Amare Has Bulging Disc, Out 2-4 Weeks, Taking Epidural

makeitstop · Post #441 » by **makeitstop** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:45 pm

keyindabox wrote:How long until we find out more specific information on his injury?

Don't know. All this silence is starting to bug me, though.

iHeartKNicks · Post #442 » by **iHeartKNicks** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:03 pm

makeitstop wrote:
keyindabox wrote:How long until we find out more specific information on his injury?

Don't know. All this silence is starting to bug me, though.

His back is starting to worry me. Isn't this the same injury that kept him out of the playoffs last year?
We need to start looking for an insurance PF that can provide some offense.

Post #443 » by **GONYK** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:04 pm

iHeartKNicks wrote:
makeitstop wrote:
keyindabox wrote:How long until we find out more specific information on his injury?

Don't know. All this silence is starting to bug me, though.

His back is starting to worry me. Isn't this the same injury that kept him out of the playoffs last year?
We need to start looking for an insurance PF that can provide some offense.

No. It's a different one.

Pharmcat · Post #444 » by **Pharmcat** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:26 pm

moocow007 wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:lets wait for the specialist to talk b4 making judgments

as for a depth replacement, is ike diogu still a FA? take a flyer on him

You have been shockingly reasonable and level-headed the last few weeks. What happened?

My guesses:

1. He got married.
2. He got divorced.
3. He won lotto.
4. He's getting some.
5. He just found out that he's the long lost heir to an aristocrasy in India.

Pharmcat · Post #445 » by **Pharmcat** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:26 pm

damedash09 wrote:
Alan Hahn ‏ @alanhahn
Didn't mention this to @RealMichaelKay, but another option is signing a vet. Rasheed Wallace anyone? He and Woodson have Pistons connection.

is he in game shape?

Knicksfan20 · Post #446 » by **Knicksfan20** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:22 am

if we sign sheed now he still has a shot to lead the knicks in technical fouls. gotta act quickly though.

Besart19 · Post #447 » by **Besart19** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:45 am

Amar'e out for 4 weeks!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1119 ... ack-injury

xsaberx · Post #448 » by **xsaberx** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:29 am

Besart19 wrote:Amar'e out for 4 weeks!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1119 ... ack-injury

this is not new news (it was reported at 11am today) - and it is not based on anything, just a guess

there has been no word since we've heard that amare was going to florida to see his specialist

mhi · Post #449 » by **mhi** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:32 am

xsaberx wrote:
Besart19 wrote:Amar'e out for 4 weeks!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1119 ... ack-injury

this is not new news (it was reported at 11am today) - and it is not based on anything, just a guess

there has been no word since we've heard that amare was going to florida to see his specialist

Four weeks is actually in a best case scenerio, but we do need more info.

ptsuperfly · Post #450 » by **ptsuperfly** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:36 am

Melo can play the 4 ... it just beats up his body more on the defensive end.

Man ... I said you guys should have amnestied Amare. I figured this would happen.

Hopefully it clears up with some rest and therapy. Big bodies jack up their discs. He needs a chiropractor 24/7, and massage, etc. Take over his life, and see if you can manage it. Acupuncture... snake oil... everything.

If not, surgery in the off-season, but he'll come back weaker - if he can at all.

You guys have enough depth... Run Melo at the 4 and JR at the 3, and your offense will go nuts.

Context · Post #451 » by **Context** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:02 am

Nothing official yet but here's excerpts from an article that will give us an idea of what to expect:

Dr. Wellington Hsu , a back specialist at Northwestern Memorial Hospital in Chicago who specializes in sports medicine, told The Post a common procedure to treat bulging disks for pro athletes is an epidural steroid injection in addition to oral anti-inflammatory medication.

Hsu, who has not treated Stoudemire, has done studies on NBA players with bulging disk injuries.

“They need him to withstand the rigors of a seven-game series,’’ Hsu said. “The more you wait, the likelihood is of getting stronger. He needs to demonstrate full range of motion of his back without any pain. The question they are probably asking is how long to shut activity down and work on his core, seeing they have the playoffs in mind and using that as a timetable.’’

Hsu said it is possible Stoudemire had a bulging disk for a while and that caused spasms and a muscle pull. Stoudemire said Saturday night after his back stiffened it was a separate injury from Boston. Hsu also said a bulging disk doesn’t go away unless surgery takes place.

“Surgery is a very reasonable option,’’ Hsu said of the offseason.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/d ... z1qO9MtGe6

Besart19 · Post #452 » by **Besart19** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:05 pm

Change the tread title/subject: Amar'e out 2-4 weeks!

Frank Isola ‏ @FisolaNYDN

Knicks announce Amar'e will be out 2 to 4 weeks after seeing his Miami doctor

DRK · Post #453 » by **DRK** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:06 pm

Amare Stoudemire has a similar/if-not-same injury that sidelined Robin Lopez for much on the 09'10 playoffs, and the latter part of the regular season.

With a bulging disc in his back, Lopez's mobility and athleticism was greatly affect not only when he came back that same season to play in the Western Conference Finals, but for almost the whol season after.

It seemed as if Lopez never recovered from that injury, which occured in 2010, until now, in 2012. For the whole of the 2010/2011 season, he was horrid. No vertical jump, no rebounding ability, and just plain lack of explosiveness. Once, even though he's 7 foot, he could not get high enough for a dunk. Lopez's terrible play was the reason for a Gortat trade.

Now, I cannot 100% guarantee that his terrible play was related to his back injury, but there really is no other explanation for it.

I hope this isnt the case for Amare Stoudemire, but it's a scenario that is very likely if the doctor's diagnosis is correct.

Smokey9782 · Post #454 » by **Smokey9782** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:06 pm

Besart19 wrote:Change the tread title/subject: Amar'e out 2-4 weeks!

Frank Isola ‏ @FisolaNYDN

Knicks announce Amar'e will be out 2 to 4 weeks after seeing his Miami doctor

That's the best news I've heard all day!

Let's go fellas, this ain't over yet.

god shammgod · Post #455 » by **god shammgod** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:16 pm

Frank Isola ‏ @FisolaNYDN

Knicks say "both doctors have agreed that he should undergo non-surgical treatment and rehabilitation, that will include an epidural."

BeagleBoss · Post #456 » by **BeagleBoss** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:22 pm

I'm still pessimistic about this. I'd be very surprised if Stat is back in 2 weeks.

god shammgod · Post #457 » by **god shammgod** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:31 pm

BeagleBoss wrote:I'm still pessimistic about this. I'd be very surprised if Stat is back in 2 weeks.

they're saying 2-4 weeks. so he'll be back for the playoffs, that's what's important.

Post #458 » by **duetta** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:48 pm

DRK wrote:Amare Stoudemire has a similar/if-not-same injury that sidelined Robin Lopez for much on the 09'10 playoffs, and the latter part of the regular season.

With a bulging disc in his back, Lopez's mobility and athleticism was greatly affect not only when he came back that same season to play in the Western Conference Finals, but for almost the whol season after.

It seemed as if Lopez never recovered from that injury, which occured in 2010, until now, in 2012. For the whole of the 2010/2011 season, he was horrid. No vertical jump, no rebounding ability, and just plain lack of explosiveness. Once, even though he's 7 foot, he could not get high enough for a dunk. Lopez's terrible play was the reason for a Gortat trade.

Now, I cannot 100% guarantee that his terrible play was related to his back injury, but there really is no other explanation for it.

I hope this isnt the case for Amare Stoudemire, but it's a scenario that is very likely if the doctor's diagnosis is correct.

Thank you for your perspective. Even after Gallo's surgery, it took him the better part of two seasons to regain his athleticism.

Lehman · Post #459 » by **Lehman** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:50 pm

Besart19 wrote:Change the tread title/subject: Amar'e out 2-4 weeks!

Frank Isola ‏ @FisolaNYDN

Knicks announce Amar'e will be out 2 to 4 weeks after seeing his Miami doctor

I sincerely doubt he'll be effective in 2-4 weeks. It's great news on paper, but I'm afraid we'll be getting a stat with absolutely no lift or explosion.

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #460 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:54 pm

The 2-4 week estimate is great but I really hope they aren't trying to rush him back. Recall games three and four of the playoffs last year when Amare gutted it out but just could not move on the court and was much more of a liability than an asset. I hope the doctors--and the team--understand that Amare is a warrior and will play through pain but it's better for the team and him to ensure he's back to a point where he can be effective before getting back out onto the court.