..
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Post#339 » by Anotha Knicks fan » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:28 pm

RELAX GUYS... you guys have it all wrong. Did you not hear Al Trautwig at the beginning of sportscast? He said Amare has a bulging dick. LOL

Didnt have time to check the boards till now, and I figured it should've been brought up in this thread at least.
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Post#340 » by K_ick_God » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:31 pm

chales_zed wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:I found the news of Amare's disc a real downer.


I agree with all points but I feel your post has too much emphasis on meeting the expectations of this year. The moment we were 8-15 and Amare & Carmelo were injured expectations should have been re-evaluated. The emergence of Lin may have changed that but after the honeymoon was over nobody who has been following intently could honestly say we were going to be competitive in the post-season this year.

Amare's injury and the whole MDA debacle indicates to me that we will never be a true contender for the next three years. Chandler will only gradually decline, the roster depth is only going to get weaker, Carmelo is not the same caliber of player as other superstars and we simply won't have the salary space to create a competitive core that will be comparable to Chicago, Miami, San Antonio, OKC, Lakers. We're a middle-of-the-pack talent. 1st or 2nd round outs.



Funny you mention Chandler declining gradually and then cite the Spurs core as something we can't compete with, even though all their top players are far older than Chandler.

That's irrational.

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