VGOSWAMI wrote:The Real Dalic wrote:VGOSWAMI wrote:1. Pass first, but does it set teammates up for easy shots? That's the key. Do we have a guy on our team that can break a D down and get his own shot or one for a teammate.
2. I'm not convinced Liggins, Von, and Ish are going to get into the teeth of great defenses like the Heat or Bulls.
3. Maybe
4. Here's the big one and the core of the argument. Stan won't bench Hedo, Ryan, or Jameer. He knows in order for us to have a chance with this roster, those players have to play well. I get your frustration with the 3 point chucking. Trust me, I understand as much as the next guy. But, I do think that with this roster, it gives us the only chance to compete. Stan isn't going to play players he doesn't trust (youth/new guys like Von, Liggins, Ish). I do believe they should get more burn in the 2nd unit, but I don't believe their efforts make us that much better.
I don't think Stan is completely hands free here. If I was him I'd bench JRich and start JJ, and play Ish over Duhon. And perhaps even bench Hedo for Q. I think that promotes the best diversity offensively between the two lineups. We get a better wing defender in Q and a better shooter in JJ in the SL, and we get a facilitator in the 2nd unit in Hedo.
But again, I'll agree to disagree. I don't think Stan is the real issue with this team and the horrible losses. I expect nothing more or less from objectively looking at the roster. We'll have great games where we blow opponents out, and we'll have terrible ones where we get run out of the gym.
Yep, agree to disagree. thank you for keeping it civil BTW.

Likewise, Dalic

Both of you guys are right honestly. Dalic, we all want to see something different because it always seems when we lose, it is the same way every time. However this roster is not balanced at all and Stan is trying to make "fresh lemonade" from past due lemons. I understand that his rotations are frustrating, but if our main eight guys aren't playing well then we don't have a chance to begin with. While I love Ish, Liggins, and Wafer; it is really hard to see that they would make an immediate contribution due to them being unproven in the NBA right now.
I will agree with you on that these guys should have a chance in the rotation, especially when the main guys in the rotation are not playing well (example- tonight's game). The main frustration should be directed at Otis, then I would direct it at the players on the court. The one thing that us fans should never have to question is the effort each and every night. I mean we make the simplest basketball plays look like an adventure out there.