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NiL8r87 wrote:ty123 wrote:Kendall Marshall will be a good player as well.
Right now I'd love to have Marshall on the team. Manages a starting lineup loaded with lottery picks, he goes down and they look completely lost on offence. That alone makes me interested in the guy, but he had alot of great moments in the tourney before going down.
It's easy to blame all this weird, precocious ugliness as well as Barnes's basketball troubles on the "fast-paced media," high school recruiting, and big-time college athletics, but the somewhat liberating truth is that Harrison Barnes just wasn't a great basketball player. He was good, sure, and shot the ball with a confidence that went far beyond his youth, but he never really developed any other part of his game. He'd go crashing into the boards and pull down a jaw-dropping rebound, but then he'd follow that with 10 minutes of standing around on defense. He never figured out how to get to the basket. He never found a way to reliably distribute the ball in transition. Instead, Barnes's improvements were the sort that could be easily dispensed through the media. He put on 15 pounds of muscle between his freshman and sophomore years. He "committed himself to defense." He "came back to win a national championship." He did everything he could do to build the perception that he was competing the right way. But he did not really improve as a basketball player.1
1.Here's the other problem, particularly for whatever NBA team drafts Barnes. It's possible that the reason why he didn't improve is that there just isn't much ceiling left. Barnes has no first step, he doesn't have a particularly great feel for the game, especially in the half court, and he doesn't play much defense. I guess he's technically a good rebounder for his size, but he's rarely showed sustained effort on the boards. He'll probably settle somewhere between Arron Afflalo and Jared Dudley, but definitely not much more than that. Carolina's other all-purpose super-recruit, Marvin Williams, had some of the same problems. He would show flashes in pretty much every part of his game, but could never find the one thing he could do to consistently affect the play on the court. Barnes is a much, much better shooter than Marvin was, but he's not the same level of athlete. It's just difficult to see where Barnes would really fit in an NBA roster — he'll shoot well from beyond the arc, but do you really want to spend a top-five pick on a jump shooter who couldn't get to the rim in college?
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NiL8r87 wrote:ty123 wrote:Kendall Marshall will be a good player as well.
Right now I'd love to have Marshall on the team. Manages a starting lineup loaded with lottery picks, he goes down and they look completely lost on offence. That alone makes me interested in the guy, but he had alot of great moments in the tourney before going down.
DreamTeam09 wrote:nbadraft.net
Has updated its draft order & has us taking Barnes at 5.
1. Davis (Cha)
2. MKG (Was)
3. TRob (No)
4. Drummond (Por via NJ)
5. Barnes (Tor)
I would love to have the draft playout like that leaving us to choose from Barnes & Lamb. I willing to say Barnes at 5 is a steal and will have a better 1st contract production with us than 4 guys drafted above him.
DreamTeam09 wrote:nbadraft.net
Has updated its draft order & has us taking Barnes at 5.
1. Davis (Cha)
2. MKG (Was)
3. TRob (No)
4. Drummond (Por via NJ)
5. Barnes (Tor)
I would love to have the draft playout like that leaving us to choose from Barnes & Lamb. I willing to say Barnes at 5 is a steal and will have a better 1st contract production with us than 4 guys drafted above him.
DreamTeam09 wrote:nbadraft.net
Has updated its draft order & has us taking Barnes at 5.
1. Davis (Cha)
2. MKG (Was)
3. TRob (No)
4. Drummond (Por via NJ)
5. Barnes (Tor)
ATLTimekeeper wrote:I'm skeptical that there's any veracity to that Washington-Beal rumour. Seems high for Beal and seems out of character of how Grunfeld has drafted in the past.
daner01 wrote:Drummond has not impressed me at all. I'd much rather Robinson or Sullinger over him any day. Both Sullinger and Robinson have that heart and hustle factor which you cannot teach.
Everytime I see Drummond I think selfish; aka T-mac, aka Vince Carter, D. Cousins, the list goes on.
JamesNaismith wrote:DreamTeam09 wrote:nbadraft.net
Has updated its draft order & has us taking Barnes at 5.
1. Davis (Cha)
2. MKG (Was)
3. TRob (No)
4. Drummond (Por via NJ)
5. Barnes (Tor)
Seems like a realistic order although there has been talk that WAS would take Beal 2nd overall. I think at this present moment (assuming the order remains the same) until the combine buzz gets going:
1. Davis (CHA)
2. Beal (WAS)
3. MKG (NOH)
4. Drummond (POR)
5. Barnes (TOR)
6. TRob (SAC)
7. Sullinger (DET)
8. Lamb (CLE)
9. Lillard (UTAH)
10. PJones (MIL)
11. Rivers (POR)
12. Henson (NOH)
13. Marshall (UTAH)
14. Moultrie (PHX)
15. Leonard (HOU)
spade57 wrote:daner01 wrote:Drummond has not impressed me at all. I'd much rather Robinson or Sullinger over him any day. Both Sullinger and Robinson have that heart and hustle factor which you cannot teach.
Everytime I see Drummond I think selfish; aka T-mac, aka Vince Carter, D. Cousins, the list goes on.
lol, I'd love to have cousins on the raptors. And Drummond selfish? If anything to passive.
JamesNaismith wrote:DreamTeam09 wrote:nbadraft.net
Has updated its draft order & has us taking Barnes at 5.
1. Davis (Cha)
2. MKG (Was)
3. TRob (No)
4. Drummond (Por via NJ)
5. Barnes (Tor)
Seems like a realistic order although there has been talk that WAS would take Beal 2nd overall. I think at this present moment (assuming the order remains the same) until the combine buzz gets going:
1. Davis (CHA)
2. Beal (WAS)
3. MKG (NOH)
4. Drummond (POR)
5. Barnes (TOR)
6. TRob (SAC)
7. Sullinger (DET)
8. Lamb (CLE)
9. Lillard (UTAH)
10. PJones (MIL)
11. Rivers (POR)
12. Henson (NOH)
13. Marshall (UTAH)
14. Moultrie (PHX)
15. Leonard (HOU)
daner01 wrote:spade57 wrote:daner01 wrote:Drummond has not impressed me at all. I'd much rather Robinson or Sullinger over him any day. Both Sullinger and Robinson have that heart and hustle factor which you cannot teach.
Everytime I see Drummond I think selfish; aka T-mac, aka Vince Carter, D. Cousins, the list goes on.
lol, I'd love to have cousins on the raptors. And Drummond selfish? If anything to passive.
Cousin's is a headcase. Talented yes, but just way too immature.
Drummond IS selfish. Any player not willing to show up on many given nights for his team is selfish and lazy and can GTFO.
tdotrep2 wrote:Where do people get that drummond has attitude problems, the kid gave away his scholarship to a friend so he could go to uconn as well, and there he hasn't said anything bad or shown in any way that he is a t-mac vc cousins type person. If I am mistaken please show me the evidence.